[Bug 22880] New: Lemmix sound effects are missing

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Summary: Lemmix sound effects are missing
           Product: Wine
           Version: 1.1.42
          Platform: x86
               URL: http://ericenzwaan.nl/eric/lemmings/LemmixPlayer_1_3.z
                    ip
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: trivial
          Priority: P2
         Component: -unknown
        AssignedTo: [e-mail]
        ReportedBy: [e-mail]

When playing Lemmix (a clone of the Lemmings game), the sound effects are
missing.  Fortunately the background level music plays - only the sound effects
don't work.

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Vitaliy Margolen  changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Vitaliy Margolen   2010-05-26 08:24:28 ---
Please retest with latest Wine version wine-1.2-rc1

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--- Comment #2 from Vincent Povirk   2010-05-26 08:52:23 ---
Still present in 1.2-rc1.

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--- Comment #3 from Vincent Povirk   2010-05-26 09:20:02 ---
I blame the following line in my winmm log:

0020:trace:winmm:WAVE_Open dwRet = MMSYSERR_ALLOCATED

Also, if the music is turned off (press F3 at the menu until it says FX), sound
effects work.

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--- Comment #4 from Jörg Höhle   2010-05-28 16:36:11 ---
Does MMSYSERR_ALLOCATED make this a duplicate of bug #22261?
I.e. Wine, like win95 AFAIK, only allows one winmm device open at any one time,
while w2k and later use the WDM to perform mixing (dsound does too) -- yet the
website mentions win98, are sound effects present on a win98 box?

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--- Comment #5 from Wylda   2010-05-31 06:03:56 ---
(In reply to comment #4)
> Does MMSYSERR_ALLOCATED make this a duplicate of bug #22261?
> I.e. Wine, like win95 AFAIK, only allows one winmm device open at any one time,
> while w2k and later use the WDM to perform mixing (dsound does too) -- yet the
> website mentions win98, are sound effects present on a win98 box?

Hi Jörg, yes in case of Win98 (vmware machine), there is music and sound
effects together.

So this is valid bug report.

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--- Comment #6 from Raymond   2010-06-01 09:54:24 ---
(In reply to comment #4)
> Does MMSYSERR_ALLOCATED make this a duplicate of bug #22261?
> I.e. Wine, like win95 AFAIK, only allows one winmm device open at any one time,
> while w2k and later use the WDM to perform mixing (dsound does too) -- yet the
> website mentions win98, are sound effects present on a win98 box?

all those hardware mixing 16 voices sound cards use ac97 codec , so winmm is
unlikely allow more than one device in win95 , but the patch in bug#22261 is
also wrong if your card does not support 16 voices

any log with WINEDEBUG=+alsa,+dsound

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--- Comment #7 from Vincent Povirk   2010-06-05 10:45:14 ---
Created an attachment (id=28584)
 --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=28584)
log with WINEDEBUG=+alsa,+dsound on wine-1.2-rc2-111-g9aa9a12

This is a surprisingly short log.

Also, the patch on bug 22261 is malformed.

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--- Comment #8 from Wylda   2010-06-06 04:20:51 ---
> > website mentions win98, are sound effects present on a win98 box?
>
> all those hardware mixing 16 voices sound cards use ac97 codec , so winmm is
> unlikely allow more than one device in win95 , but the patch in bug#22261 is
> also wrong if your card does not support 16 voices

I don't know if it can help somehow, but i got those sound+effects under Win98
with SoundBlaster PCI128 driver.

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--- Comment #9 from Raymond   2010-06-06 17:04:11 ---
(In reply to comment #8)
> I don't know if it can help somehow, but i got those sound+effects under Win98
> with SoundBlaster PCI128 driver.

http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Vendor-Creative_Labs

seem that those .ecw Ensoniq Concert Wavetable are not supported , only emu10k1
support those soundfont .sf2 [wavetable]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ensoniq_AudioPCI

you have to use softsynth (e.g. "timidity -iA" )

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--- Comment #10 from Raymond   2010-06-06 17:08:50 ---
(In reply to comment #3)
> I blame the following line in my winmm log:
>
> 0020:trace:winmm:WAVE_Open dwRet = MMSYSERR_ALLOCATED
>
> Also, if the music is turned off (press F3 at the menu until it says FX), sound
> effects work.

cannot find the above error in you log

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--- Comment #11 from Vincent Povirk   2010-06-06 17:43:05 ---
That's because I gave you the channels you asked for, alsa and dsound. That
line would show up in a winmm log.

