[Bug 26144] New: Remove link to spam-infested Google Groups page from http://www.winehq.org/help
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26144
Summary: Remove link to spam-infested Google Groups page from http://www.winehq.org/help Product: WineHQ.org Version: unspecified Platform: x86 OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P2 Component: www-unknown AssignedTo: wine-bugs@winehq.org ReportedBy: dimesio@earthlink.net
The Forum section of http://www.winehq.org/help currently includes this sentence:
"An alternate way to access our forums is via the Google Groups page at comp.emulators.ms-windows.wine."
This is simply not true; the Google Groups page has nothing to do with our forum, and never has. While the group may at one time have been a legitimate site for Wine questions, at present it is almost entirely spam, much of it for porn. We really should not be directing users to it from our support page.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26144
Dan Kegel dank@kegel.com changed:
What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |dank@kegel.com
--- Comment #1 from Dan Kegel dank@kegel.com 2011-02-15 11:08:36 CST --- In the past, there was a bidirectional gateway between the wine-users mailing list and the newsgroup. The gateway has gone up and down over the years.
The newsgroup does seem pretty spammy, but there are still a few useful discussions going on there.
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--- Comment #2 from Dan Kegel dank@kegel.com 2011-02-15 11:29:09 CST --- Looks like the volume of spam is low, I was able to mark two months of it as abuse in about ten minutes (it's just four clicks and one keystroke per spam message). If more people did that, maybe we could keep it clear of spam.
Plus I investigated and answered one real user question there. It's not the hotbed the forum is, but it looks like there are still real users.
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--- Comment #3 from Rosanne DiMesio dimesio@earthlink.net 2011-02-15 15:24:15 CST --- (In reply to comment #2)
Looks like the volume of spam is low, I was able to mark two months of it as abuse in about ten minutes (it's just four clicks and one keystroke per spam message). If more people did that, maybe we could keep it clear of spam.
I don't know what you flagged or where, but the link on our Support page leads to http://groups.google.com/group/comp.emulators.ms-windows.wine and that is still full of the same spam that was there this morning when I filed this bug.
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--- Comment #4 from Juan Lang juan_lang@yahoo.com 2011-02-15 15:28:34 CST --- Confirming. My look turned up 1 legitimate post, all others spam in the first page.
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--- Comment #5 from Dan Kegel dank@kegel.com 2011-02-15 15:45:55 CST --- I was looking at the new interface, https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/comp.emulators.ms-windows...
If you look at the dates of each message, you'll see there's only about one spam message per day.
There seems to be about one real user message per week. It's very low traffic. I wouldn't be opposed to removing the link, given the low usage. (But I do have a soft spot in my heart for Usenet; it used to be the whole world.)
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André H. nerv@dawncrow.de changed:
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--- Comment #6 from André H. nerv@dawncrow.de 2011-02-16 12:15:16 CST --- We should close it or fix it... So which way to go?
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--- Comment #7 from Rosanne DiMesio dimesio@earthlink.net 2011-02-16 13:24:43 CST --- IMO, we should remove that link entirely. It is not connected to our forum in any way, and no one here is monitoring it either for spam or for the quality of advice being given out to legitimate posters. It does not warrant the "seal of approval" implied by linking to it from our support page.
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--- Comment #8 from Rosanne DiMesio dimesio@earthlink.net 2011-02-16 14:51:34 CST --- Just realized from reading bug 6167 that http://www.winehq.org/site/forums also has a section with a link to the Google group, incorrectly claiming that it is linked to the forum. That, too, should be removed, or at the very least, fixed.
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--- Comment #9 from André H. nerv@dawncrow.de 2011-02-26 09:03:04 CST --- patch sent
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André H. nerv@dawncrow.de changed:
What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |FIXED
--- Comment #10 from André H. nerv@dawncrow.de 2011-02-28 09:26:17 CST --- patch applied
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André H. nerv@dawncrow.de changed:
What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |CLOSED
--- Comment #11 from André H. nerv@dawncrow.de 2011-02-28 09:27:10 CST --- closing see bug 6167 for more information
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