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Re: Wineconf 2004, otherwise known as...
by Ivan Leo Murray-Smith 04 Oct '03

04 Oct '03

> I think 2 days is good. Then it can be a weekend. Also, if Lionel lets us know when he's going snowboarding, we can try and avoid that period (Unless he's going from the 1th to the 30th). > > At the last Wineconf, we had a fair number of 'presentations', and > I think we might do better with a bit less of that, and a bit > more 'working sessions'. > > My pet idea was to have an 'installfest', > perhaps the night before, where we brought a stack of CDs and > had Aric and Marcus and all other install experts work feverishly > to get as many of them as possible to install. Install for who? I do want to try and get this thing together, I can let you know for sure by Monday of Tuesday, by then I can also figure out what the costs will be. BTW, are you in visiting anything interesting like Pompei, or do you want to stay in the hotel during all the conference?

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Re: Check before adding http:// in HTTP_DealWithProxy
by Andreas Mohr 04 Oct '03

04 Oct '03

Hi, On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 03:34:58PM +0200, Uwe Bonnes wrote: > Changelog: > dlls/wininet/http.c: HTTP_DealWithProxy() > Only add http:// to proxy string when needed > -- > Uwe Bonnes bon(a)elektron.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de > > Institut fuer Kernphysik Schlossgartenstrasse 9 64289 Darmstadt > --------- Tel. 06151 162516 -------- Fax. 06151 164321 ---------- > Index: wine/dlls/wininet/http.c > =================================================================== > RCS file: /home/wine/wine/dlls/wininet/http.c,v > retrieving revision 1.42 > diff -u -r1.42 http.c > --- wine/dlls/wininet/http.c 25 Sep 2003 20:25:22 -0000 1.42 > +++ wine/dlls/wininet/http.c 4 Oct 2003 13:31:53 -0000 > @@ -503,8 +503,12 @@ > UrlComponents.dwStructSize = sizeof UrlComponents; > UrlComponents.lpszHostName = buf; > UrlComponents.dwHostNameLength = MAXHOSTNAME; > - > - sprintf(proxy, "http://%s/", hIC->lpszProxy); > + > + if(strncmp(lpwhr->lpszPath, "http://", sizeof("http://") -1) == 0) Last time I checked (i.e. right now), HtTp was complete case insensitive in my browser... -- Microsoft prepares new round of .doc office format lock-in (just forget about OpenOffice/StarOffice .doc interoperability then, ok?) http://news.com.com/2100-1012_3-5069246.html

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Fw: About Explorer clone
by Martin Fuchs 04 Oct '03

04 Oct '03

Here is the complete mail... Hello, PETREOLLE Sylvain wrote: > Can your explorer clone be compiled with Wine sources and/or tools ? > I have both Windows 2000/XP with latest Cygwin / RedHat Linux environments > to test it. Yes, I have put a "Makefile.Wine" into CVS for compiling as Winelib application. Just put the explorer source into the directory "wine/programs/explorer" and use "make -f Makefile.Wine" zu build it. If it complains about a too old Makefile, issue an "touch Makefile". > Another point : Im not easy with ansi-related questions. > You give 2 versions of explorer into the binary snapshot on your website. > What are the differences between them ? The ANSI version "explorer-ansi.exe" doesn't use Unicode strings. You can use it instead of "explorer.exe" on older systems such as Win 98. To compile the Unicode version add "UNICODE=1" to the make command line. > Both are randomly crashing on my W200 Pro when browsing the Start menu, > which makes me want to have a debug version to see where the crash occurs. If you find out, what causes the crash in your installation, you can inform me of it. My explorer implementation is currently far from complete. The TODO list is growing steadyly. ;-) Martin

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Where to deal with CRLF in Files retrieved with HTTP
by Uwe Bonnes 04 Oct '03

04 Oct '03

Hallo, Xilinx ISE 6.1 webupdate retrieves files per http. These files are CRLF terminated and some of their contend is treated as strings as target for the next HTTP request. This leads to a request like 0014:Call wininet.HttpOpenRequestA(42f6eeb0,1002a268 "GET", 438e17be "/direct/swhelp/series6/6.1i_latestservicepack.dat\r",... ^^ The \r at the end of the string results in the file not found on the server. Running with native wininet results in the same error. Who is responsible for stripping the \r? Bye -- Uwe Bonnes bon(a)elektron.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de Institut fuer Kernphysik Schlossgartenstrasse 9 64289 Darmstadt --------- Tel. 06151 162516 -------- Fax. 06151 164321 ----------

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Re: Uninstaller uses wrong icon
by Dimitrie O. Paun 04 Oct '03

04 Oct '03

On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, Pavel Roskin wrote: > I drew an icon more appropriate for the uninstaller. Also, the bin2res > tag has been added to make it easier to replace of the icon later. Please see the latest changes relating to the BINRES tags --> the resources are commented out, and we refer to the filename. See current sources for details. -- Dimi.

