[Bug 35243] New: Blood Bowl: Legendary Edition fails to show up in windowed mode

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35243

Bug ID: 35243
           Summary: Blood Bowl: Legendary Edition fails to show up in
                    windowed mode
           Product: Wine
           Version: 1.7.9
          Hardware: x86
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: minor
          Priority: P2
         Component: -unknown
          Assignee: [e-mail]
          Reporter: [e-mail]
    Classification: Unclassified

Created attachment 47002
  --> http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=47002
terminal output

I don't have Windows installed on my machine so can't tell how the game behaves
under real Windows when it is started in windowed mode, therefore I'm leaving
this bug unconfirmed until someone can confirm that the problem exists under
Windows too.

By default the game would start in windowed mode and with cinematics enabled.
When starting the game in Wine the splash screen is shown then I can hear the
music from the menu, but no visible window is created, the game is running
somewhere in the background and I can't switch to the game window.

I tested this bug under Gnome 3, XFCE 4.10 and Openbox window managers, the
problem exists in Wine 1.4.1, 1.6.1 too.
Disabling gameoverlayrenderer or native d3dx9 dlls won't help.

I have to change the settings in ~/BloodBowlLegendary/Config.xml to enable full
screen mode that lets the game start, except for a crash which would be the
subject of my next bug report.

Fedora 19 x86
Nvidia binary drivers 325.15
X.Org X Server 1.14.4

[Bug 35243] Blood Bowl: Legendary Edition fails to show up in windowed mode

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35243

Sitting Bull  changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Sitting Bull  ---
Are you using any kind of winetrick install script and/or PlayOnLinux usage ?

Please find hereunder my remarks and feedbacks.
> […]
> I don't have Windows installed on my machine so can't tell how the game
> behaves under real Windows when it is started in windowed mode, therefore
> I'm leaving this bug unconfirmed until someone can confirm that the problem
> exists under Windows too.

I do not see this behavior with a Windows 7 box with latest BB EL patches, see
http://forum.bloodbowl-game.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=2742: starting videos
are shown with sound and game can be played without any problem.
> By default the game would start in windowed mode and with cinematics enabled.
> When starting the game in Wine the splash screen is shown then I can hear
> the music from the menu, but no visible window is created, the game is
> running somewhere in the background and I can't switch to the game window.

Can you please explain more the « splash screen is shown » part ?
Are you talking about « launcher » that allows you to choose between 4 options
before entering game.
> I tested this bug under Gnome 3, XFCE 4.10 and Openbox window managers, the
> problem exists in Wine 1.4.1, 1.6.1 too.
> Disabling gameoverlayrenderer or native d3dx9 dlls won't help.
>
> I have to change the settings in ~/BloodBowlLegendary/Config.xml to enable
> full screen mode that lets the game start, except for a crash which would be
> the subject of my next bug report.
> […]

I cannot see this behavior with an Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS box without any
winetrick. :-S

Reading this bug report, I realized that I was playing the game in windowed
mode, even if I could not see it. I mean that configuration file has windowed
mode set and screen resolution corresponding to my entire screen. So that game
is not shown into a window but as if it were full screen.

[Bug 35243] Blood Bowl: Legendary Edition fails to show up in windowed mode

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--- Comment #2 from GyB  ---
(In reply to comment #1)
> Are you using any kind of winetrick install script and/or PlayOnLinux usage ?

Nope, fresh wineprefix, only native d3dx9_36/d3dx9_28 and xact_jun2010 were
installed.
> Please find hereunder my remarks and feedbacks.
> > […]
> > I don't have Windows installed on my machine so can't tell how the game
> > behaves under real Windows when it is started in windowed mode, therefore
> > I'm leaving this bug unconfirmed until someone can confirm that the problem
> > exists under Windows too.
>
> I do not see this behavior with a Windows 7 box with latest BB EL patches,
> see http://forum.bloodbowl-game.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=2742: starting
> videos are shown with sound and game can be played without any problem.
> > By default the game would start in windowed mode and with cinematics enabled.
> > When starting the game in Wine the splash screen is shown then I can hear
> > the music from the menu, but no visible window is created, the game is
> > running somewhere in the background and I can't switch to the game window.
>
> Can you please explain more the « splash screen is shown » part ?
> Are you talking about « launcher » that allows you to choose between 4
> options before entering game.

A splash image is shown in the middle of the screen (640x400 px). I don't see
any launcher here. I tested with the Steam version.