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--- Comment #12 from Raymond   2010-06-06 20:36:44 ---
(In reply to comment #11)
> That's because I gave you the channels you asked for, alsa and dsound. That
> line would show up in a winmm log.

0020:trace:winmm:WAVE_Open dwRet = MMSYSERR_ALLOCATED

this seem that the program expect the driver support multiple waveoutopen
concurrently

the oss driver ens1371 seem support /dev/dsp and /dev/adsp  ( not sure the
alternate PCM output to the front channels or rear channels )

Take a look at the system diagram of ymf724 datasheet , there are multiple
WaveOut device connected to Ds1 slot manager ( up to 64 sound)

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--- Comment #13 from Raymond   2010-06-06 20:48:21 ---
There is a test test_multiple_waveopens() which try to perform multiple
waveopens but the current implementation does not support multiple wave open
even when the sound card support (alsa sound driver which has multiple
subdevices ) because wine only expect there is only one playback device for
each sound card

http://source.winehq.org/git/wine.git/?a=commitdiff;h=6a7127bfc201ff7a218795...

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--- Comment #14 from Jörg Höhle   2010-06-12 15:48:03 ---
Wylda, [in reply to comment #5]
> So this is valid bug report.

I do not dispute this. I simply believe that we need a single bug report about
the audio driver's inability in Wine to handle multiple concurrent opens -- or
perhaps, one such bug per audio driver:
 + bug #22261 mentions the deprecated esound driver supports multiple opens;
 + I believe MacOS' CoreAudio driver does:
     commit ef87a050c6966d43fe1b457e80faa8b0bb31755d since wine-1.1.32
 - neither wineOSS.drv
 - nor wineALSA do.
That's why I suggest to mark the present issue as duplicate (despite the Lemmix
download link).

I believe the actual sound HW (ens1371, AC'97 etc.) does not matter to Wine.
These days, most Linux systems allow multiple opens and perform mixing (ALSA's
dmix, OSS4 ...) when needed.

Note that there may be various reasons why music and sound do not mix, some
external to Wine. On a Ubuntu system with PulseAudio, I've had situations where
Timitidy grabbed the ALSA audio output (first come, first served), therefore no
other app could produce sound any more, not /usr/bin/speaker-test, nor Wine's
sound, nor any PulseAudio app.

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--- Comment #15 from Raymond   2010-06-12 18:47:48 ---
(In reply to comment #14)
> I believe the actual sound HW (ens1371, AC'97 etc.) does not matter to Wine.
> These days, most Linux systems allow multiple opens and perform mixing (ALSA's
> dmix, OSS4 ...) when needed.

are you using dmix or pulseaudio ?

In OSS/Free ,

/dev/dsp is alsa 's hw:0,0
/dev/adsp is alsa 's hw:0,1

aplay -l
**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: AudioPCI [Ensoniq AudioPCI], device 0: ES1371/1 [ES1371 DAC2/ADC]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: AudioPCI [Ensoniq AudioPCI], device 1: ES1371/2 [ES1371 DAC1]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
> Note that there may be various reasons why music and sound do not mix, some
> external to Wine. On a Ubuntu system with PulseAudio, I've had situations where
> Timitidy grabbed the ALSA audio output (first come, first served), therefore no
> other app could produce sound any more, not /usr/bin/speaker-test, nor Wine's
> sound, nor any PulseAudio app.

It really depend on your sound card support hardware mixing or not

did you configured timitity to use dmix ?

dmix is hardcoded to use subdevice 0

even your hardware mixing sound card which has multiple subdevice , dmix can
only use subdevice 0

if you did not specify subdevice (e.g. hw:0,0) , alsa-lib use default subdevice
value -1 which mean any available subdevice ( hw:0,0,-1)

ens1371 has 2 playback devices , hw:0,0 and hw:0,1

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--- Comment #16 from David   2010-06-13 15:55:17 ---
*UPDATE*

Discovered by chance that if you have another sound playing and open any of the
2 Lemmix games, this will cause problems!