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Crash in 16-bit code
by andrejoh＠c2i.net 04 Oct '03

04 Oct '03

This crash happens when trying to run the installer of a game; I believe it is some old InstallShield version. Any ideas of how I can get more information out of this? The output below is from starting the installer in winedbg: No debug information in 32bit DLL 'C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\WINMM.DLL' (0x41280000) Loaded debug information from ELF '/home/andrej/local/wine/lib/wine/mmsystem.dll.so' (0x41268000) No debug information in 32bit DLL 'C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\WINEOSS.DRV' (0x412e0000) Loaded debug information from ELF '/home/andrej/local/wine/lib/wine/wineoss.drv.so' (0x412cd000) err:wave:OSS_WaveOutInit /dev/mixer1: No such device err:wave:OSS_WaveInInit /dev/mixer1: No such device No debug information in 32bit DLL 'C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MSACM32.DLL' (0x41330000) Loaded debug information from ELF '/home/andrej/local/wine/lib/wine/msacm.drv.so' (0x41307000) Loaded debug information from ELF '/home/andrej/local/wine/lib/wine/msacm32.dll.so' (0x4131e000) No debug information in 32bit DLL 'C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MSACM.DRV' (0x41310000) No debug information in 32bit DLL 'C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MIDIMAP.DRV' (0x41460000) Loaded debug information from ELF '/home/andrej/local/wine/lib/wine/midimap.drv.so' (0x41450000) First chance exception: page fault in 16-bit code (0267:00c9). In 16-bit mode. Register dump: CS:0267 SS:026f DS:026f ES:026f FS:0000 GS:0000 IP:00c9 SP:43da BP:0000 FLAGS:0246( - 00 I Z- -P1 ) AX:0300 BX:002f CX:0000 DX:1001 SI:0348 DI:001a Stack dump: 0x026f:0x43da: 0000 0000 008f 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0x026f:0x43ea: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0x026f:0x43fa: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0x026f:0x440a: 004d: sel=026f base=40591ea0 limit=0000641f 16-bit rw- Backtrace: =>0 0x0267:0x00c9 (bp=0000) 0x0267:0x00c9: int $0x31 The below is the output when running through wine; the debugger is started, but then hangs: fixme:cdrom:CDROM_GetInterfaceInfo CD-ROM device (11, 0) not supported err:wave:OSS_WaveOutInit /dev/mixer1: No such device err:wave:OSS_WaveInInit /dev/mixer1: No such device wine: Unhandled exception (thread 000a), starting debugger... fixme:cdrom:CDROM_GetInterfaceInfo CD-ROM device (11, 0) not supported WineDbg starting on pid 8 Loaded debug information from ELF 'wine' ((nil)) Breakpoint 1 at 0x4000cf70 (_end+0x400b824) Loaded debug information from ELF '/home/andrej/local/wine/lib/libntdll.dll.so' (0x40017000) Loaded debug information from ELF '/home/andrej/local/wine/lib/libwine.so.1' (0x400aa000) Loaded debug information from ELF '/home/andrej/local/wine/lib/libwine_unicode.so.1' (0x400c1000) No debug information in ELF '/lib/tls/libpthread.so.0' (0x401c8000) No debug information in ELF '/lib/tls/libm.so.6' (0x401d6000) No debug information in ELF '/lib/libdl.so.2' (0x401f8000) No debug information in ELF '/lib/ld-linux.so.2' (0x40000000) Loaded debug information from ELF '/home/andrej/local/wine/lib/wine/kernel32.dll.so' (0x401fd000) Loaded debug information from ELF '/home/andrej/local/wine/lib/wine/winevdm.exe.so' (0x40640000) Loaded debug information from ELF '/home/andrej/local/wine/lib/wine/winedos.dll.so' (0x40873000) Loaded debug information from ELF '/home/andrej/local/wine/lib/wine/user32.dll.so' (0x408c8000) Loaded debug information from ELF '/home/andrej/local/wine/lib/wine/gdi32.dll.so' (0x409f3000) Loaded debug information from ELF '/home/andrej/local/wine/lib/wine/advapi32.dll.so' (0x40a69000) No debug information in ELF '/usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6' (0x40aa9000) Loaded debug information from ELF '/home/andrej/local/wine/lib/wine/x11drv.dll.so' (0x40afa000) No debug information in ELF '/usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6' (0x401b4000) No debug information in ELF '/usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6' (0x40b64000) No debug information in ELF '/usr/X11R6/lib/libXv.so.1' (0x401c1000) No debug information in ELF '/usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6' (0x40522000) No debug information in ELF '/usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6' (0x40b7b000) No debug information in ELF '/usr/lib/tls/libGL.so.1' (0x40c5a000) No debug information in ELF '/usr/lib/tls/libGLcore.so.1' (0x40cc5000) No debug information in ELF '/usr/X11R6/lib/libXcursor.so.1' (0x40654000) No debug information in ELF '/usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so.1' (0x41242000) No debug information in ELF '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/lib/common/xlcDef.so.2' (0x401bd000) No debug information in ELF '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/lib/common/ximcp.so.2' (0x4124a000) No debug information in ELF '/usr/lib/gconv/ISO8859-1.so' (0x4065d000) Loaded debug information from ELF '/home/andrej/local/wine/lib/wine/mmsystem.dll.so' (0x41268000) Loaded debug information from ELF '/home/andrej/local/wine/lib/wine/wineoss.drv.so' (0x412cd000) Loaded debug information from ELF '/home/andrej/local/wine/lib/wine/msacm.drv.so' (0x41307000) Loaded debug information from ELF '/home/andrej/local/wine/lib/wine/msacm32.dll.so' (0x4131e000) Loaded debug information from ELF '/home/andrej/local/wine/lib/wine/midimap.drv.so' (0x41450000) No debug information in 32bit DLL 'D:\Setup.exe' (0x40650000) No debug information in 32bit DLL 'C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\NTDLL.DLL' (0x40040000) No debug information in 32bit DLL 'C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\KERNEL32.DLL' (0x40230000) No debug information in 32bit DLL 'C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\ADVAPI32.DLL' (0x40a80000) No debug information in 32bit DLL 'C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\GDI32.DLL' (0x40a10000) No debug information in 32bit DLL 'C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\USER32.DLL' (0x408f0000) No debug information in 32bit DLL 'C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\WINEDOS.DLL' (0x40880000) No debug information in 32bit DLL 'C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\X11DRV.DLL' (0x40b10000) No debug information in 32bit DLL 'C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\WINMM.DLL' (0x41280000) No debug information in 32bit DLL 'C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\WINEOSS.DRV' (0x412e0000) No debug information in 32bit DLL 'C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MSACM32.DLL' (0x41330000) No debug information in 32bit DLL 'C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MSACM.DRV' (0x41310000) No debug information in 32bit DLL 'C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MIDIMAP.DRV' (0x41460000) Unhandled exception: page fault on read access to 0x000000bc in 32-bit code (0x4089f3ab). In 32-bit mode. -- Try Anarchy Online http://www.anarchy-online.com/content/downloads/tryout/ Netiquette guidelines ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc1855.txt How to quote properly http://www.i-hate-computers.demon.co.uk/ Hvordan sitere riktig http://home.online.no/~vidaandr/news/OBSquoting.html

