[Bug 15157] New: Thief the dark project crashes on startup.

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15157

Summary: Thief the dark project crashes on startup.
           Product: Wine
           Version: 1.1.3
          Platform: PC
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P1
         Component: -unknown
        AssignedTo: [e-mail]
        ReportedBy: [e-mail]

Created an attachment (id=15882)
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"wine C:\thief\thief.exe"

I installed the game well (i had to change to windows 98 mode), but as soon as
i try to run it from the command line, it opens, or seems to open very briefly
then immediately crashes. i attached the stuff from the command line after i
entered the command "wine C:\thief\thief.exe". I doubt it's a hardware
problem, because it used to run when i used windows.

[Bug 15157] Thief the dark project crashes on startup.

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--- Comment #1 from Alexander Dorofeyev   2008-09-06 19:38:58 ---
There was a bug in 1.1.3 that affected many games including System Shock 2
(also based on Dark Engine), the bug is fixed in 1.1.4. So you should retest
with 1.1.4 (or git).

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--- Comment #2 from Kae Verens   2008-11-28 11:21:36 ---
I'm having trouble starting it as well. I'll add an attachment detail my own
attempt

Wine 1.1.7 in Fedora 10
wine-1.1.7-1.fc10.i386

[Bug 15157] Thief the dark project crashes on startup.

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--- Comment #3 from Kae Verens   2008-11-28 11:26:51 ---
Created an attachment (id=17506)
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backtrace from "wine THIEF.EXE"

[Bug 15157] Thief the dark project crashes on startup.

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--- Comment #4 from Kae Verens   2008-11-28 11:29:36 ---
Created an attachment (id=17507)
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backtrace for "schedtool -a 0x2 -e wine THIEF.EXE"

Thief doesn't like multi-processor systems, so I used "schedtool -a 0x2 -e wine
THIEF.EXE" this time.

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--- Comment #5 from cxs   2009-01-02 06:43:21 ---
*** This bug has been confirmed by popular vote. ***

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--- Comment #6 from Jeff Zaroyko   2009-01-02 07:11:33 ---
*** Bug 16720 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

[Bug 15157] Thief the dark project crashes on startup.

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--- Comment #7 from Alexander Dorofeyev   2009-01-06 13:20:46 ---
I tried repeatedly, but cannot reproduce this. Just tested again in wine
1.1.11. Thief Gold and System Shock 2, both start up ok and work. Looks like
sound is broken in this version, both in cutscenes and the rest of the game,
but this appears to be a separate and unrelated regression.

Please make sure to retest with a blank newly created Wine prefix, all default
settings. Also ensure that indeo codecs do get fully and properly installed
during the game setup. One of known crashes of these games is when codecs do
not get installed. Simply saying yes to install codecs may not be enough as the
codec setup included on game CDs doesn't work very stable in Wine and often
crashes silently, without actually completing the job. Watch out for exception
or crash messages in the console during setup. If that's the problem, it can be
fixed by downloading a more modern Intel Indeo codec package (available in lots
of places on the net), which is less bug-prone.

[Bug 15157] Thief the dark project crashes on startup.

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--- Comment #8 from Christos Sotiriou   2009-01-07 07:34:37 ---
(In reply to comment #7)

It doesn't work on Wine 1.1.9@Fedora 10. Could it also be the Wine version?
> I tried repeatedly, but cannot reproduce this. Just tested again in wine
> 1.1.11. Thief Gold and System Shock 2, both start up ok and work. Looks like
> sound is broken in this version, both in cutscenes and the rest of the game,
> but this appears to be a separate and unrelated regression.

With prior version of the game, I never installed the Intel Indeo codecs and
still everything worked fine...

Could you provide us with a suitable link for *Wine-compatible* Intel Indeo
codecs, so we can confirm that it is/or is not a codec issue?