[Bug 35243] Blood Bowl: Legendary Edition fails to show up in windowed mode

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35243

--- Comment #3 from Sitting Bull  ---
Created attachment 47006
  --> http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=47006
Launcher screenshot (french version)

[Bug 35243] Blood Bowl: Legendary Edition fails to show up in windowed mode

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--- Comment #4 from Sitting Bull  ---
Created attachment 47007
  --> http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=47007
Splash screen (just before game starts)

[Bug 35243] Blood Bowl: Legendary Edition fails to show up in windowed mode

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35243

--- Comment #5 from Sitting Bull  ---
(In reply to comment #2)
> (In reply to comment #1)
> > Are you using any kind of winetrick install script and/or PlayOnLinux usage ?
>
> Nope, fresh wineprefix, only native d3dx9_36/d3dx9_28 and xact_jun2010 were
> installed.

What is « only native d3dx9_36/d3dx9_28 and xact_jun2010 were installed » ?
I did not install anything else than wine and game in order to play. Are these
packages corresponding to your distro for wine ?
> […]
> > Can you please explain more the « splash screen is shown » part ?
> > Are you talking about « launcher » that allows you to choose between 4
> > options before entering game.
>
> A splash image is shown in the middle of the screen (640x400 px). I don't
> see any launcher here. I tested with the Steam version.

Just to double check that we speak about the same thing, I've attached 2
screenshots to this bug. Can you please confirm that what you see does match
with attachment named « Splash screen (just before game starts) » ?

I see in your log file that you have latests patches for BB LE, I'll give it a
try after installing them (until now, I only had 2.0.0.0 version installed on
my ubuntu box).

Note also that I use wine version 1.7.8 (package wine1.7, version
1.7.8-0ubuntu1).

[Bug 35243] Blood Bowl: Legendary Edition fails to show up in windowed mode

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--- Comment #6 from GyB  ---
> What is « only native d3dx9_36/d3dx9_28 and xact_jun2010 were installed » ?
> I did not install anything else than wine and game in order to play. Are
> these packages corresponding to your distro for wine ?

The game needs native d3dx9_36 (or d3dx9_28) because of:
...
fixme:d3dx:D3DXCreateEffectEx (0x13ca40, 0x360000, 3247, (nil), (nil), (nil),
0, (nil), 0x33f074, 0x33f07c): semi-stub
fixme:d3dx:d3dx9_base_effect_init HLSL ascii effects not supported, yet
fixme:d3dx:d3dx9_base_effect_get_desc partial stub!
...
> Just to double check that we speak about the same thing, I've attached 2
> screenshots to this bug. Can you please confirm that what you see does match
> with attachment named « Splash screen (just before game starts) » ?

There's no launcher in the Steam version, only the splash screen is present.

[Bug 35243] Blood Bowl: Legendary Edition fails to show up in windowed mode

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35243

--- Comment #7 from Sitting Bull  ---
(In reply to comment #6)
> > What is « only native d3dx9_36/d3dx9_28 and xact_jun2010 were installed » ?
> > I did not install anything else than wine and game in order to play. Are
> > these packages corresponding to your distro for wine ?
>
> The game needs native d3dx9_36 (or d3dx9_28) because of:
> ...
> fixme:d3dx:D3DXCreateEffectEx (0x13ca40, 0x360000, 3247, (nil), (nil),
> (nil), 0, (nil), 0x33f074, 0x33f07c): semi-stub
> fixme:d3dx:d3dx9_base_effect_init HLSL ascii effects not supported, yet
> fixme:d3dx:d3dx9_base_effect_get_desc partial stub!
> ...

On my side, I did not install anything besides wine (and made no winecfg
changes). Is there a way for me to see if I use builtin or native DLLs ?
> > Just to double check that we speak about the same thing, I've attached 2
> > screenshots to this bug. Can you please confirm that what you see does match
> > with attachment named « Splash screen (just before game starts) » ?
>
> There's no launcher in the Steam version, only the splash screen is present.

Ok, thanks for the info. What command line do you use to launch game ?

Now that I have BB EL patches installed, behavior somehow changed: I do splash
screen for about 7 seconds, then I do not see anything for a minute or so (but
I do here music and crowd sound from intro video) and then black screen until I
left clic on mouse (I waited no more than 10s with black screen), at last game
menu appears.

Have you tried waiting past first minutes after having launched game ?