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About Explorer clone
by PETREOLLE Sylvain 04 Oct '03

04 Oct '03

Hi Martin, Can your explorer clone be compiled with Wine sources and/or tools ? I have both Windows 2000/XP with latest Cygwin / RedHat Linux environments to test it. Another point : Im not easy with ansi-related questions. You give 2 versions of explorer into the binary snapshot on your website. What are the differences between them ? Both are randomly crashing on my W200 Pro when browsing the Start menu, which makes me want to have a debug version to see where the crash occurs. Cordialement, PETREOLLE Sylvain #DMIT/DATO/OPS (exploit(a)gefco.fr ) +33 (0)1 49 05 29 29 Say NO to software patents in Europe! Dites NON aux brevets logiciels!

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Re: patch for font glyph transformation in freetype.c
by Dmitry Timoshkov 04 Oct '03

04 Oct '03

<Dave_Belanger(a)cimmetry.com> wrote: > + /* Extra transformation specified by caller */ > + if (lpmat) { > + FT_Matrix extraMat; > + extraMat.xx = FT_FixedFromFIXED(lpmat->eM11); > + extraMat.xy = FT_FixedFromFIXED(lpmat->eM12); > + extraMat.yx = FT_FixedFromFIXED(lpmat->eM21); > + extraMat.yy = FT_FixedFromFIXED(lpmat->eM22); My tests show that Windows and Freetype disagree about diagonal elements of the transformation matrix. In order to make it work like in Windows we need to reverse the xy/yx assignment: extraMat.xy = FT_FixedFromFIXED(lpmat->eM21); extraMat.yx = FT_FixedFromFIXED(lpmat->eM12); P.S. Dave, thanks for your great work! I'm just curious, what kind of application you are trying to run under Wine? -- Dmitry.

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Wineconf 2004 addendum
by Marcel Partap 04 Oct '03

04 Oct '03

Forgot to mention: the Maastricht airport is just some 20km away and (the much bigger) Duesseldorf International airport is a one hour train trip. So connectivity is good. Also it is really very central europe, just have a look... And.. yeah Aachen is a town with histoy (ex kaiser residence and stufF) and has the highest pub/population ratio in Germany AFAIK. And there are some other nice places for geeks to have a good night out. -- NEU FÜR ALLE - GMX MediaCenter - für Fotos, Musik, Dateien... Fotoalbum, File Sharing, MMS, Multimedia-Gruß, GMX FotoService Jetzt kostenlos anmelden unter http://www.gmx.net +++ GMX - die erste Adresse für Mail, Message, More! +++

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Wineconf 2004
by Marcel Partap 04 Oct '03

04 Oct '03

Hi folks, I'd propose Aachen, Germany as meeting location. I am a student (mec. engineering) at the local technical university and depending on the amound of work involved I'd be very happy to get things up and going for you. There is quite cheap hotel room in Aachen (and I can do some research on that aswelll) and our university has the main buildings right in the city which can provide conference space. There are regularly taking place conferences (science and industry, mostly) and so in the biggest lectures hall in the Karman auditorium. The place has networking installed, and although the WLAN has not too great coverage I guess there's possibilities to come around that (1 or 2 additional WAPs, probably). Aachen is a nice 250.000 town, it's close to the three country triangle Belgium-Germany-Netherlands. This link should take you to exactly where I live, so that you have a clue: http://www.map24.de/map24/index.php3?map24_sid=fa541345f91b5449798dade7ad71… It'd be winter weather though, so > Long underwear and Parkas (and don't forget to bring a towel..), probably a slide (if this does became a real winter) Would be glad if I could help out, just get back to me. regards, Marcel Partap P.S.: cc me! P.P.S.: My HP is http://www.synth-worldz.de, just in case. -- NEU FÜR ALLE - GMX MediaCenter - für Fotos, Musik, Dateien... Fotoalbum, File Sharing, MMS, Multimedia-Gruß, GMX FotoService Jetzt kostenlos anmelden unter http://www.gmx.net +++ GMX - die erste Adresse für Mail, Message, More! +++

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Re: misc sanity checks in freetype.c
by Dmitry Timoshkov 04 Oct '03

04 Oct '03

<Dave_Belanger(a)cimmetry.com> wrote: > @@ -1956,13 +1960,20 @@ > needed = sizeof(*potm); > > lenfam = (strlenW(font->name) + 1) * sizeof(WCHAR); > + if (!lenfam) { > + /* No family name. How can we select that font? */ > + ret = 0; > + goto end; > + } lenfam can't be 0 due to + 1 here. -- Dmitry.