Thanks.
> Please make sure to retest with a blank newly created Wine prefix, all default
> settings. Also ensure that indeo codecs do get fully and properly installed
> during the game setup. One of known crashes of these games is when codecs do
> not get installed. Simply saying yes to install codecs may not be enough as the
> codec setup included on game CDs doesn't work very stable in Wine and often
> crashes silently, without actually completing the job. Watch out for exception
> or crash messages in the console during setup. If that's the problem, it can be
> fixed by downloading a more modern Intel Indeo codec package (available in lots
> of places on the net), which is less bug-prone.

[Bug 15157] Thief the dark project crashes on startup.

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--- Comment #9 from Christos Sotiriou   2009-01-07 08:58:19 ---
(In reply to comment #8)

I downloaded Intel Indeo Codecs from:

http://www.codec-archiv.de/win/intel/indeo511.exe

Installed them and I still get the same issue, with wine 1.1.9 under Fedora 10.

[Bug 15157] Thief the dark project crashes on startup.

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--- Comment #10 from Alexander Dorofeyev   2009-01-08 14:52:58 ---
(In reply to comment #8)
> With prior version of the game, I never installed the Intel Indeo codecs and
> still everything worked fine...

Video cutscenes never worked for all I know, but in some earlier versions they
were simply always skipped due to lack of some features in few Wine dlls.
Changes around 1.03 - 1.04 were supposed to make cutscenes in Thief and System
Shock 2 games and, at least on my end, they did. It seems to work for me with
1.08 and 1.09.

For Thief I used Thief Gold + a copy protection "fix". Do you use gold edition
or original?

Did you try new wine prefix? It's good because it guarantees clean, default
registry and default settings and eliminates possibility of some older version
junk in registry causing trouble.

Also if you can, attach a +quartz,+devenum log please and check whether using
native (Windows) quartz.dll helps.

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--- Comment #11 from Christos Sotiriou   2009-01-11 08:49:07 ---
Created an attachment (id=18644)
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DUMP file

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--- Comment #12 from Christos Sotiriou   2009-01-11 08:51:23 ---
(In reply to comment #11)
> Created an attachment (id=18644)

--> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=18644) [details]
> DUMP file

It seems that it cut my message.

This is a DUMP created using:

WINEDDEBUG="all+quartz,all+devenum" wine .wine/drive_c/Games/ThiefG/THIEF.EXE
> & DUMP

However, I don't see anything interesting...

I used ThiefG with the copy protection "fix". My .wine is new as I did a clean
install.

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--- Comment #13 from Christos Sotiriou   2009-01-11 10:01:40 ---
(In reply to comment #12)
>

Ok, I compiled from scratch Wine 1.1.12, did not install it locally, run it
from the Make location and got the following output (this may help us
understand the source of the error) on the same .wine prefix:

fixme:d3d:IWineD3DImpl_FillGLCaps OpenGL implementation supports 32 vertex
samplers and 32 total samplers
fixme:d3d:IWineD3DImpl_FillGLCaps Expected vertex samplers + MAX_TEXTURES(=8) >
combined_samplers
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x32f7b8,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:ddraw:VGA_ioport_out Unsupported index, VGA crt controller register
0x3b4/0x3d4: 0x0e (value 0x00)
fixme:ddraw:VGA_ioport_out Unsupported index, VGA crt controller register
0x3b4/0x3d4: 0x0f (value 0x00)
fixme:ddraw:VGA_ioport_out Unsupported index, VGA crt controller register
0x3b4/0x3d4: 0x0e (value 0x00)
fixme:ddraw:VGA_ioport_out Unsupported index, VGA crt controller register
0x3b4/0x3d4: 0x0f (value 0x00)
fixme:ddraw:VGA_ioport_out Unsupported index, VGA crt controller register
0x3b4/0x3d4: 0x0e (value 0x00)
fixme:ddraw:VGA_ioport_out Unsupported index, VGA crt controller register
0x3b4/0x3d4: 0x0f (value 0x00)
fixme:x11drv:X11DRV_desktop_SetCurrentMode Cannot change screen BPP from 32 to
16
wine: Unhandled page fault on read access to 0x00000000 at address 0x5203fa
(thread 0009), starting debugger...
wineserver crashed, please enable coredumps (ulimit -c unlimited) and restart.

