[Bug 14770] New: No textures on some video card/computer combinations [Star Wars: Knights Of The Old Republic]
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14770
Summary: No textures on some video card/computer combinations [Star Wars: Knights Of The Old Republic] Product: Wine Version: 1.0.0 Platform: PC OS/Version: Linux Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: major Priority: P2 Component: directx-d3d AssignedTo: wine-bugs@winehq.org ReportedBy: winehq@gringer.dis.org.nz
Created an attachment (id=15289) --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=15289) Screenshot from Chris on wine 1.0.0
On some systems, the starting screen (and, for what it's worth, in-game screens) doesn't have any textures / colours on the models. A screenshot (provided by Chris in the KOTOR discussion pages on appdb) is attached that demonstrates this.
This issue is present on systems with the following specifications: * Pentium III with an Nvidia Riva TNT2 M64 card * ~1.8GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 2 GB RAM, and an Intel 945G (GMA)
This issue is *not* present on systems with the following specifications: * HP with integrated graphics * ~1.6GHz Pentium 4, 256MB RAM, Nvidia FX5600
This was observed by me previously, but I put it down to my use of a computer that wasn't good enough to be able to run 3D games under wine. Recent comments in the discussion for this program have indicated that this is also an issue on more recent systems that should be able to run the program properly.
As seen in the discussion for SW:KOTOR: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=2712#Commen... http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=2712#Commen... http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=4124#Commen...
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--- Comment #1 from Austin English austinenglish@gmail.com 2008-08-05 17:13:29 --- Sounds like an Intel driver bug...
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--- Comment #2 from David Hall (gringer) winehq@gringer.dis.org.nz 2008-08-05 18:48:16 --- Created an attachment (id=15310) --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=15310) What it should look like (on NV31 [GeForce FX 5600])
Here's what it should look like. This is on one of the computers I use, a Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1.80GHz with NV31 [GeForce FX 5600] graphics card.
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Lars Zimmermann spam@lars-zimmermann.net changed:
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--- Comment #3 from Lars Zimmermann spam@lars-zimmermann.net 2008-09-13 12:32:23 --- I am having the exact same problem on my eee pc 901 running Ubuntu Hardy. I am using an intel driver and tried the Wine stable 1.0 und the 1.14 beta.
Same issue with KotOR 2.
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Lei Zhang thestig@google.com changed:
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--- Comment #4 from Lei Zhang thestig@google.com 2008-09-16 11:10:36 --- Confirming then
Severity is not major
Can you try the latest unstable intel drivers and see if they help? http://www.intellinuxgraphics.org/download.html
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Armin ajlh@gmx.de changed:
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--- Comment #5 from Armin ajlh@gmx.de 2008-09-17 08:12:11 --- I also have this problem. My system is a AMD Sempron 2000+ with an ATI RV280 (Radeon 9800) adapter. I've been using game version 1.03 and wine-1.1.4. I'm using the free radeon module, as the commercial drivers don't work with this specific card yet. I thought it might be related to the video ram size not being detected correctly, but I think I fixed this X-server issue and there should be plenty of video ram available now (128 MB). I also tried running the game in a guaranteed-3d-free-fvwm2 with no improvement.
judging from "swkotor-troubleshooting.rtf", the game never ran well with ATI cards, although I got it running on the same system under windows 2000 and fairly old catalyst drivers with no problems at all.
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firefromwithin@gmail.com changed:
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--- Comment #6 from firefromwithin@gmail.com 2008-11-04 05:08:23 --- I also have this problem. I have an Intel p4 1.8Ghz, with a Radeon 9250, using the free module. I've had this problem with both 1.0 and 1.03 on ubuntu hardy, wine 0.95/0.96 and ubuntu intrepid, wine 1.1.7 I also have this problem with Kotor 2: Sith Lords. (I believe they use the same game engine).
Apart form the texture problem, and the mouse issue it runs quite well for me, though I haven't played far into it.
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--- Comment #7 from Austin English austinenglish@gmail.com 2009-05-06 05:38:55 --- Is this still an issue in current (1.1.20 or newer) wine?