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RE: Implementation of GetCompressedFileSize[AW]
by PETREOLLE Sylvain 03 Oct '03

03 Oct '03

Pavel, I already tried to have some results with the keyboard implementation. A simple DOS program that calls int16 to do a 'Press any key' doesnt work today and needs wineconsole to operate (and only with user backend !) > > Yes, it works. Thank you! But I think that interactive programs > using stdin and stdout should be useful without wineconsole. stdin should > not be closed, and of course the programs should not think that it's COM1. > But I think we'll need to look at Cygwin sources to know what each side > thinks about the other side. I will download the bash sources and try to write to the Cygwin mailing list if they can give some help. > That almost certainly requires a closer look at Cygwin sources. My guess > their implementation of fork() may be OS specific and full of workarounds, > especially for Win9x. I updated the bug 443 on Bugzilla. Could the Fun projects page be updated too ? PETREOLLE Sylvain #DMIT/DATO/OPS (exploit(a)gefco.fr ) +33 (0)1 49 05 29 29 Say NO to software patents in Europe! Dites NON aux brevets logiciels!

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Re: uxtheme.dll
by Ivan Leo Murray-Smith 03 Oct '03

03 Oct '03

>Going along that path, one possible way to integrate theme support from your >native window manager is to extend the .msstyles theme format to enable using >exported functions for drawing some controls, which could then make direct >GTK/etc calls. I don't think Alexandre will like the idea of wine having new dependencies, like GTK.

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IMPORTANT WWN ERROR
by Ivan Leo Murray-Smith 03 Oct '03

03 Oct '03

>I'm filing this thread under the topic "Ports", which is rather odd. Originally this thread started about a week ago when >Ivan Leo Murray-Smith dropped a note discussing some work he'd done: I did not write the script, and that email wasn't from me, I just compiled the wine programs and put the binaries on sourceforge, >Its main goal is to recover from last night's bachelor party. Be sure you've recovered 100% before writing WWN!

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Re: Uninstaller uses wrong icon
by Andreas Mohr 03 Oct '03

03 Oct '03

Hi, On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 04:55:17PM -0400, Pavel Roskin wrote: > Hello! > > programs/uninstaller uses the icon from WineMine. I'm not an artist, but > I drew an icon more appropriate for the uninstaller. Also, the bin2res > tag has been added to make it easier to replace of the icon later. > > ChangeLog: > * programs/uninstaller/rsrc.rc: > Use an icon more appropriate for the uninstaller. Thanks! :-) When faced with the very burdensome task of writing uninstaller, I suddenly grew too lazy to design my own icon, so I just hijacked the very first icon that managed to not move out of my way ;-) -- Express yourself against the .com/.net misspelled domain names insanity NOW! Infamous domain operator VeriSign breaks numerous important internet standards!! http://www.petitiononline.com/icanndns/ http://www.haque.net/verisign_dns_rant.php

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uxtheme.dll
by Kevin 03 Oct '03

03 Oct '03

I started work porting a windows app using winelib, and hit an issue relating to the fact that there is currently no implementation of uxtheme.dll (and more importantly, no headers, of which would be enough to compile the app as it dynamically loads all the uxtheme dlls as needed, and falls back gracefully) Because of this, I've been thinking about beginning an implementation of uxtheme.dll. I am curious if someone has already taken up this task, or if anyone any opinions on this topic. Thanks Kevin

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Re: Wineconf 2004, otherwise known as...
by Ivan Leo Murray-Smith 03 Oct '03

03 Oct '03

Hi list, What about Sorrento, there are good conference facilities, hotel rooms can cost as little as 60 euro per night, it's warm (temperature in between 10 and 20 C°), there a lot to see and to do(For example it's only twenty minutes from Pompei and fifteen from Capri) there is good transport, prices are low (It is south europe), I can get it organized if you don't want to go to siberia.

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Re: Implementation of GetCompressedFileSize[AW]
by Sylvain Petreolle 03 Oct '03

03 Oct '03

> FIXME about GetCompressedFileSizeA was too annoying when running Cygwin > programs, so I implemented it. The code uses st_blocks when possible to > account for sparse files and falls back to st_size if st_blocks is missing > in struct stat. The code uses shift operations so that both systems with > 32-bit and 64-bit off_t will do their best to provide accurate results. Works cool, but you could return INVALID_FILE_SIZE when the function fails. I patched it into win32/newfns.c for long time but never sent a patch. OT : Too bad that we dont have GetProcessMemoryInfo, this is what keeps cygwin programs unable to start into bash. ===== Sylvain Petreolle (spetreolle_at_users_dot_sourceforge_dot_net) ICQ #170597259 Say NO to software patents Dites NON aux brevets logiciels "What if tomorrow the War could be over ?" Morpheus, in "Reloaded". ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en français ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com

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Re: Wineconf 2004, otherwise known as...
by Ivan Leo Murray-Smith 03 Oct '03

03 Oct '03

> I think the key factor is not a place, but someone who is willing > to pull it all together. If you're saying you'll do that, Ivan, > I think folks would be interested. * A meeting space for 2 days My idea was a hotel, I understand you want something cheap, but a little conference room for 2 days won't cost too much, no schools here has broadband and I don't have any other ideas for a meeting place. I'll make enquiries tomorrow as hotels here don't have there congress teams in the afternoon, but we have international congresses here all the time. The only thing that may be missing is a wireless hub, but that can be solved easily before January. I hope the idea of a hotel is OK for you. * Arrangements for moderately price hotel rooms Not a problem in low season (And you can't go any lower than January) * Advice on transportation, which should be straightforward Not a problem, but remember this isn't a English speaking country. I can give very detailed indications, or we can have meet at the airport and come to Sorrento as a group * A meal or two, and drinks for at least one evening Not a problem if we're in a hotel * We'll have all CodeWeavers Wine hackers in town for the event You have to get them here * Free buttons for the St. Paul Winter Carnival: We don't have a winter carnival :-( I'm not a wine developer so you must let me know what you want to talk about and for how long, so we can agree on a schedule, let me know what else is needed.