First thing I noticed upon opening Lemmix was the music icon was missing and
replaced with the letters "FX" (this should never happen).  The background
music still worked, but still no sound effects.  Then I got logged out of
Ubuntu without warning!!

I was playing internet radio and lowered the volume of Lemmix via the Sound
Preferences in Ubuntu.

I thought I'd let you know as it could help with the sound issues in Wine.  I
don't understand the technical information posted above, but hope this comment
of mine helps. :)

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--- Comment #17 from Raymond   2010-06-17 20:04:41 ---
(In reply to comment #16)
> *UPDATE*
>
> Discovered by chance that if you have another sound playing and open any of the
> 2 Lemmix games, this will cause problems!
>
> First thing I noticed upon opening Lemmix was the music icon was missing and
> replaced with the letters "FX" (this should never happen).  The background
> music still worked, but still no sound effects.  Then I got logged out of
> Ubuntu without warning!!
>
> I was playing internet radio and lowered the volume of Lemmix via the Sound
> Preferences in Ubuntu.
>
> I thought I'd let you know as it could help with the sound issues in Wine.  I
> don't understand the technical information posted above, but hope this comment
> of mine helps. :)

According to the author of freebsd driver

Ensoniq based chips does have 2 DAC, ...
The original intent of DAC1 actually to implement some sort of wavetable synth

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-multimedia/2005-October/002831.ht...

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--- Comment #18 from David   2010-07-01 07:37:10 ---
I have tried all the Lemmix versions in Windows XP and the sound effects work.

In Wine, the sound effects do not work, but the background music plays fine.

As I dual-boot with Windows XP and Ubuntu, I could provide helpful bug reports
by testing programs in Windows XP and of course testing them in Wine when I'm
using Ubuntu.

I'm sorry I can't fix the bugs as I can't do programming, but providing
detailed bug reports is hopefully a good contribution for improving Wine for
everyone?

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--- Comment #19 from Raymond   2010-07-02 10:26:09 ---
(In reply to comment #11)
> That's because I gave you the channels you asked for, alsa and dsound. That
> line would show up in a winmm log.

please post the full log and don't trim the output

WINEDEBUG=+dsound,+midi,+alsa

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--- Comment #20 from David   2010-07-16 06:47:42 ---
Still no sound effects in Lemmix using Wine version 1.2-rc7.

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--- Comment #21 from Raymond   2010-07-17 20:26:19 ---
(In reply to comment #3)
> I blame the following line in my winmm log:
>
> 0020:trace:winmm:WAVE_Open dwRet = MMSYSERR_ALLOCATED
>
> Also, if the music is turned off (press F3 at the menu until it says FX), sound
> effects work.

can you post the whole log ?

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--- Comment #22 from David  2010-08-27 17:36:46 CDT ---
This appears to be the exactly the same bug in another game.  Download Chips
Challenge from: http://www.freewebs.com/chipshome/chips.html

Run it in Wine and the background music won't play (have to enable it in the
options menu in the game), but the sound effects work (lol - the opposite
problem described for the lemmix sound bug).

Hope that info helps fix sound issues in Wine.

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--- Comment #23 from Raymond  2010-08-30 02:12:27 CDT ---
may be the game use FM-synth ?

WINEDEBUG=+midi

you will need to use soft-synth ( timidity configured to use dmix or pulse ) if
your sound card does not has OPL2/OPL3 synth

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--- Comment #24 from David  2010-10-09 13:32:20 CDT ---
Bug still present in Wine 1.3.4

With regards to sound, the sound quality for Nestopia (awarded "Platinum" in
the AppDB) seems better under this newer version of Wine.

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--- Comment #25 from Jörg Höhle  2010-10-26 07:31:31 CDT ---
This issue about Lemmix is a strict duplicate of bug #22261.
Likely, every bug about WAVE_Open dwRet = MMSYSERR_ALLOCATED is.

