[Bug 25256] New: Team Fortress 2 won't start

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25256

Summary: Team Fortress 2 won't start
           Product: Wine
           Version: 1.3.7
          Platform: x86-64
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: -unknown
        AssignedTo: [e-mail]
        ReportedBy: [e-mail]

Created an attachment (id=32075)
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console output

When I launch it from within Steam or with "steam.exe -applaunch 440" the
"Launching Team Fortress 2" box shows, then exits with nothing happening. This
happens on a fresh prefix (steam folder copied over). My TF2 files successfully
verified.

Console output attached

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--- Comment #1 from [e-mail]  2010-11-22 10:52:55 CST ---
Confirmed here, was working perfectly fine two days ago.

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--- Comment #2 from [e-mail] 2010-11-22 13:21:59 CST ---
Confirm.

Launching through any means fails (within steam client, from applaunch -440
launcher, from the context menu of steam).

Hl2.exe appears briefly in processes, marks ptrace_stop, and then disappears.
Half Life 2 launches and plays normally, as do all other source games on Steam

Apparently (from what I gather from elsewhere online) Valve updated with a
hardware checker. Unrecognized hardware causes a failure to launch.

Could this be related?

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--- Comment #3 from [e-mail] 2010-11-22 13:22:51 CST ---
*** This bug has been confirmed by popular vote. ***

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--- Comment #4 from XeonDead  2010-11-22 15:35:25 CST ---
All that i can say, that this error appeared after last TF2 update at 19.11.10.
They added "cursor-cathing system" or something like that. Looks like wine
doesn't support this, and then TF2 crashes.

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--- Comment #5 from Roberto  2010-11-23 08:25:26 CST ---
This issue might affect all source games, since is an update engine-related.
I'll paste the engine changes:

[Windows] Added support for raw mouse input. Raw input reads directly from
the mouse, bypassing Windows control panel mouse settings. This addresses
issues with high DPI mice, and provides for a more reliable controller
experience at various resolutions
    [Windows] Improved custom mouse acceleration
    [Windows] Updated mouse configuration UI to support raw input and
acceleration; added tooltips to some of the options
    [Windows] Fixed UI tooltips so that they display correctly on first hover

As you can read, source engine does not use windows cp settings. So...wine
doesn't handle raw input properly?

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--- Comment #6 from XeonDead  2010-11-23 09:00:35 CST ---
So only thing for cleaning that bug out is to add raw inputing into wine. Is
that so hard to do?

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--- Comment #7 from Roberto Sten_Gun  2010-11-23 09:28:48 CST ---
I think it's useful to change this bug name to "Source based games won't start"

[Bug 25256] Source based games won't start

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--- Comment #8 from [e-mail] 2010-11-23 09:33:33 CST ---
Left 4 Dead 2 crashes after the intro.

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--- Comment #9 from [e-mail] 2010-11-23 09:34:19 CST ---
Also affects Left 4 Dead 2, crashes after intro video.

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--- Comment #10 from [e-mail] 2010-11-23 09:57:25 CST ---
(In reply to comment #9)
> Also affects Left 4 Dead 2, crashes after intro video.

Now all of a sudden Left 4 Dead 2 works again. I disabled Ubuntu ptrace
protection, launched L4D2 successfully, and managed to launch it again with
ptrace protection enabled. Also was able to successfully join a single player
game. Didn't test multiplayer because I couldn't find a game going this early.
Still no luck with Team Fortress 2.

[Bug 25256] Source based games won't start

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--- Comment #11 from [e-mail] 2010-11-23 16:54:07 CST ---
(In reply to comment #7)
> I think it's useful to change this bug name to "Source based games won't start"

Other source based games are working fine for me. Left4Dead 2, Half Life 2,
Portal all seem to be fine.

[Bug 25256] Source based games won't start

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--- Comment #12 from [e-mail] 2010-11-23 16:59:47 CST ---
(In reply to comment #11)
> (In reply to comment #7)
> > I think it's useful to change this bug name to "Source based games won't start"
>
> Other source based games are working fine for me. Left4Dead 2, Half Life 2,
> Portal all seem to be fine.

No hang on, they're updating. NOO! I was halfway through Half Life, because TF2
broke! NOOOO!!!!

[Bug 25256] Source based games won't start

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--- Comment #13 from [e-mail] 2010-11-23 22:27:40 CST ---
Adding gameoverlayrenderer to Libraries as Disabled in WineCFG fixes this for
me.

