http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13685
Summary: Anarchy Online is very slow in certain areas (< 3fps or 0) Product: Wine Version: CVS/GIT Platform: PC OS/Version: Linux Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: blocker Priority: P2 Component: -unknown AssignedTo: wine-bugs@winehq.org ReportedBy: krause.marcel@gmx.net
It's something that's bugging me for a good while, and is also being mentioned in the AppDB article for the game. As I said there it can be "worked around" by using the commercial cedega software, which has other minor problems too, but nothing compared to the slowness under wine.
1. download the free client using bittorrent: http://torrent.funcom.com/torrents/AnarchyOnline_17.6.1_EP0.exe.torrent 2. register a free account: http://register.funcom.com/ 3. Start the game, talk to the neutral recruiter at the island and take the Wompah (teleporter) to Borealis, which will leave you in complete graphical laggyness.
You can also notice the laggyness at the Unicorn Outpost (needs paid expansion content), playershops in the guild cities (paid content too), and a few more places. All of these places are frequently used by the players and visiting them is a major pain of course, but as they're the central places in game, you can't really get around on the long run.
It's not my system causing the lag though, as it works fine with the cedega software.
Specs are: Athlon X2 5000+ 2Gb Ram GeForce 8600GT@256MB 400GB WD harddisk 16MBit/s internet connection
Regards, Marcel Krause
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Marcel Krause krause.marcel@gmx.net changed:
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Lei Zhang thestig@google.com changed:
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--- Comment #1 from Lei Zhang thestig@google.com 2008-06-05 00:51:40 --- what driver version?
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--- Comment #2 from Marcel Krause krause.marcel@gmx.net 2008-06-06 06:02:54 --- (In reply to comment #1)
what driver version?
NVIDIA 173.14.05 (latest), but I've had that behaviour with pretty much any driver before that. I'm using the 'fbo' backend of wine.
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Ben Hodgetts (Enverex) ben@atomnet.co.uk changed:
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--- Comment #3 from Austin English austinenglish@gmail.com 2008-12-26 17:43:37 --- Is this still an issue in current (1.1.11 or newer) wine?
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Luke Bratch l_bratch@yahoo.co.uk changed:
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--- Comment #4 from Luke Bratch l_bratch@yahoo.co.uk 2008-12-27 18:00:51 --- Yes, this is still present. Certain areas are simply very laggy, but also every so often somewhere that is usually un-laggy will slow right down. In this case, restarting it will always fix the problem.
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Austin English austinenglish@gmail.com changed:
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--- Comment #5 from Austin English austinenglish@gmail.com 2009-01-20 02:39:09 --- Removing deprecated CVS/GIT version tag. Please retest in current git. If the bug is still present in today's wine, but was not present in some earlier version of wine, please update version field to earliest known version of wine that had the bug. Thanks!
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--- Comment #6 from Luke Bratch l_bratch@yahoo.co.uk 2009-01-30 09:21:17 --- Yes this is still present, same comments as before.
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--- Comment #7 from Luke Bratch l_bratch@yahoo.co.uk 2010-01-04 16:59:52 --- This seems to be completely avoided by selecting the Wine D3D7 T&L HAL display device in the Anarchy Online settings. With that device selected I get very good performance everywhere.
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Laryllan laryllan@web.de changed:
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--- Comment #8 from Laryllan laryllan@web.de 2011-05-01 10:54:56 CDT --- The issue is back for me since I upgraded my graphics card to an Gefore 560 Ti. Borealis lags like hell and there seems to be nothing I can do about it.
It worked flawlessly in Cedega though...
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Bug 13685 depends on bug 11486, which changed state.
Bug 11486 Summary: Anarchy Online does not patch http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11486
What |Old Value |New Value ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |FIXED
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--- Comment #9 from Luke Bratch l_bratch@yahoo.co.uk 2011-06-25 05:11:07 CDT --- (In reply to comment #7)
This seems to be completely avoided by selecting the Wine D3D7 T&L HAL display device in the Anarchy Online settings. With that device selected I get very good performance everywhere.
This is no longer the case. Performance is now awful in certain places (especially Borealis) no matter which display device is selected.
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--- Comment #10 from Laryllan laryllan@web.de 2011-06-25 16:16:39 CDT ---
This is no longer the case. Performance is now awful in certain places (especially Borealis) no matter which display device is selected.
Confirmed.
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joaopa jeremielapuree@yahoo.fr changed:
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--- Comment #11 from joaopa jeremielapuree@yahoo.fr 2011-08-27 01:35:30 CDT --- still a bug in current wine?
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--- Comment #12 from Laryllan laryllan@web.de 2011-08-27 02:54:08 CDT --- (In reply to comment #11)
still a bug in current wine?
Yes it is, but it's depending on your graphics card. Using a Nvidia GTX 460 Ti the problem is there. Going back to an older GTX 275 there are no slow areas any more.
I guess it has something to do with shaders and/or may be a driver problem. Maybe a developer can say more about this.
In both cases I used the binary Nvidia driver, version up from 275 to 280.13 on a 64bit system.
I will stay on the GTX 275 until this problem is resolved.