Lemmix first calls a waveOutOpen with 6 buffers for the background music, then
uses PlaySound(SND_MEMORY|SND_ASYNC) to play sound effects.
This second use fails for Wine's ALSA and OSS drivers because they only support
a single output (dwUser is unused).
It works with the Core Audio driver for MacOS (since Ken Thomases patches in
October 2009).  Perhaps it would work with the non-official PulseAudio driver.

David, Chip's Challenge is an entirely different issue. It plays music using
MIDI.  Please file a new bug report about it because switching music on makes
my Ubuntu Intrepid system become very unresponsive after playing a few MIDI
notes, and C'C hangs for a couple of seconds every so often (no refresh of the
virtual window) - if you can reproduce that.  Killing PulseAudio helped produce
sound effects reliably, but playing music still causes too much trouble (using
Timidity, FluidSynth not tested).
Please don't file a bug report about MIDI without reading
http://wiki.winehq.org/MIDI first (e.g. does MIDI work at all on your machine?)

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--- Comment #26 from Raymond  2010-10-26 09:55:17 CDT ---
(In reply to comment #25)
> This issue about Lemmix is a strict duplicate of bug #22261.
> Likely, every bug about WAVE_Open dwRet = MMSYSERR_ALLOCATED is.
>
> Lemmix first calls a waveOutOpen with 6 buffers for the background music, then
> uses PlaySound(SND_MEMORY|SND_ASYNC) to play sound effects.
> This second use fails for Wine's ALSA and OSS drivers because they only support
> a single output (dwUser is unused).
> It works with the Core Audio driver for MacOS (since Ken Thomases patches in
> October 2009).  Perhaps it would work with the non-official PulseAudio driver.

the patch in bug#22226 is also wrong when your sound card does not support
hardware mixing

it won't work with winepulse since PA only support per application volume
instead of per voice volume control

unfortuately "winmm_test wave" did not really provide an audible test for two
waveopen concurrently

if you have hardware mixing sound card , it is possible to hack oss emulation
to support DSP_CAP_MULTI

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--- Comment #27 from Jörg Höhle  2010-10-27 09:33:56 CDT ---
> it is possible to hack oss

The Wine project does not need a hack, it needs somebody with some ALSA and/or
OSS knowledge and preferably access to machines with different sound cards to
sit down and write robust code to use several units, using dwUser for keying. 
It was done for MacOS' Core Audio last year, it can be done for ALSA and OSS.
I don't know whether Maarten Lankhorst's ongoing openal work would make such
effort futile.

David or some admin, please mark as duplicate (and possibly add the keyword
"source", as there's a URL for Lemmix' Delphi source code on the AppDB page).
I consider this issue a duplicate because it's about MMSYSERR_ALLOCATED being
returned from a second waveOutOpen.  The difference with the other application
is that this failure does not cause the app to crash or exit.

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--- Comment #28 from Austin English  2010-10-27 12:26:55 CDT ---
Dupe.

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 22261 ***

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--- Comment #29 from Austin English  2010-10-27 12:27:07 CDT ---
Closing.

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--- Comment #30 from Raymond  2010-10-27 18:49:56 CDT ---
(In reply to comment #27)
> > it is possible to hack oss
>
> The Wine project does not need a hack, it needs somebody with some ALSA and/or
> OSS knowledge and preferably access to machines with different sound cards to
> sit down and write robust code to use several units, using dwUser for keying. 
> It was done for MacOS' Core Audio last year, it can be done for ALSA and OSS.
> I don't know whether Maarten Lankhorst's ongoing openal work would make such
> effort futile.
>
> David or some admin, please mark as duplicate (and possibly add the keyword
> "source", as there's a URL for Lemmix' Delphi source code on the AppDB page).
> I consider this issue a duplicate because it's about MMSYSERR_ALLOCATED being
> returned from a second waveOutOpen.  The difference with the other application
> is that this failure does not cause the app to crash or exit.

just need to define DSP_CAP_MULTI since the code is already in

http://git.alsa-project.org/?p=alsa-kernel.git;a=blob;f=sound/core/oss/pcm_o...

your sound card support DSP_CAP_MULTI when it has more than one playback
subdevice

1929 #ifdef DSP_CAP_MULTI
1930         if (substream->stream == SNDRV_PCM_STREAM_PLAYBACK)
1931                 if (substream->pstr->substream_count > 1)
1932                         res |= DSP_CAP_MULTI;
1933 #endif