Playing TF2 and Half life 2 successfully again.

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--- Comment #14 from [e-mail] 2010-11-23 22:44:32 CST ---
(In reply to comment #13)
> Adding gameoverlayrenderer to Libraries as Disabled in WineCFG fixes this for
> me.
>
> Playing TF2 and Half life 2 successfully again.

While that works to get TF2 starting again, it stops the steam overlay (which
was working previously) from working now.

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--- Comment #15 from Roberto Sten_Gun  2010-11-24 09:33:55 CST ---
So, let me know:
Fast workaround: Disable in game community and override gameoverlayrenderer.dll
to disabled in winecfg.
This will get source games work back again but disables the in game overlay.
Can you confirm that? I'm at university now and I can't open steam.
I'll test that on Left 4 dead 1 when I can.

But is curious that raw mouse input related changes in source engine causes a
crash when using the renderer....
By the way...Is that bug confirmed in ogher source games? (portal, HL2, CS:S
etc)

[Bug 25256] Source based games won't start

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--- Comment #16 from XeonDead  2010-11-24 12:44:16 CST ---
The way of setting gameoverlayrenderer=disabled is not good. It hurts my FPS
very bad. Lost near 30 fps, At DX8.0! We need another way.

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--- Comment #17 from [e-mail] 2010-11-26 23:30:28 CST ---
Still happening in 1.3.8

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--- Comment #18 from XeonDead  2010-11-26 23:31:25 CST ---
Also still happening.

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--- Comment #19 from Dmitry Timoshkov  2010-11-29 02:50:56 CST ---
(In reply to comment #17)
> Still happening in 1.3.8

Adding a comment (without changing the version) is enough.

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--- Comment #20 from [e-mail] 2011-01-15 03:43:35 CST ---
I think I found two duplicates: 24064 and 22053.

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--- Comment #21 from indus  2011-01-27 20:34:40 CST ---
Iam facing a similar problem but with team fortress 2 only.Half life 2 episode
1 works.

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--- Comment #22 from indus  2011-01-27 20:37:19 CST ---
(In reply to comment #21)
> Iam facing a similar problem but with team fortress 2 only.Half life 2 episode
> 1 works.

Does not work with wine 1.2 or newer 1.3.12.

FGLRX drivers from official ubuntu repos and newer 10.12 catalyst drivers.

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--- Comment #23 from indus  2011-01-27 20:39:54 CST ---
Neither does adding gameoverlayrenderer in libraries help launch the game team
fortress 2.

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--- Comment #24 from Collin  2011-02-05 11:49:17 CST ---
Check to see if there's a file called "gameinfo.txt" in your game files, TF2's
gameinfo.txt file is located in its "tf" folder. After reinstalling the game
and verifying that gameinfo.txt is in the folder, it worked perfectly. No
reason to disable gameoverlayrenderer.dll, that's never been an issue with me.

[Bug 25256] Source based games won't start

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--- Comment #25 from [e-mail] 2011-02-05 14:07:38 CST ---
(In reply to comment #24)
> Check to see if there's a file called "gameinfo.txt" in your game files, TF2's
> gameinfo.txt file is located in its "tf" folder. After reinstalling the game
> and verifying that gameinfo.txt is in the folder, it worked perfectly. No
> reason to disable gameoverlayrenderer.dll, that's never been an issue with me.

Gameinfo.txt is there. Gameoverlayrenderer.dll still needs to be disabled.
What's your wine version?

[Bug 25256] Source based games won't start

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--- Comment #26 from Collin  2011-02-05 19:26:33 CST ---
(In reply to comment #25)
> (In reply to comment #24)
> > Check to see if there's a file called "gameinfo.txt" in your game files, TF2's
> > gameinfo.txt file is located in its "tf" folder. After reinstalling the game
> > and verifying that gameinfo.txt is in the folder, it worked perfectly. No
> > reason to disable gameoverlayrenderer.dll, that's never been an issue with me.
>
> Gameinfo.txt is there. Gameoverlayrenderer.dll still needs to be disabled.
> What's your wine version?

I'm running Debian Squeeze x86_64
Nvidia Geforce 9800gt 1GB VRAM

I've used Wine versions 1.3.8-1.3.12 and about to upgrade to 1.3.13.