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David Eccles (gringer) winehq@gringer.org changed:
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--- Comment #8 from David Eccles (gringer) winehq@gringer.org 2009-05-11 02:11:33 --- Yes, still an issue. I get this with an ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO], with open source 3D drivers.
Thinking through what I've seen of braid screenshots with similar black/white colours on startup, could this be due to cards not supporting shader model 2? I know this is the case for many Intel integrated cards.
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marquito zattooist@cust.in changed:
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--- Comment #9 from marquito zattooist@cust.in 2009-06-18 14:18:12 --- Confirmed for -Radeon 9800Pro(RV350) -Ubunutu Jaunty(So impossible to try with fglrx) -Wine 1.1.18
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--- Comment #10 from marquito zattooist@cust.in 2009-06-18 14:21:30 --- (In reply to comment #9)
Confirmed for -Radeon 9800Pro(RV350) -Ubunutu Jaunty(So impossible to try with fglrx) -Wine 1.1.18
Additional Info:
E17-Desktop
Even configuring Wine to to virtual Screen ans editing the swkotor.ini file(Fullscreen=0) it pops up in Fullscreen.
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Santiago santiagozky@gmail.com changed:
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--- Comment #11 from Santiago santiagozky@gmail.com 2009-12-13 21:30:05 --- I can confirm the problem running the steam version with:
-Ubuntu 9.10 up to date -ATI Technologies Inc RS482 [Radeon Xpress 200M] (radeon free driver) -2.6.31-16-generic #53-Ubuntu SMP -wine-1.1.34
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--- Comment #12 from David Eccles (gringer) winehq@gringer.org 2009-12-25 20:51:26 --- Still a bug on wine-1.1.35, observed using an ATI Radeon 9200 PRO, radeon free driver, as before.
This can't be [just] an Intel bug, because it is not restricted to Intel cards.
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madx winehq.org_a010b4ec298e6d00@madx.org changed:
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--- Comment #13 from madx winehq.org_a010b4ec298e6d00@madx.org 2010-02-06 08:34:55 --- I found a workaround for this problem, and probably the real source if it. It seems the free intel and ati drivers do not support hardware S3 texture compression (S3TC) but there is a software fallback. Simply use the tool driconf to force S3TC to be enabled and the game will have textures. Works for my ati X850XT and my intel 4500MHD (both with free drivers and wine 1.1.37)
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Jeff Zaroyko jeffz@jeffz.name changed:
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--- Comment #14 from Jeff Zaroyko jeffz@jeffz.name 2010-02-06 18:39:00 --- (In reply to comment #13)
I found a workaround for this problem, and probably the real source if it. It seems the free intel and ati drivers do not support hardware S3 texture compression (S3TC) but there is a software fallback. Simply use the tool driconf to force S3TC to be enabled and the game will have textures. Works for my ati X850XT and my intel 4500MHD (both with free drivers and wine 1.1.37)
Sounds like this is the issue, which makes the bug report invalid due to lack of driver support/system configuration issue.
Resolving invalid.
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Jeff Zaroyko jeffz@jeffz.name changed:
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--- Comment #15 from Jeff Zaroyko jeffz@jeffz.name 2010-02-06 18:39:14 --- Closing invalid.
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Silent-Hunter cheery314@hotmail.com changed:
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--- Comment #16 from Silent-Hunter cheery314@hotmail.com 2010-11-08 19:38:31 CST --- (In reply to comment #15)
Closing invalid.
It still doesn't work for me, even after trying the above workaround.
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--- Comment #17 from Silent-Hunter cheery314@hotmail.com 2010-11-08 23:56:29 CST --- (In reply to comment #15)
Closing invalid.
I know this bug is closed, but can anyone tell me anything about how to fix this myself?
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--- Comment #18 from David Eccles (gringer) winehq@gringer.org 2010-11-09 03:41:02 CST --- You're pretty much stuck unless you can get a better video card driver, or a better video card. It doesn't look like any wine code will appear that is likely to do software emulation things that should be done in the drivers.
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--- Comment #19 from firefromwithin@gmail.com 2010-11-09 03:44:56 CST --- I think there is a 3rd party driver patch for s3 texters that MAY fix this. I'm not sure though.
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