Any ideas?

Thanks!

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--- Comment #14 from Alexander Dorofeyev   2009-01-11 11:42:13 ---
I think correct syntax would be

WINEDEBUG=+quartz,+devenum wine THIEF.EXE &>log

It probably wasn't showing anything because it didn't understand all+quartz. I
don't remember what the correct form for that was, but it isn't needed anyway,
because simply +quartz will show everything as is.

crash at 0x5203fa (with 1.1.12) - the address looks like a crash that happens
when you run thief from outside of it's game directory (in other words, current
working directory =/= Thief install directory). I think Thief always required
cd to its directory to run.

[Bug 15157] Thief the dark project crashes on startup.

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--- Comment #15 from Christos Sotiriou   2009-01-11 12:44:30 ---
Created an attachment (id=18647)
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WINEDEBUG=+quartz,+devenum wine THIEF.EXE &>~/log

WINEDEBUG=+quartz,+devenum wine THIEF.EXE &>~/log

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--- Comment #16 from Christos Sotiriou   2009-01-11 12:46:02 ---
(In reply to comment #14)
> I think correct syntax would be
>
> WINEDEBUG=+quartz,+devenum wine THIEF.EXE &>log
>
> It probably wasn't showing anything because it didn't understand all+quartz. I
> don't remember what the correct form for that was, but it isn't needed anyway,
> because simply +quartz will show everything as is.

Ok, did it correctly, see LOG Attachment... :) sorry about that
> crash at 0x5203fa (with 1.1.12) - the address looks like a crash that happens
> when you run thief from outside of it's game directory (in other words, current
> working directory =/= Thief install directory). I think Thief always required
> cd to its directory to run.

I tried that to no avail. wineserver actually hangs and stays in memory:

28998  0.0  0.1 3698444 2940 ?        Sl   20:40   0:00
C:\windows\system32\winedevice.exe MountMgr

Could this be a hint?

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--- Comment #17 from Alexander Dorofeyev   2009-01-11 13:37:12 ---
(In reply to comment #16)
> I tried that to no avail. wineserver actually hangs and stays in memory:
>
> 28998  0.0  0.1 3698444 2940 ?        Sl   20:40   0:00
> C:\windows\system32\winedevice.exe MountMgr
>
> Could this be a hint?

If cd to thief directory doesn't help - then no idea. Maybe try killing all
wine-related processes and then trying or test some other games, to check if
anything works at all.

Regarding the logs - they do not show presense of the required Indeo codecs. So
I think the game's behavior is correct: if there is no Indeo decompressor the
game will also crash under Windows, I believe. If I look in a similar +quartz
log on my machine, there are many lines like:

trace:quartz:FilterMapper2_EnumMatchingFilters Considering filter L"Indeo\00ae
video 5.06 Decompression Filter"

But in your log I don't see any mention of Indeo at all. Looks like it didn't
install or wasn't properly registered in the system. That must be the problem.
I'll try to test that codec you posted link to, maybe it doesn't work in Wine.

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--- Comment #18 from Austin English   2009-01-11 13:57:17 ---
Upgrade to git, 1.1.12 was broken.

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--- Comment #19 from Alexander Dorofeyev   2009-01-11 14:06:06 ---
I checked
http://www.codec-archiv.de/win/intel/indeo511.exe
Indeed it doesn't properly register codecs. According to logs, it doesn't even
appear to be trying.
The one I have is more like 2 Mb (as opposed to ~300kb in the above one) and
IIRC it was downloaded from http://www.free-codecs.com/
I don't know how safe all these sites are, though. The nonworking one made me
think, how many of these are possibly viruses or troyans? No idea if
www.free-codecs.com is safe.