[Bug 25256] Source based games won't start

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25256

--- Comment #27 from [e-mail] 2011-02-06 12:30:53 CST ---
(In reply to comment #26)
> (In reply to comment #25)
> > (In reply to comment #24)
> > > Check to see if there's a file called "gameinfo.txt" in your game files, TF2's
> > > gameinfo.txt file is located in its "tf" folder. After reinstalling the game
> > > and verifying that gameinfo.txt is in the folder, it worked perfectly. No
> > > reason to disable gameoverlayrenderer.dll, that's never been an issue with me.
> >
> > Gameinfo.txt is there. Gameoverlayrenderer.dll still needs to be disabled.
> > What's your wine version?
>
> I'm running Debian Squeeze x86_64
> Nvidia Geforce 9800gt 1GB VRAM
>
> I've used Wine versions 1.3.8-1.3.12 and about to upgrade to 1.3.13.

Odd. I'm on Ubuntu 10.04 running Wine 1.3.12 with an 8600GT still won't launch
without gameoverlayrenderer.dll disabled. Though I haven't reinstalled TF2
since the issue began (because the download is enormous).

[Bug 25256] Source based games won't start

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--- Comment #28 from Collin  2011-02-18 16:45:06 CST ---
(In reply to comment #27)
> (In reply to comment #26)
> > (In reply to comment #25)
> > > (In reply to comment #24)
> > > > Check to see if there's a file called "gameinfo.txt" in your game files, TF2's
> > > > gameinfo.txt file is located in its "tf" folder. After reinstalling the game
> > > > and verifying that gameinfo.txt is in the folder, it worked perfectly. No
> > > > reason to disable gameoverlayrenderer.dll, that's never been an issue with me.
> > >
> > > Gameinfo.txt is there. Gameoverlayrenderer.dll still needs to be disabled.
> > > What's your wine version?
> >
> > I'm running Debian Squeeze x86_64
> > Nvidia Geforce 9800gt 1GB VRAM
> >
> > I've used Wine versions 1.3.8-1.3.12 and about to upgrade to 1.3.13.
>
> Odd. I'm on Ubuntu 10.04 running Wine 1.3.12 with an 8600GT still won't launch
> without gameoverlayrenderer.dll disabled. Though I haven't reinstalled TF2
> since the issue began (because the download is enormous).

This is extremely odd, on Wine 1.3.13, source games don't want to start
anymore, other games like Half-Life and Team Fortress Classic launch. However
since there's a new Wine version, I'll compile it from source and see what
happens there.

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--- Comment #29 from Collin  2011-02-18 16:53:29 CST ---
.. Question for anybody reading this.

Does Half-Life 2 work for anybody? Because it's the only source-based game
that's currently working for me, TF2, Portal, and everything else doesn't want
to launch, does it have to do with Wine messing up where the "gameinfo.txt"
file goes or messes up its properties or is there something currently wrong
with Steam?

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--- Comment #30 from Collin  2011-02-18 17:43:19 CST ---
The ONLY Source based game that works for me is Half Life 2.

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--- Comment #31 from indus  2011-02-19 05:17:44 CST ---
Ok i got a new ia 32 libs package from the wine repo a few days ago and team
fortress 2 has started working again.

This is without any gameoverlayrender overrides.I havent touched any wine
config.The game started working with the new ia 32 libs.

Of course , like always the game hard locks with my ATI 4850 .So it has always
been unplayable for me.Only half life 2 is playable at decent fps.

I just got an updated wine now 1.3.14 today , will install and report back.

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http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25256

--- Comment #32 from Collin  2011-02-19 14:03:03 CST ---
(In reply to comment #31)
> Ok i got a new ia 32 libs package from the wine repo a few days ago and team
> fortress 2 has started working again.
>
> This is without any gameoverlayrender overrides.I havent touched any wine
> config.The game started working with the new ia 32 libs.
>
> Of course , like always the game hard locks with my ATI 4850 .So it has always
> been unplayable for me.Only half life 2 is playable at decent fps.
>
> I just got an updated wine now 1.3.14 today , will install and report back.

Did you install Wine from source or from a .deb package? Because after
installing Wine 1.3.14 from source, source games other than Half-Life 2 refuse
to launch still.

On Debian Squeeze, currently wondering what is needed in order to play this
game, among others. I've got the IA32 libraries installed, none need to be
updated.