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RE: question about copyright and code, is this legal?
by Patrik Stridvall 03 Oct '03

03 Oct '03

> On October 3, 2003 09:07 am, Patrik Stridvall wrote: > > As far as Wine is concerned though I can't think of > > any Windows API that: > > 1. Returns pure facts (not having any unique expression) > > 2. Would fulfill the requirement of needed a significant > > effort to collect to collect the fact. > > > > So no I wouldn't worry about it as far as Wine is concerned. > > So, you think that: > > For all x,y in Unicode: > print x,y,strcmpiA(x,y) > > is OK? Short answer: Yes. Long answer: In the US, it is clearly legal. See Feist. In the other countries meantioned (Commonwealth etc), well 1. I can't see that any significant effort have made to collect these facts. Each of these facts is very easy to collect for anybody competent in any language that Unicode defines the alphabet for. 2. Unicode comparison order lies more in the area of algoritms and science than any facts about the world that the law have been designed to protected, so courts at least in Sweden would be very reluctant to extend to the law to this since it is doubtful that the lawmakers really intended this.

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Re: Wineconf 2004, otherwise known as...
by Jeremy White 03 Oct '03

03 Oct '03

On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 08:41, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote: > On October 3, 2003 05:24 am, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > > Dimi and Ivan like 6. > > I like 1 (Minneapolis, US) as well. Another option folks > would be Toronto. It will not be hot in Jan, but it's > kind of in the middle (it's almost same distance from > West Coast, as it is from England), it's a major air hub > (so you can probably get direct flights, which is good), > and we have all sorts of conferences going on here. > Good network connectivity, night life, great food, > CN Tower, etc. And I can organize it. I spent months hoping someone will volunteer to help organize this in a place that is centrally located. I finally give up, and announce, and now we have 3 others offers to help!?!?!?!? There is clearly only one appropriate response to this situation: I've decided I'm going to write a DIB engine, here in St. Paul. This is your last chance to stop me...<grin> Anyone else care to volunteer? Why don't we make a deadline for offering to host by Sunday night. I'll get a list of all the folks that are dead serious about being willing to do all the work of being a host, and then we'll put up a quick + dirty survey/voting form, and we'll go to the city that will get the best attendance. How does that sound? If this works, then everyone that is dead serious about being willing to host Wineconf needs to send me an email. I agree with Sachar that we need to resolve this quickly; I think January is a good time for Wineconf, and 3 months is not that much lead time. Cheers, Jeremy

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Re: question about copyright and code, is this legal?
by Ivan Leo Murray-Smith 03 Oct '03

03 Oct '03

I think it depends where you live. If you aren't copying any original code you aren't violating copyright. In the EU (This includes the UK so I doubt that this http://www.winehq.org/hypermail/wine-devel/2003/10/0076.html can apply to the UK), even if you disassemble something to understand how it works and write something that does the same thing, it's legal, so until you aren't doing copy/paste from the original code you're OK, even if you've read it to see how it works. In places where software patents are valid, you may be breaking the law, if that software is patented(DMCA?).

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Re: [dx85] vertex blend fixmes
by MichaelGuennewig＠gmx.de 03 Oct '03

03 Oct '03

Jason Edmeades <us(a)the-edmeades.demon.co.uk> writes: > Michael - This will silence those horrible fixmes about > worldmatrix(0..255) and vertex blend not being supported - We > incorrectly return support since the NVidia drivers dont claim support > for it, but DO return a number for the GL_MAX_VERTEX_UNITS_ARB (which > is only supported as far as I can tell, if arb_vertex_blend is > supported... weird). Does it help with the textures at all? Jeah, it works. Textures are present and it also doesn't crash anymore. Thank you. :-) Michael

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question about copyright and code, is this legal?
by Jonathan Wilson 03 Oct '03

03 Oct '03

Say I have a piece of code, x (which is copyright) which always returns the same output for a given input (e.g. a function that implements a math formula or a function that retrieves some value from an internal data table stored in the dll or whatever) Lets then say that I havent seen this code (either origonal C code or disassembly) Say I was to write a program that calls this function for all valid inputs and prints the inputs and outputs. If I was to take the output of this program and, without refering to the origonal function or the dump program in any way (i.e. using just the "truth table" for the function) generate a function that, for any given input, generates the same output as the original, have I broken the law?

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Re: Misc bugs found by using valgrind
by Shachar Shemesh 02 Oct '03

02 Oct '03

Michael Günnewig wrote: >Changelog: > Fixed use of uninitialized memory and wrong buffersize (found by valgrind). > > > Michael > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >--- dlls/avifil32/api.c.SAV 2003-09-20 16:14:45.000000000 +0200 >+++ dlls/avifil32/api.c 2003-09-20 14:46:10.000000000 +0200 >@@ -1009,7 +1009,7 @@ > szFilter[0] = 0; > szFilter[1] = 0; > >- wszFilter = (LPWSTR)GlobalAllocPtr(GHND, cbFilter); >+ wszFilter = (LPWSTR)GlobalAllocPtr(GHND, cbFilter * sizeof(WCHAR)); > if (wszFilter == NULL) > return AVIERR_MEMORY; > > What are we doing to prevent integer overflow on these allocations? Shouldn't we, perhaps, use some wrapper that checks that "cbFilter*sizeof(WCHAR)" is not greater than "MAXINT"? Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Open Source integration consultant Home page & resume - http://www.shemesh.biz/

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Regression testing framework
by Jakob Eriksson 02 Oct '03

02 Oct '03

The feature requests come in faster now and I also have less time to work on this stuff for the moment, so I release my little baby into the wild: Please apply: http://vmlinux.org/jakov/Wine/programs-winetest.tar.gz regards, Jakob