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--- Comment #31 from Raymond  2010-10-27 18:57:43 CDT ---
it is also used in wineoss.drv/audio.c to provide hardware secondary buffers

http://source.winehq.org/git/wine.git/?a=blob;f=dlls/wineoss.drv/audio.c

845 #ifdef DSP_CAP_MULTI    /* not every oss has this */
 846         /* check for hardware secondary buffer support (multi open) */
 847         if ((arg & DSP_CAP_MULTI) &&
 848             (ossdev->out_caps.dwSupport & WAVECAPS_DIRECTSOUND)) {
 849             TRACE("hardware secondary buffer support available\n");
 850 
 851             ossdev->ds_caps.dwMaxHwMixingAllBuffers = 16;
 852             ossdev->ds_caps.dwMaxHwMixingStaticBuffers = 0;
 853             ossdev->ds_caps.dwMaxHwMixingStreamingBuffers = 16;
 854 
 855             ossdev->ds_caps.dwFreeHwMixingAllBuffers = 16;
 856             ossdev->ds_caps.dwFreeHwMixingStaticBuffers = 0;
 857             ossdev->ds_caps.dwFreeHwMixingStreamingBuffers = 16;
 858         }

859 #endif

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--- Comment #32 from Raymond  2010-10-27 20:40:43 CDT ---
(In reply to comment #4)
> Does MMSYSERR_ALLOCATED make this a duplicate of bug #22261?
> I.e. Wine, like win95 AFAIK, only allows one winmm device open at any one time,
> while w2k and later use the WDM to perform mixing (dsound does too) -- yet the
> website mentions win98, are sound effects present on a win98 box?

if you look at ens1371 specification , the legacy subsystem support
soundblaster 16 , opl-fm emulation

so it does not need open waveout device twice, the midi is play using sb16 or
opl-fm emulation

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--- Comment #33 from Jörg Höhle  2010-10-28 09:27:52 CDT ---
Raymond wrote:
> so it does not need open waveout device twice, the midi is play using sb16

Lemmix does not use MIDI to play music. It uses waveOut. Hence it opens the
wave out device twice: once for background music, once for sound effects.
Chip's Challenge is different and uses MIDI.

The wineoss.drv code indeed looks buggy w.r.t. DSP_CAP_MULTI. It's weird that
dwFreeHwMixingAllBuffers is only ever incremented.  By contrast, winealsa.drv
doesn't even bother to set those.
> your sound card support DSP_CAP_MULTI when it [...]

I never understood why you talk so much about sound cards.  Wine and most apps
don't access them directly.  Instead they access things like ALSA's dmix or
whatever the system put in place as default gate.  Thus Wine apps using ALSA
should allow to create multiple audio out channels, because the OS supports it
(via dmix) even when the sound card may not.
OSS is different, but I don't know much about either of them, so I'll shut up
now.

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--- Comment #34 from Raymond  2010-11-03 08:32:28 CDT ---
(In reply to comment #25)
> This issue about Lemmix is a strict duplicate of bug #22261.
> Likely, every bug about WAVE_Open dwRet = MMSYSERR_ALLOCATED is.

The patch in 22261 actually freeze this game

This game can get both music and effect only using wineesd.drv but the no sound
after played a few level as the PA server was aborted

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--- Comment #35 from Jörg Höhle  2010-11-12 08:17:41 CST ---
A freeze is no surprise.  That patch is a hack to get past a particular error
and see whether Wine chokes on something else later.

What the patch does is similar to having OpenFile yield the one same file
handle for all files!  Doing so will clearly crash very soon.  It is by no
means a functional patch.

BTW, bug #19523 can also be considered a duplicate of that matter.

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--- Comment #36 from Jörg Höhle  2010-11-17 12:34:20 CST ---
David,
It may not be necessary to file a bug report about Chip's Challenge any more.

Given today's commit 129778803ec4a72e05665acee761da0d0c461efa
(+ the part of the preceding commit that moves setting MCI_MODE_STOP prior to
sending out the notification in the MCI player) that app now works well enough
with MIDI.  There are no more hangs in the menus when BGM is enabled.
MIDI music now plays when a level is started, as well as when resuming from a
pause with F3 or when the window lost focus.