[Bug 25256] Source based games won't start

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25256

--- Comment #33 from [e-mail] 2011-02-19 15:08:41 CST ---
(In reply to comment #32)
> (In reply to comment #31)
> > Ok i got a new ia 32 libs package from the wine repo a few days ago and team
> > fortress 2 has started working again.
> >
> > This is without any gameoverlayrender overrides.I havent touched any wine
> > config.The game started working with the new ia 32 libs.
> >
> > Of course , like always the game hard locks with my ATI 4850 .So it has always
> > been unplayable for me.Only half life 2 is playable at decent fps.
> >
> > I just got an updated wine now 1.3.14 today , will install and report back.
>
> Did you install Wine from source or from a .deb package? Because after
> installing Wine 1.3.14 from source, source games other than Half-Life 2 refuse
> to launch still.
>
> On Debian Squeeze, currently wondering what is needed in order to play this
> game, among others. I've got the IA32 libraries installed, none need to be
> updated.

I use ubuntu maverick and what worked for me was compiling from source using
gcc-4.5. I've been playing TF2 and have been able to use the ingame community.

[Bug 25256] Source based games won't start

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--- Comment #34 from indus  2011-02-20 02:24:40 CST ---
(In reply to comment #32)
> (In reply to comment #31)
> > Ok i got a new ia 32 libs package from the wine repo a few days ago and team
> > fortress 2 has started working again.
> >
> > This is without any gameoverlayrender overrides.I havent touched any wine
> > config.The game started working with the new ia 32 libs.
> >
> > Of course , like always the game hard locks with my ATI 4850 .So it has always
> > been unplayable for me.Only half life 2 is playable at decent fps.
> >
> > I just got an updated wine now 1.3.14 today , will install and report back.
>
> Did you install Wine from source or from a .deb package? Because after
> installing Wine 1.3.14 from source, source games other than Half-Life 2 refuse
> to launch still.
>
> On Debian Squeeze, currently wondering what is needed in order to play this
> game, among others. I've got the IA32 libraries installed, none need to be
> updated.

Hi colin

I use ubuntu 64 wine ppa .It offered me a newer set of its own ia32 libs a few
days ago and tf2 started working again.

[Bug 25256] Source based games won't start

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25256

--- Comment #35 from [e-mail] 2011-02-20 09:58:18 CST ---
So how do I get the latest IA32 libs? I did a system update, wine is 1.3.14,
TF2 still won't launch without gameoverlayrenderer.dll disabled.

Ubuntu's 10.04, 32 bit, Intel core 2 duo 2.4Ghz, Nvidia 8600GT

[Bug 25256] Source based games won't start

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25256

--- Comment #36 from Collin  2011-02-20 16:16:58 CST ---
(In reply to comment #34)
> (In reply to comment #32)
> > (In reply to comment #31)
> > > Ok i got a new ia 32 libs package from the wine repo a few days ago and team
> > > fortress 2 has started working again.
> > >
> > > This is without any gameoverlayrender overrides.I havent touched any wine
> > > config.The game started working with the new ia 32 libs.
> > >
> > > Of course , like always the game hard locks with my ATI 4850 .So it has always
> > > been unplayable for me.Only half life 2 is playable at decent fps.
> > >
> > > I just got an updated wine now 1.3.14 today , will install and report back.
> >
> > Did you install Wine from source or from a .deb package? Because after
> > installing Wine 1.3.14 from source, source games other than Half-Life 2 refuse
> > to launch still.
> >
> > On Debian Squeeze, currently wondering what is needed in order to play this
> > game, among others. I've got the IA32 libraries installed, none need to be
> > updated.
>
> Hi colin
>
> I use ubuntu 64 wine ppa .It offered me a newer set of its own ia32 libs a few
> days ago and tf2 started working again.

Interesting, so IA32 libs are the reason as to why TF2 won't work for me or any
other game for that matter? It's kinda random and annoying. One game works,
while the other doesn't, with WINE compiled from source.

[Bug 25256] Source based games won't start

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25256

--- Comment #37 from indus  2011-02-21 04:42:56 CST ---
(In reply to comment #35)
> So how do I get the latest IA32 libs? I did a system update, wine is 1.3.14,
> TF2 still won't launch without gameoverlayrenderer.dll disabled.
>
> Ubuntu's 10.04, 32 bit, Intel core 2 duo 2.4Ghz, Nvidia 8600GT

Hi

ia32 libs is only for the 64 bit version of ubuntu,actually that is why the
package is called ia32 because its the required 32 bit libraries which are
needed in ubuntu 64 bit version,, you should continue to disable
gameoverlayrenderer if that is working for you.