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Program won't run in debugger
by Shachar Shemesh 02 Oct '03

02 Oct '03

Hi all, I am trying to find out why Wine is not working with some closed application, and fix it. I have narrowed it down from the logs to something to do with MDI (Multiple Documents Interface). However - trying to connect with a debugger to the program causes the program to bomb quite bombastically. It appears that someone (ddd/gdb won't give me a stack frame, so I can only assume this is in the PE portion of the native application, rather than inside Wine) keeps calling STI and CLI (Set Interrupt and Clear Interrupt). This generates a segmentation fault (makes sense - this is priveleged command). If I do "cont", things continue (I can't vouch as to how long they do), but another sementation fault is right around the corner then. On the other hand, if I detach the debugger from the process, the process runs fine. I am at a loss as to what might be the cause. Is there any way to tell gdb to ignore the segmentation fault, and just let the builtin handler take care of it? Will using winedbg instead do me any good? On an unrelated note - I tried running valgrind-wine on the process. It complained right at the start that wine calls system vector 7 (waitpid), which is unsupported by valgrind. This seems odd to me, as this would suggest noone has ever ran valgrind successfully on wine. Implementing waitpid in valgrind produces even stranger result - it seems valgrind exists almost immedietly, while the main process continues onward. Anyone has similar experience with valgrind? Is there any need for me to submit my waitpid implementation? Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Open Source integration consultant Home page & resume - http://www.shemesh.biz/

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I/O port access broken (SEH broken)
by Andreas Mohr 02 Oct '03

02 Oct '03

Hi all, sounds like the recent architectural changes were a bit too much: now I get Unhandled exception: privileged instruction in 32-bit code (0x0040348b). In 32-bit mode. 0x0040348b (FT255_T32.exe..text+0x248b in FT255_T32.exe): outb %al,%dx Wine-dbg> with a parallel port flash tool I'm trying to use, whereas before it used to work with both direct I/O port access and ppdev. In other words: exception handling about I/O port access has been broken. Andreas Mohr

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Can I do this or does it get us into trouble?
by Bill Medland 02 Oct '03

02 Oct '03

I am trying to solve some focus problems I am having with Wine and I want to know just how far I can go without causing legal problems. The main problem is that under Windows a WM_KILLFOCUS is being sent during the processing of a WM_SETFOCUS message. However It doesn't appear to be being sent by any application code so I presume it is being sent by some Windows code. If I run the application under the Windows debugger, break in the WM_KILLFOCUS handler and do a stack trace to look for hints, and we use the resulting information then does that get us into trouble (since it is going to contain information about e.g. user32.dll)? Does anyone actually know? -- Bill Medland mailto:billmedland@mercuryspeed.com http://webhome.idirect.com/~kbmed

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XEN: Another virtual machine
by Uwe Bonnes 02 Oct '03

02 Oct '03

Hallo, http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/SRG/netos/xen/readmes/README sounds very promising for those interested in virtual machines. Bye -- Uwe Bonnes bon(a)elektron.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de Institut fuer Kernphysik Schlossgartenstrasse 9 64289 Darmstadt --------- Tel. 06151 162516 -------- Fax. 06151 164321 ----------

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Re: Wineconf 2004, otherwise known as...
by Ivan Leo Murray-Smith 02 Oct '03

02 Oct '03

March would be good, it's much nicer then, but any later than that and it will be packed with tourists (And prices will go up). The nearest airport is Naples, a train takes about an hour to get to Sorrento from there. For the EU there are direct connections, from the US and Canada you will probably have to get a flight to Rome, and then precede to Naples from there, it takes about twenty minutes. Comments from anybody planning to participate are welcome.

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dlls/user/tests/msg.c
by Gerald Pfeifer 02 Oct '03

02 Oct '03

After the creation of dlls/user/tests/msg.c I'm seeing the following msg.c:128: warning: `WmMouseMoveInNonClientAreaSeq' defined but not used msg.c:135: warning: `WmMouseMoveInClientAreaSeq' defined but not used msg.c:142: warning: `WmDragTitleBarSeq' defined but not used msg.c:154: warning: `WmDragThinkBordersBarSeq' defined but not used msg.c:183: warning: `WmClickInactiveButtonSeq' defined but not used msg.c:204: warning: `WmReparentButtonSeq' defined but not used msg.c:217: warning: `WmCreateModalDialogSeq' defined but not used msg.c:248: warning: `WmDestroyModalDialogSeq' defined but not used msg.c:271: warning: `WmCreateModalDialogResizeSeq' defined but not used when using GCC 3.3. Are you planning to address this, or should "static" be removed from these? Gerald -- Gerald Pfeifer (Jerry) gerald(a)pfeifer.com http://www.pfeifer.com/gerald/

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Translating WINE using dedicated tools
by Martin Quinson 02 Oct '03

02 Oct '03

[Please CC me, I'm not subscribed to this list] Hello, I've read in the last Wine KC that you are getting troubles to keep the translation of wine uptodate. I am pretty well involved in the translation of free software, and this is a common issue for all of us. It is so common that I did a program to deal easily with the translation of any kind of resource. This is called po4a (po for anything), and you can find more details about this on http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/po4a and http://www.nongnu.org/po4a/ . The idea is to ease the convertions resource -> po file and then po -> resource when the translation is done. So, checking if the translation is uptodate is as easy as used the dedicated tools of the gettext world. Po4a is fully modular, and all we have to do to let wine using it is a new (perl) module to parse it. You can find more details about how to do a module using `perldoc Locale::Po4a::TransTractor` once the program is installed. I would like to help here, but I need to know the gramar of the resource files. Do you have any parsers around there ? The better would be to have Perl based ones, since this is the language used in po4a. What do you guys think? Mt. [Please CC me, I'm not subscribed to this list] -- The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not "Eureka!" (I found it!) but "That's funny ..." --- Isaac Asimov

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Question about WineX licences
by Jonathan Wilson 02 Oct '03

02 Oct '03

From what I understand, if you download the WineX source tree, you get code under LGPL, code under X11 and code under APL (which is basicly a licence chosen to make sure that others cant just grab those bits and use them) Does anyone know which bits are under APL? I know the directx bits are but what else is TransGaming holding back?