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--- Comment #20 from Christos Sotiriou   2009-01-17 07:32:41 ---
After updating to wine 1.1.12, from the Fedora repository, and reinstalling the
game, including the Codecs, the problem seems fixed, i.e. the game runs fine.

Only sound doesn't work for most of the game, but this is a separate problem.
Any ideas on sound at all?

Thanks!

[Bug 15157] Thief the dark project crashes on startup.

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--- Comment #21 from Christos Sotiriou   2009-01-17 07:35:59 ---
(In reply to comment #20)
> After updating to wine 1.1.12, from the Fedora repository, and reinstalling the
> game, including the Codecs, the problem seems fixed, i.e. the game runs fine.
>
> Only sound doesn't work for most of the game, but this is a separate problem.
> Any ideas on sound at all?
>
> Thanks!

Actually, sound works by using the OSS emulation mode (selecting it using
winecfg). I guess pulseaudio might be the issue.

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--- Comment #22 from Alexander Dorofeyev   2009-01-17 14:12:26 ---
Well the conclusion then is that there probably was/is no Wine bug with the
game. Kae Verens's backtrace appears to be the same crash due to lack of Indeo
codec. Not sure about the very first reporter - it seems to be something
different, but looks a bit like the problem when running THIEF.exe from outside
the game install directory. Unfortunately, he isn't following up on this and
his last report was quite a while ago.

To Michael G: unless you can retest this and provide logs to confirm this is
not the codec thingy or some other known problem like starting exe from outside
the game directory, this will have to be closed as INVALID or ABANDONED. The
game seems to run well currently.

To Christos Sotiriou: sound works for me in 1.1.12 FWIW. Problems I previously
noticed were my own screw-up: I was actually using git wine and that was IIRC
something in between 1.1.12 and 1.1.13. Now sounds seem to work in git trunk as
well, must have been some work in between those releases that temporarily broke
the sound. So for you it could indeed be some pulseaudio issues, I think.

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--- Comment #23 from Kae Verens   2009-01-17 14:35:25 ---
I think this was a Wine bug, or at the least, a packaging bug. I tried last
week and it did not work for me. Then today, after Christos announced his
success, I upgraded my wine to 1.1.12, and it ran immediately.

I upgrade very frequently, so the last installed version I had would have been
the previous latest Fedora, probably 1.1.11.

I did replace the codec as suggested in some posts here, but that was previous
to last week.

Works for me now. I needed to do a few additional things:
1. use virtual desktop mode instead of allowing xrandr. I have a wide-screen
laptop, and 640x480 (default mode for Thief) resizes to 640x400 because of some
xrandr thing I don't get. This cuts out some important buttons from being seen
or clicked.
2. make sure to run the game on only 1 CPU. this is true of the other Thief
games as well. I used "schedtool -a 0x2 -e wine THIEF.EXE" as my command to
start the game.

Works perfectly - video, sound, smooth graphics.

Thanks guys!

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--- Comment #24 from Christos Sotiriou   2009-01-18 11:22:36 ---
> Works perfectly - video, sound, smooth graphics.

I guess we can close this bug at this point :)

One last thing I want to add is that before updating my machine completely,
i.e. after installing wine and not updating alsa and pulseaudio, which I think
made the difference, I experienced hardware lock up at various parts during the
game, particularly during the key configuration.

What I mean by hardware lockup is a complete halt/freeze of the machine,
including the linux kernel. I had to reset using the soft reset button.

Any idea where this stems from?

Thank you.

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--- Comment #25 from Vitaliy Margolen   2009-01-18 13:48:10 ---
Reported fixed

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--- Comment #26 from Vitaliy Margolen   2009-01-18 13:48:23 ---
Closing bugs fixed in wine-1.1.13