[Bug 25256] Source based games won't start

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--- Comment #38 from indus  2011-02-21 04:45:19 CST ---
(In reply to comment #36)
> (In reply to comment #34)
> > (In reply to comment #32)
> > > (In reply to comment #31)
> > > > Ok i got a new ia 32 libs package from the wine repo a few days ago and team
> > > > fortress 2 has started working again.
> > > >
> > > > This is without any gameoverlayrender overrides.I havent touched any wine
> > > > config.The game started working with the new ia 32 libs.
> > > >
> > > > Of course , like always the game hard locks with my ATI 4850 .So it has always
> > > > been unplayable for me.Only half life 2 is playable at decent fps.
> > > >
> > > > I just got an updated wine now 1.3.14 today , will install and report back.
> > >
> > > Did you install Wine from source or from a .deb package? Because after
> > > installing Wine 1.3.14 from source, source games other than Half-Life 2 refuse
> > > to launch still.
> > >
> > > On Debian Squeeze, currently wondering what is needed in order to play this
> > > game, among others. I've got the IA32 libraries installed, none need to be
> > > updated.
> >
> > Hi colin
> >
> > I use ubuntu 64 wine ppa .It offered me a newer set of its own ia32 libs a few
> > days ago and tf2 started working again.
>
> Interesting, so IA32 libs are the reason as to why TF2 won't work for me or any
> other game for that matter? It's kinda random and annoying. One game works,
> while the other doesn't, with WINE compiled from source.

One developer told me that ubuntu's ia32 libs is missing some libraries hence
the wine ppa offers its own set of 32 bit libs.

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Channel Comments (45)

NothingMuchHereToSay (4 days ago)
Unblocked me eh? DIdya have a change of heart? :D

Nayrman214 (1 week ago)
Yeah, I just deleted the videos. Simply put the hassle wasn't worth it. I don't
want to spend hours of my time trying to convince Youtube that it's my video.
Geh...

Nayrman214 (1 week ago)
They claimed copyright on a Mario Galaxy 2 video I recorded myself and they're
basically being complete assholes. Seriously, this copyright system here is
bullshit.

WaffleAfterHours (2 weeks ago)
It's nothing, just school stuff

SenorSockbat (3 weeks ago)
No "but"s. Make one. Now.

SenorSockbat (3 weeks ago)
50!

...now make a goddamn video.

SenorSockbat (3 weeks ago)
One more 'till 50.

TheLordSantiva (1 month ago)
Sup, bro. Skype?

SenorSockbat (1 month ago)
*him

SenorSockbat (1 month ago)
No kidding. I was arguing with Indy1489, and then he blocked me and his fucking
stupid friends came at me. Just try to criticize hm and see what happens.
(In reply to comment #38)
> (In reply to comment #36)
> > (In reply to comment #34)
> > > (In reply to comment #32)
> > > > (In reply to comment #31)
> > > > > Ok i got a new ia 32 libs package from the wine repo a few days ago and team
> > > > > fortress 2 has started working again.
> > > > >
> > > > > This is without any gameoverlayrender overrides.I havent touched any wine
> > > > > config.The game started working with the new ia 32 libs.
> > > > >
> > > > > Of course , like always the game hard locks with my ATI 4850 .So it has always
> > > > > been unplayable for me.Only half life 2 is playable at decent fps.
> > > > >
> > > > > I just got an updated wine now 1.3.14 today , will install and report back.
> > > >
> > > > Did you install Wine from source or from a .deb package? Because after
> > > > installing Wine 1.3.14 from source, source games other than Half-Life 2 refuse
> > > > to launch still.
> > > >
> > > > On Debian Squeeze, currently wondering what is needed in order to play this
> > > > game, among others. I've got the IA32 libraries installed, none need to be
> > > > updated.
> > >
> > > Hi colin
> > >
> > > I use ubuntu 64 wine ppa .It offered me a newer set of its own ia32 libs a few
> > > days ago and tf2 started working again.
> >
> > Interesting, so IA32 libs are the reason as to why TF2 won't work for me or any
> > other game for that matter? It's kinda random and annoying. One game works,
> > while the other doesn't, with WINE compiled from source.
>
> One developer told me that ubuntu's ia32 libs is missing some libraries hence
> the wine ppa offers its own set of 32 bit libs.

So, for Debian, I have to look for more ia32 libs? Do development ones exist
for compiling from source? Or could I just use the .debs if they exist for the
devs? (I used to use the .debs, until I figured out how to compile something)

[Bug 25256] Source based games won't start

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25256

--- Comment #40 from [e-mail] 2011-03-11 15:28:29 CST ---
I've reinstalled Wine, started a new C: drive, reinstalled Steam, and copied my
TF2 files over.