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New winetests.exe
by Jakob Eriksson 02 Oct '03

02 Oct '03

New build of winetests.exe with tests from CVS 2003-10-02 http://vmlinux.org/~jakov/Wine/

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Fix for notepad and winecfg losing focus
by Pavel Roskin 01 Oct '03

01 Oct '03

Hello! Our notepad has a bug that causes it to lose focus on startup. In order to initialize the new document, WinMain() calls DIALOG_FileNew(), which focuses the editor subwindow. The problem is that it happens before ShowWindow() is called on the main window. As a result, focusing the subwindow causes "activation" of its parent without actually showing it. This leaves the code in dlls/user/focus.c in the confused state. When ShowWindow() is called, the window is not brought to foreground because it's "already active". Then set_active_window() decides to draw the inactive caption because the window is not in foreground. Windows 2000 doesn't show this problem. Notepad and winecfg are focused properly on startup. I think there are many solutions to this problem. For example, the check for visibility could be moved from SetActiveWindow() to the lower-level set_active_window(). The attached patch is minimally intrusive. This decreases its chances of breaking anything, but it may not be the best radical solution. If SetFocus() finds an invisible window while looking for the ultimate parent, it fails. The same is already done for minimized and disabled windows. The patch has been successfully tested in the non-managed and desktop modes. The managed node is not affected because the captions are not shown. Cygwin setup (http:/www.cygwin.com/setup.exe) is also positively affected. =========================== --- dlls/user/focus.c +++ dlls/user/focus.c @@ -258,6 +258,7 @@ HWND WINAPI SetFocus( HWND hwnd ) HWND parent; LONG style = GetWindowLongW( hwndTop, GWL_STYLE ); if (style & (WS_MINIMIZE | WS_DISABLED)) return 0; + if (!(style & WS_VISIBLE)) return 0; parent = GetAncestor( hwndTop, GA_PARENT ); if (!parent || parent == GetDesktopWindow()) break; hwndTop = parent; =========================== -- Regards, Pavel Roskin

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Does anyone know about WM_SETFOCUS and EN_SETFOCUS
by Bill Medland 01 Oct '03

01 Oct '03

Is anyone out there an expert in Windows focus handling? I have problems with our application and the focus handling in places. Basically it seems to me that there is some sort of logic in windows whereby the code calls PostMessage (WM_SETFOCUS) but the result is that the parent of the target window receives WM_COMMAND EN_SETFOCUS instead. Does anyone know anything about such translations? -- Bill Medland ACCPAC International, Inc. medbi01(a)accpac.com Corporate: www.accpac.com Hosted Services: www.accpaconline.com

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Re: Updated winetests.exe
by Ferenc Wagner 01 Oct '03

01 Oct '03

"Dimitrie O. Paun" <dpaun(a)rogers.com> writes: > On September 27, 2003 07:42 pm, Jakob Eriksson wrote: > >> Do you want a second file generated apart from the mail >> sent to wine-tests-report? (If yes, where should this >> file be sent?) > > I'm not sure I like this idea. Correlating the two files > is potentially problematic, the best thing is if we bundle > this information somehow into the report itself. This way > the results can be interpreted context-free, which is a > good thing. I did not like this idea either, but decided to go with it in the end. First, to generate summaries I have to correlate files anyway, which *is* problematic already, and having a master file could only make it simpler and also make the cause more obvious if some inconsistency is found. Second, we want to include build failure reports, which can be lengthy (eg. compiler logs), and do not seem to belong to the test results. For an example, see how the dsound test build failure is noted on the page. The summary line could also easily be customized. > Maybe we can simply add a flag to the tests so that the > first thing they do when we run them is to output all this > information How is it better than recording the info at the build stage? Since it has nothing to do with the running environment, that would also feel more natural to me. Sure, all the info could be included in the reports, but I see no point in bloating them with too much static info for little (if any) benefit. One more thing, I really do not have the faintest idea about how to integrate this into the WineHQ page. There may be reasons there, too, like eg. the need to notify the system about a new build, which could be done by uploading the information skeleton... Feel free to persuade me, I am not attached. Feri.

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linuxtag in Dresden, Germany
by Bernhard Beschow 01 Oct '03

01 Oct '03

Hi folks, is there anybody at the linuxtag in Dresden, Germany on Sat. October 18th 2003? I'd like to see you around. Bernhard

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ssl and kerberos
by Vincent Béron 01 Oct '03

01 Oct '03

I need some help with configure.ac. In RH8 and 9, openssl is compiled with krb5 support. The problem comes from the fact that the kerberos files are not under /usr/include, rather /usr/kerberos/include. So when ssl.h includes krb5.h, it can't find it. It'd need to be detected and add /usr/kerberos/include to the list of EXTRAINCL if compiling with only ssl.h is not enough. (I never noticed before because I had recompiled openssl locally to not use kerberos at all, and on the other machine I never looked that closely as everything is installed stock) Once that is fixed, it will trigger another bug in the kerberos part of openssl, namely that FAR is used, but we'll get to that bridge another time. Vincent

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Re: winealsa: improve sound quality for IDsDriverImpl
by Jerry Jenkins 01 Oct '03

01 Oct '03

> > If the behavior is subject to change, there is no way you can test > that at configure time. This needs to be a run time check. > You're right. So I put some code in configure.ac, try to compile & run it when configure is executed. If everything is OK, a macro will be defined in config.h.