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malic malicorne@chez.com changed:
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--- Comment #13 from malic malicorne@chez.com 2011-10-21 14:36:57 CDT --- Confirmed here. Wine 1.3.30 + nvidia 285.05.09 on amd64 ubuntu 11.10
Area where slowdown are particularly noticeable : - tower shop (accessible to free players) - clan agency (accessible to free players) - city of Jobe (accessible w/ expansions) - player shops (accessible w/ expansions)
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--- Comment #14 from Laryllan laryllan@web.de 2011-11-06 04:23:43 CST --- Created attachment 37329 --> http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=37329 Wine3D Logs of a GTX 275 and GTX 470
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--- Comment #15 from Laryllan laryllan@web.de 2011-11-06 04:26:17 CST --- I did some tests with a GeForce GTX 275 (wich runs ok in Borealis) and a GeForce GTX 470 and attached the logfiles.
The only difference I can see is the OpenGL version used. Maybe someone can shed light on this...
Borealis is unplayable /w the GTX 470. I tested a GTX 560 Ti too, same result.
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--- Comment #16 from joaopa jeremielapuree@yahoo.fr 2012-11-03 15:33:16 CDT --- still a bug in current wine?
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--- Comment #17 from Laryllan laryllan@web.de 2012-11-04 13:07:23 CST --- Yes, the bug still exists. I'm on a GF 660 TI now.
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hanska2@luukku.com changed:
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--- Comment #18 from hanska2@luukku.com --- 2 years have passed. Still an issue?
And if so, please add an attachment of debug with recent wine (1.7 series).
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Drew liquidzoo@gmail.com changed:
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--- Comment #19 from Drew liquidzoo@gmail.com --- It is still an issue and I have confirmed with 2 completely different setups today that the issue does not exist (or at least is not as prevalent) in 1.5.31 (installed through PlayOnLinux as the .deb is no longer available in Mint 17's repos).
As soon as I can figure out how to run a debug trace for you, I will post one.
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--- Comment #20 from hanska2@luukku.com --- You shouldnt use playonlinux at all when you report bugs or attach debug logs...and also that version you used is really old now.
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--- Comment #21 from Drew liquidzoo@gmail.com --- (In reply to hanska2 from comment #20)
You shouldnt use playonlinux at all when you report bugs or attach debug logs...and also that version you used is really old now.
I'm not reporting the bug with playonlinux, I am saying that I was able to resolve this issue using it.
I would use normal wine (I know the version is old, but it's working where 1.6.x and 1.7.x exhibit this bug) if my distro had this version in their repos anymore. They have 1.6.x and 1.7.26.
The age of the wine version shouldn't have anything to do with this. If I found a version where this game is working well, then something in the newer versions has broken that (for this game). I don't know what, though.
I was asked, on the Anarchy Online forums, to provide this information. I will provide a log from wine-1.7.26 soon (this version was not installed via playonlinux, it was installed via apt-get install wine).
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--- Comment #22 from hanska2@luukku.com --- If something got broken with wine, then someone should do regression testing between the versions. That means compiling wine with different versions and trying if it works. And if it does the regression test shows what commit broke the thing.
http://wiki.winehq.org/RegressionTesting
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Ken Sharp imwellcushtymelike@gmail.com changed:
What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Keywords| |Abandoned? Version|unspecified |1.1.11 Severity|enhancement |trivial
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--- Comment #23 from Luke Bratch luke@bratch.co.uk --- The abandoned keyword was just added to this bug, but it is still present. I imagine there has been no activity as the situation hasn't changed.
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Nikolay Sivov bunglehead@gmail.com changed:
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--- Comment #24 from joaopa jeremielapuree@yahoo.fr --- Still a bug in current wine?
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--- Comment #25 from Laryllan laryllan@web.de --- It is playable with the new engine. But the overall performance is terrible.
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--- Comment #26 from super_man@post.com --- (In reply to Laryllan from comment #25)
It is playable with the new engine. But the overall performance is terrible.
The bug needs console output, there is few attachements but I dont know if those have any use.
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Maik Wagner maiktapwagner@aol.com changed:
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--- Comment #27 from Maik Wagner maiktapwagner@aol.com --- Well, I never played the neutral side in this game and never visited Borealis but as far as my two Clans-Soldiers are concerned I am perfectly happy with the performance of the game.
I am using the following chipset and apart from the issue that you can talk to gamemasters in game (Awesomium.dll crashes) the game works fine. I used to give it Platinum status but found out about the gamemastering issue later on. But graphics wise Anarchy Online works very well.
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--- Comment #28 from Maik Wagner maiktapwagner@aol.com --- Some further information: My Rendering Device is set to DirectDraw HAL - Wine D3D7 TL HAL with Low texture quality and 16 Bpb color depth, so settings are very low.
This is my graphics chipset: 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Kabini [Radeon HD 8330]
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--- Comment #29 from joaopa jeremielapuree@yahoo.fr --- Still a bug in current wine (3.11)?
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--- Comment #30 from joaopa jeremielapuree@yahoo.fr --- No news since more 2 years. No download available. Can an administrator close this bug as ABANDONED?
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--- Comment #31 from Luke Bratch luke@bratch.co.uk --- There is still a free download available [1] and AO is still very slow in certain areas. Borealis is still the easiest place to reproduce the issue, although it is much faster now than it used to be - this could just be because hardware got a lot faster in the last 10 years! On my current machine I get ~100 FPS in most places in AO but that halves to ~50 FPS in Borealis.
[1] http://update.anarchy-online.com/download/AO/AnarchyOnline.exe
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rjd 3246251196ryan@gmail.com changed:
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--- Comment #32 from rjd 3246251196ryan@gmail.com --- Anarchy Online is no longer slow in certain areas. Many years ago (before now, 2024) it used to be.
At least, for me: Nvidia 1050 TI.
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