Module: website Branch: master Commit: 5d77e2fd6ee96ab250d128326a9790336306acc5 URL: http://source.winehq.org/git/website.git/?a=commit;h=5d77e2fd6ee96ab250d1283...
Author: Zachary Goldberg zgs@seas.upenn.edu Date: Mon Dec 3 00:22:08 2007 -0500
Fwd: Wine Weekly Newsletter
Jeremy,
Attached is the output of the command "git diff origin". Please let me know if this will work for you.
Thanks very much! --Zach
On Nov 30, 2007 2:08 PM, Zachary Goldberg zgs@seas.upenn.edu wrote:
Sounds good to me :)
On Nov 30, 2007 1:45 PM, Jeremy Newman jnewman@codeweavers.com wrote:
OK, I may not get to apply it until Monday morning. I usually only apply patches when I'm in the office. 9-5 CST M-F
Zachary Goldberg wrote:
Aha! Found the other git tree, website.git. Will send you a patch sunday night?
On Nov 30, 2007 12:11 PM, Zachary Goldberg zgs@seas.upenn.edu wrote:
Jeremy,
So I'm cloning the git tree to my local pc as we speak. I'm guessing that WineHQ itself is in the git somewhere, i'll commit my new files and then email you a patch?
--Zach
On Nov 27, 2007 10:25 AM, Jeremy Newman jnewman@codeweavers.com wrote:
Hello Zack, good to have someone taking on this task.
Brian did most of the grunt work on this. I simply applied his patches to my working tree, and did a simple check to make sure the XML was valid. If it looked OK, I committed it.
These days we have switched the Website over to Git. I usually will only accept patches in git format. You may want to read up on the Wiki on how to use Git. Since you are new to this gig, I will accept new issues just as they are.
Feel free to ask questions, I will help in any way that I can.
-newman
Zachary Goldberg wrote:
Mr. Newman,
Hi, I'm Zach. I've been in contact with Brian Vincent a bit these past few days and I've begun working on the WWN again. Just wanted to give you a heads up that the project has been picked up again. I expect to have a finished XML file for publishing for next Monday covering the past 2 weeks of devel (ish). In the future it was proposed to have a 'big wwn' to cover the lapsed months. The purpose of this email is just to touch base with you; let you know that stuff is going on and to request any information you may have that might be helpful in the writing or publishing process.
Thanks, Zach
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Brian Vincent brian.vincent@gmail.com Date: Nov 22, 2007 8:42 PM Subject: Re: Wine Weekly Newsletter To: Zachary Goldberg zgs@seas.upenn.edu Cc: Alex Waite awaite2@uiuc.edu
I finally got around to writing this and its a lot of random thoughts:
- The writing is simple. It's the markup that takes time. I used
to use some vi macros for it (I lost them, so they won't be of any help.)
- Legal stuff.. this one is kind of tricky, but it's rather
important. Wine walks a tightrope of legality and the sharks swimming underneath are a bunch of lawyers in Redmond. Make no mistake about it, there's a lot of Wine developers who worry about Microsoft. Now, Alexandre and Jeremy have done a fine, fine job of making sure the project doesn't infringe on any copyrights or violate the DMCA, etc. However, there's been developers in the past and there will be more in the future who are going to break the law. Maybe they'll copy Microsoft source code, maybe they'll disassemble code, or something else. These issues get brought up on the mailing list from time to time and sometimes even result in heated debate. Don't write about them. Please. Yes they're on a public mailing list, but the dirty laundry doesn't need to be aired in WWN. There was something in the draft thing Zach did similar to this.
- CodeWeavers really is a godsend for Wine. If it wasn't for them
the project would have gone nowhere a long time ago. Plus, Jeremy and company are just a genuinely nice group of people. I always tried to give them as much credit as they deserve.
- Write every day. I can't stress this enough. Don't try to sit
down and do a whole WWN at once. This is hard at first because you don't know which threads to pick. Later it gets easier because you can tell right from the first post which threads will go in WWN for the week and you can add to them slowly over a series of days.
- Picking threads - it takes a while to figure out which threads to
write about. Don't worry so much about it. Covering any thread is better than covering no threads.
- Be wary of any thread on the mailing list by someone new who says
something like, "I'm going to start working on Wine and I'm going to implement .Net". Big boasts often don't come true. This used to be much more of problem than it is now.
- Zach Brown used to run Kernel Traffic (kerneltraffic.org) and I'd
mail him each WWN for posting on that site as well. I don't think too many people read that site any more so I'm not sure how important that is. For that reason, you might want to consider dropping the <topic> tag.