[Bug 35243] Blood Bowl: Legendary Edition fails to show up in windowed mode

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35243

--- Comment #8 from GyB  ---
> On my side, I did not install anything besides wine (and made no winecfg
> changes). Is there a way for me to see if I use builtin or native DLLs ?

Start the game with WINEDEBUG=+loaddll (redirect the output to a file)
> > > Just to double check that we speak about the same thing, I've attached 2
> > > screenshots to this bug. Can you please confirm that what you see does match
> > > with attachment named « Splash screen (just before game starts) » ?
> >
> > There's no launcher in the Steam version, only the splash screen is present.
>
> Ok, thanks for the info. What command line do you use to launch game ?

I started the game from Steam, no specific command line was added. I also tried
starting the game directly with 'wine Steam.exe -applaunch 58520' with the same
result.
> Now that I have BB EL patches installed, behavior somehow changed: I do
> splash screen for about 7 seconds, then I do not see anything for a minute
> or so (but I do here music and crowd sound from intro video) and then black
> screen until I left clic on mouse (I waited no more than 10s with black
> screen), at last game menu appears.
>
> Have you tried waiting past first minutes after having launched game ?

I waited for about 5 minutes but the game just doesn't show up, only the main
menu music is playing. The game has no visible window.

[Bug 35243] Blood Bowl: Legendary Edition fails to show up in windowed mode

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35243

--- Comment #9 from Sitting Bull  ---
Created attachment 47009
  --> http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=47009
File made with command «  WINEDEBUG=+loaddll wine BB_LE.exe >
nohup_wine_BB_LE.exe.txt 2>&1 »

[Bug 35243] Blood Bowl: Legendary Edition fails to show up in windowed mode

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--- Comment #10 from Sitting Bull  ---
(In reply to comment #8)
> Start the game with WINEDEBUG=+loaddll (redirect the output to a file)

I've just attached output made adding this parameter. Indeed, I do use also
native DLL. They are bundled with the game (including d3dx9_28.dll).
> […]
> > What command line do you use to launch game ?
>
> I started the game from Steam, no specific command line was added. I also
> tried starting the game directly with 'wine Steam.exe -applaunch 58520' with
> the same result.

Sorry to insist, but isn't Blood Bowl *not* tagged as linux game in steam ?
I tried to add my own game to my (Linux) Steam account, but steam didn't
allowed me so (steam seems to need a .desktop file).
> > Now that I have BB EL patches installed, behavior somehow changed: I do
> > splash screen for about 7 seconds, then I do not see anything for a minute
> > or so (but I do here music and crowd sound from intro video) and then black
> > screen until I left clic on mouse (I waited no more than 10s with black
> > screen), at last game menu appears.
> >
> > Have you tried waiting past first minutes after having launched game ?
>
> I waited for about 5 minutes but the game just doesn't show up, only the
> main menu music is playing. The game has no visible window.

Another difference I see between our installation is that I use an AMD video
card (not a NVidia one).

Well, I believe I am reaching my limits here… :-/
I installed game from scratch, but if I understand well this is not an option
on your side (steam does not gives installation files).

As game runs on my computer feel free to ask for any further test I may do.

[Bug 35243] Blood Bowl: Legendary Edition fails to show up in windowed mode

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--- Comment #11 from Béla Gyebrószki  ---
Still present in 1.7.34

[Bug 35243] Blood Bowl: Legendary Edition fails to show up in windowed mode

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--- Comment #12 from Berillions  ---
(In reply to Béla Gyebrószki from comment #11)
> Still present in 1.7.34

Same thing with BB : Chaos Edition. If the prefix is set to WinXP, i hear the
main music but the game itself does not showed up.

Set wineprefix to Win7 resolv the issue.

[Bug 35243] Blood Bowl: Legendary Edition fails to show up in windowed mode

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--- Comment #13 from Béla Gyebrószki  ---
Still present in 1.9.24.

As noted in comment #12, the problem doesn't occur in Windows 7 mode.

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--- Comment #14 from joaopa  ---
Does the bug still occur with wine-5.0-rc1?

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Béla Gyebrószki  changed:

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--- Comment #15 from Béla Gyebrószki  ---
Steam won't start when Windows XP profile is selected and the problem is not
reproducible under Windows 7 profile.
Marking abandoned.

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André H.  changed:

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--- Comment #16 from André H.  ---
closing abandoned