I still can't run the game without disabling gameoverlayrenderer.dll
Or use Steam community in game

It's Ubuntu 10.04
Wine 1.3 from PPA
Winetricksed in d3dx9
(doesn't work with it off either.)
Nvidia Geforce 8600GT
Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4GHZ
2GB DDR2

Anyone got any insights? it sounds like others managed to fix this.

How?

[Bug 25256] Source based games won't start

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25256

--- Comment #41 from Roberto Sten_Gun  2011-03-14 03:37:40 CDT ---
I've done some tests about this in a machine with this specs:
proc: Intel core 2 quad q 9550 2.6 ghz
ram: 4gb ddr3
mainboard: asus p5q3
video: radeon HD 4870 1gb gddr5
3x hd western digital SATA 320gb
os: Ubuntu 10.10 x64 kernel: 2.6.32.2 with BFS and BFQ patches.
so:
Playing TF2 and Left 4 dead (wich are the only 2 games I tested yet) with
gameoverlay enabled does not crash my game. I can use overlay and chat without
any problem at all (despite bad performance on ATI cards).
Maybe is a Nvidia related problem?

[Bug 25256] Source based games won't start

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25256

--- Comment #42 from [e-mail] 2011-03-20 12:44:56 CDT ---
Tried TF2 on a similar machine to my own

(MSI GX720, Nvidia Geforce 9600M 4GB Ram, Core 2 Duo at 2.4GHZ ubuntu 10.04)

Won't launch without gameoverlayrenderer disabled.

This, I feel, rules out any configuration issues with my laptop.

[Bug 25256] Source based games won't start

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25256

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--- Comment #43 from Nephyrin zey  2011-05-11 19:16:53 CDT ---
FWIW, on my nvidia/arch system all source games (aside from portal 2, see bug
26835) launch file with overlay enabled.

I am using windows 7 mode, *no* winetricks overrides. Latest NV binary driver.

[Bug 25256] Source based games won't start

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25256

Luke Bratch  changed:

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--- Comment #44 from [e-mail] 2011-05-20 18:20:55 CDT ---
Running 1.3.20 built with gcc 4.5

Tested TF2, CSS, HL2, portal 1.

TF2 crashes on the loading screen before getting to the menu. Reminds me of
portal 2, but I don't know enough to say if it's actually the same thing.

CSS, HL2, and portal 1 still work though.

[Bug 25256] Source based games won't start

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25256

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--- Comment #45 from Matthew Skolaut  2011-06-14 13:34:31 CDT ---
I was suffering from this problem until i poured over the console output of
Steam.exe and found that you have to reinstall your graphics drivers ever
kernel or distro update (also i assume every opengl update) manually with the
manufacturers proprietary drivers. Run Steam in console and check/grep for
these lines:

err:wgl:X11DRV_WineGL_InitOpenglInfo  couldn't initialize OpenGL, expect
problemserr:d3d_caps:WineD3D_CreateFakeGLContext Can't find a suitable
iPixelFormat.
err:d3d:InitAdapters Failed to get a gl context for default adapterDirect3D9 is
not available without

[Bug 25256] Source based games won't start

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25256

--- Comment #46 from Austin English  2013-11-13 16:48:38 CST ---
This is your friendly reminder that there has been no bug activity for 2 years.
Is this still an issue in current (1.7.6 or newer) wine? If so, please attach
the terminal output in 1.7.6 (see http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#get_log).

[Bug 25256] Source based games won't start (Team Fortress 2)

https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25256

Anastasius Focht  changed:

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           Keywords|                            |download
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
                URL|                            |http://store.steampowered.c
                   |                            |om/app/440/
                 CC|                            |[e-mail]
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED
            Summary|Source based games won't    |Source based games won't
                   |start                       |start (Team Fortress 2)

--- Comment #47 from Anastasius Focht  ---
Hello folks,

due to its age, this bug accumulated different issues over time.
I can't reproduce this with TF2, resolving 'fixed'.

$ wine --version
wine-1.7.16-134-g0ff879b

Regards

[Bug 25256] Source based games won't start (Team Fortress 2)

https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25256

Alexandre Julliard  changed:

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--- Comment #48 from Alexandre Julliard  ---
Closing bugs fixed in 1.7.17.