- You don't need to include every sentence of every post. There's
more than a few times where I'd whittle a multi-paragraph email down to one sentence.
- Alexandre writes extremely dense sentences. If he responds to a
post, read it carefully because there's a good chance they're the two most important sentences in a thread.
- I almost never rewrote anyone's posts. Keep in mind the English
isn't the first language for most of Wine's developers. Some developers have excellent English while others don't. Only in a few extreme cases did I rewrite a sentence because I knew the developer didn't say what he meant to say. Early on I didn't correct spelling mistakes, later I started correcting the glaring errors. Francois Gouget will fix all the spelling problems for you anyway.
- Jeremy Newman is the webmaster for WineHQ. He can answer lots of
questions you might run into. jnewman@codeweavers.com
- Fridays are a great day to finish to finish an issue but a lousy
day to publish one. The mailing list is very much a Monday - Friday thing. Many threads start on a Monday and wrap up by the end of the week. It's really weird how regular that is. Friday sucks as a day to publish because less people will read that issue of WWN. You get a lot more readership if you publish on a Monday or a Thursday. I always found those days work best.
- Keep in mind what you're doing really has the potential to bring
in $$$ and new developers to the project. I used to always highlight threads that talked about projects that needed to be done. More than once someone would read WWN and think, "I know how to work on something like that, maybe I can contribute to the project."
- WWN seems really thankless and it's easy to get disillusioned
that no one reads it. It took me quite a few years to realize a lot of people really appreciate it. Most of the developers read it every week even though they're on the mailing list.
- It would be easy to collaborate on a WWN issue by simply letting
different people write different <section>'s each week. However, I had an idea - is there a way to use Google Docs to collaborate on such a thing?
Now for the nitty gritty on how I'd actually write an issue:
- I'd write each <section> separately and store them in separate
files. Look at the XML source and that'll make sense. Remember when I said all the work was in the markup?
- Then at the end of the week I'd run a script that downloaded the
mailing list, created the stats, and built the header for the XML file. It also tried to find some of the duplicate names in the stats and alert me to them as well as convert the Unicode names to ANSI.
- I'd usually write the first <section>, the News section, toward
the end of the week. It used to be fairly time consuming combing sites for news about Wine. It's a lot easier now - just go to Google News and search for "Wine Linux". It'll turn up everything you want to cover.
- Then I'd cat header file with all the <section> files. I'd run
the whole thing first through a program called 'tidy' to check if the XML was malformed. Then I'd run it all through xmllint after those mistakes were fixed. tidy gives easier to read output compared to xmllint. However, xmllint is extremely strict and follows the same standards required by the backend on WineHQ.
- All of WineHQ used to reside in CVS. Now it's in git. So I
really can't help you with how to commit to that because I never have. Ask jnewman@codeweavers.com for details. I used to directly commit to CVS, I'm sure the same can be done with git.
- A lot of times I'd start the next issue before the current one was
even out. It's useful to wait for threads to wrap up.
- I'll send another email from my shell account with all the scripts
I used to generate stats and build the XML header.
-Brian
On 10/26/07, Zachary Goldberg zgs@seas.upenn.edu wrote:
> Alex, > > Attached is ~20 minutes of working crawling this month's devel list > serv. Let me know your thoughts. > > --Zach > > On 10/26/07, Alex Waite awaite2@uiuc.edu wrote: > >> Sounds good to me. And don't worry, I understand what life is like in >> college; I'm a current student. We'll cover October and then proceed >> from there. >> >> ---Alex >> >> Zachary Goldberg wrote: >> >>> I completely agree and was contemplating this as I wrote my last e-mail. >>> >>> While I do see the value in covering all important things, I think >>> given that none of us has infinite time (even though you may think >>> college kids do =P) a comprehensive WWN since may might be hard. >>> However I propose the following: >>> >>> We begin WWN with the month of october, then continue weekly from there. >>> >>> Somewhere down the road, within the next couple weeks, we release a >>> 'special edition' WWN which covers late May June July August and >>> September. >>> >>> --Zach >>> > -- > Zachary Goldberg > Computer Science Major > School of Engineering at the University of Pennsylvania > Philadelphia PA > > >
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news/200712301.xml | 7 + wwn/wn20071203_333.xml | 495 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 2 files changed, 502 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
Diff: http://source.winehq.org/git/website.git/?a=commitdiff;h=5d77e2fd6ee96ab250d...
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Jeremy Newman