However MIDI does not always play.  If that happens, move to another level and
it usually works.  You may still compare it with native: please file a *new*
bug if there, MIDI always works - every time.

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--- Comment #37 from David  2010-11-17 17:33:49 CST ---
(In reply to comment #36)
> David,
> It may not be necessary to file a bug report about Chip's Challenge any more.
>
> Given today's commit 129778803ec4a72e05665acee761da0d0c461efa
> (+ the part of the preceding commit that moves setting MCI_MODE_STOP prior to
> sending out the notification in the MCI player) that app now works well enough
> with MIDI.  There are no more hangs in the menus when BGM is enabled.
> MIDI music now plays when a level is started, as well as when resuming from a
> pause with F3 or when the window lost focus.
>
> However MIDI does not always play.  If that happens, move to another level and
> it usually works.  You may still compare it with native: please file a *new*
> bug if there, MIDI always works - every time.

Thank you for responding.

I'm not an expert at the Wine and Linux stuff, so please accept that I'm
submitting bug reports as a "newbie" who uses the software.  I have no
technical knowledge such as "today's commit
129778803ec4a72e05665acee761da0d0c461efa" - whatever that means??

If I discover a problem with something running under Wine, I will file a bug
report, but these bug reports are too technical for newbies like me.
Cheers.

[Bug 22880] Lemmix sound effects are missing

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22880

--- Comment #38 from Raymond  2010-11-17 18:38:10 CST ---
cannot find any .mid file in LemmixPlayer 's source code

There are amiga .mod file which can be played by timidity and this sound like
those background music

It seem that dephi 's TMusic converted the background music to pcm

[Bug 22880] Lemmix sound effects are missing

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22880

--- Comment #39 from Raymond  2010-12-07 07:09:55 CST ---
(In reply to comment #27)
> David or some admin, please mark as duplicate (and possibly add the keyword
> "source", as there's a URL for Lemmix' Delphi source code on the AppDB page).
> I consider this issue a duplicate because it's about MMSYSERR_ALLOCATED being
> returned from a second waveOutOpen.  The difference with the other application
> is that this failure does not cause the app to crash or exit.

Lemmix also have both sound effect and musicj using winepulse, but the quality
is not as good as wineesd

so this is definitely a bug in winealsa

[Bug 22880] Lemmix sound effects are missing

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22880

--- Comment #40 from Raymond  2010-12-12 05:51:11 CST ---
(In reply to comment #25)
> This issue about Lemmix is a strict duplicate of bug #22261.
> Likely, every bug about WAVE_Open dwRet = MMSYSERR_ALLOCATED is.
>
> Lemmix first calls a waveOutOpen with 6 buffers for the background music, then
> uses PlaySound(SND_MEMORY|SND_ASYNC) to play sound effects.
> This second use fails for Wine's ALSA and OSS drivers because they only support
> a single output (dwUser is unused).
> It works with the Core Audio driver for MacOS (since Ken Thomases patches in
> October 2009).  Perhaps it would work with the non-official PulseAudio driver.

Yes, Lemmix work with non-official winepulse driver too

I have modified winealsa.drv to enable multiple waveoutopen for those alsa
drivers which support hardmixing and Lemmix seem also work with plug:dmix too

**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: au8830 [Aureal Vortex au8830], device 0: AU88x0 ADB [adb]
  Subdevices: 31/32

static DWORD wodOpen(WORD wDevID, WINE_WAVE_VOICE **pInstance,LPWAVEOPENDESC
lpDesc, DWORD dwFlags)
{
    WINE_WAVEDEV*            wwo;
...

wwo = &WOutDev[wDevID];
    v = 0;
    while (( wwo->voice[v].pcm != NULL ) && ( v < MAX_ALSA_VOICE ))
        v++;

if ( v >= MAX_ALSA_VOICE ) {
        WARN("more than %d voices for device %s\n", MAX_ALSA_VOICE ,
wwo->pcmname);
        return MMSYSERR_ALLOCATED;
    };
    voice=&wwo->voice[v];

...

flags = SND_PCM_NONBLOCK;

if ( (err = snd_pcm_open(&pcm, wwo->pcmname, SND_PCM_STREAM_PLAYBACK,
flags)) < 0)
    {
        ERR("Error open: %s\n", snd_strerror(err));
    return MMSYSERR_ALLOCATED;
    }

...

*pInstance = voice;
    return wodNotifyClient(voice, WOM_OPEN, 0L, 0L);

errexit:

...

}

DWORD WINAPI ALSA_wodMessage(UINT wDevID, UINT wMsg, DWORD_PTR dwUser,
                             DWORD_PTR dwParam1, DWORD_PTR dwParam2)
{
    WINE_WAVE_VOICE *voice = (WINE_WAVE_VOICE *)dwUser;

case WODM_OPEN:         return wodOpen        (wDevID, (WINE_WAVE_VOICE
**)dwUser,(LPWAVEOPENDESC)dwParam1,    dwParam2);

...

[Bug 22880] Lemmix sound effects are missing

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22880

--- Comment #41 from Raymond  2010-12-21 21:49:21 CST ---
Created an attachment (id=32584)
 --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=32584)
waveout.c - support multiple waveoutopen for hardware mixing device or dmix

Tested with emu10k1 and au8830

Please read the remark inside the program

[Bug 22880] Lemmix sound effects are missing

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22880

--- Comment #42 from Wylda  2010-12-22 00:41:45 CST ---
> waveout.c - support multiple waveoutopen for hardware mixing device or dmix

If this contain some changes (i'm not a programmer), is definitely better to
attach only the changes in standardized form like:

diff -u waveout.c.orig waveout.c.new > waveout.patch

and attach this patch here and send it to wine-patches (patches are not picked
up from bugzilla).

[Bug 22880] Lemmix sound effects are missing

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22880

--- Comment #43 from Raymond  2010-12-26 23:46:20 CST ---
forget to mention that you need to use "front" device for playback if you are
using snd-emu10k1 since it can play stereo to "front" or "rear" jack and
"hw:0,0" cannot be used as playback device for snd-emu10k1 anymore

if your linux distribution override the definition of "default" device

add the following enty in your .asoundrc

pcm.wine {
    type 
    asym
    playback.pcm "front:0"
    capture.pcm  "plughw:0,0"
}

http://wiki.winehq.org/UsefulRegistryKeys

AutoScanCards="N"
DeviceCount="1"
DevicePCM1="wine"
DeviceCTL1="hw:0"
UseDirectHW="N"

[Bug 22880] Lemmix sound effects are missing

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22880

--- Comment #44 from Raymond  2011-03-04 18:20:28 CST ---
Created an attachment (id=33532)
 --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=33532)
wineoss.drv/audio.c - support multiple waveoutopen

This is similar to 32584 winealsa.drv/waveout.c , use WINE_WAVE_VOICE instead
of WINE_WAVEOUT to allow multiple waveoutopen

It does not need DSP_CAP_MULTI to be defined,

as long as your sound cards allow you to run more than one instances of
"mplayer -ao oss any.wav" in ALSA OSS kernel emulation

unfortunately SB Live! emu10k1 does not work in oss emulation anymore because
of routing, only a few sound sound support this feature (e.g. au88x0 ,

[Bug 22880] Lemmix sound effects are missing

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22880

--- Comment #45 from David  2011-07-27 07:04:27 CDT ---
Good news!
The sound effects now work in Lemmix using Wine version 1.3.25. :)

Looks like this bug has been fixed.

[Bug 22880] Lemmix sound effects are missing

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22880

--- Comment #46 from Raymond  2011-09-08 09:25:26 CDT ---
(In reply to comment #45)
> Good news!
> The sound effects now work in Lemmix using Wine version 1.3.25. :)
>
> Looks like this bug has been fixed.

No, sound are broken when playing 0.45 seconds mono U8 10101 Hz "YIPPEE.WAV"
for 9 times when 9 lemmings arrive in less than 2 seconds with the background
Music

http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28060#c7

each time one of the lemmings go into the home - needs a new bug report.  This
problem is really noticeable when the release rate is 99 and the lemmings are
closest to each other.