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Re: Translating WINE using dedicated tools
by Ivan Leo Murray-Smith 01 Oct '03

01 Oct '03

> and winehq web site This is if Jeremy Newman wants to have the site translated. As I didn't want to translate anything before being sure it would be accepted I've emaild him various times to know if/how winehq should be translated, and I never got an answer.

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Re: Translating WINE using dedicated tools
by Ivan Leo Murray-Smith 01 Oct '03

01 Oct '03

Once wine has final docs this would be great, the wine docs will change before 1.0 (The wine-user docs are config-file orientated, and many other things may change before 1.0), the wine-devel docs don't really need translating as most developers know English, and the wine programs and dlls can be translated manually without any difficulty, but once we have a final version of wine user docs and winehq web site this tool could be very useful.

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Re: I/O port access broken (SEH broken)
by Uwe Bonnes 01 Oct '03

01 Oct '03

>>>>> "Andreas" == Andreas Mohr <andi(a)rhlx01.fht-esslingen.de> writes: Andreas> Hi all, sounds like the recent architectural changes were a bit Andreas> too much: now I get Andreas> Unhandled exception: privileged instruction in 32-bit code Andreas> (0x0040348b). In 32-bit mode. 0x0040348b Andreas> (FT255_T32.exe..text+0x248b in FT255_T32.exe): outb %al,%dx Wine-dbg> Andreas> with a parallel port flash tool I'm trying to use, whereas Andreas> before it used to work with both direct I/O port access and Andreas> ppdev. Andreas> In other words: exception handling about I/O port access has Andreas> been broken. Another related problem: I need inport/outport in some private VXD reimplementation too. The reimplementation resided in my win32/device.c file. Do I need to do LoadLibrary(winedos) GetProc(xxx,"Inport") in my code now? Bye -- Uwe Bonnes bon(a)elektron.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de Institut fuer Kernphysik Schlossgartenstrasse 9 64289 Darmstadt --------- Tel. 06151 162516 -------- Fax. 06151 164321 ----------

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Re: "Start menu" (continued ...)
by Rolf Kalbermatter 01 Oct '03

01 Oct '03

Robert van Herk <robert(a)robertvanherk.nl> >As I understand, right now there are various "standards" on how to write >menus for Linux, that are incompatible. That would mean that writing a >"grand unified ;-)" start menu client as I discussed before is currently >impossible. > >What could be made already though, is a Wine deamon that talks to >shell32.dll internally and input/outputs with pipes to some linux >client, in order to serve the start menu items. This would link the >Windows start menu to Linux, in a tidy way. So the idea is that the >Windows program's output could be piped to some Linux client that >actually creates the menu dynamically, so it stays in continuous >synchronization with your Start menu directory. > <snip> > >Would such a system be appreciated by the you people? Or do you think I >should wait untill a better standarization is available? Or do you think >creating a Windows deamon and a Linux client is too much overkill for >such a feature? > >Also, if this feature would be handy, does anyone have expirience with >the KPanelAppMenu? I can't get the thingy to work yet... Just a thought which may or may not be completely out of proportion: In which sense can Wine and native Desktop be easily synchronized? I see a number of problems such as who should synchronize to whom. Why make an arbitrary Unix desktop synchronize to a Wine start menu? Why not the other way around? Wine builds in all other areas on top of the existing Unix platform. Is it really useful to start to base the native Unix desktop on Wine? Or is this the first step in getting Wine as yet another Unix desktop into the picture? Also the Wine start menu will usually contain mostly Windows or Winelib apps, I suppose. The Unix desktop would have to treat those entries accordingly, makeing proper distinction between them and native unix apps/scripts or whatever which of course shouldn't be a real problem. Maybe this has been discussed already in depth and I missed it? Rolf Kalbermatter

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WWN back issues unavailable
by Ferenc Wagner 01 Oct '03

01 Oct '03

Hi, I am not sure whom to tell, that In the bottom of the WWN Back Issues page on WineHQ the "Next 12 Issues" link does not really work. Feri.

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Re: RtlGetVersionNumbers
by Alexandre Julliard 01 Oct '03

01 Oct '03

Jon Griffiths <jon_p_griffiths(a)yahoo.com> writes: > i don't know why this function was changed when it was moved, but it > breaks > some versions of msvcrt. This puts it back the way it was. There's no reason not to use the version that the user specified. If you are using XP native dlls and they break with a lower version, then you need to specify the Windows version as XP in your config file. -- Alexandre Julliard julliard(a)winehq.com

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Re: Start menu (especially for Alexandre Julliard)
by Dan Kegel 01 Oct '03

01 Oct '03

Francois Gouget wrote: > <rant> > The Linux desktop menus are a total mess. FreeDesktop came up with a > broken standard (vfolders) to 'unify' KDE and Gnome (which were already > pretty similar and relatively easy to work with). > > But what we need is a truly standard way to create menus for all desktop > environments on any Linux distribution. Something like the Debian > menuing system, maybe with improved support for internationalization and > other bells and whistles. > </rant> Well, as it happens, Debian appears to be embracing the FreeDesktop.org "Desktop Menu Specification" (http://www.freedesktop.org/Standards/menu-spec) at least judging by http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200304/msg00800.html Oh, and who's listed as one of the authors? A certain Francois... IMHO wine should stay far, far away from inventing anything new here, and simply obey the freedesktop.org menu spec (plus, perhaps, a legacy scheme or two until they die off). - Dan -- Dan Kegel http://www.kegel.com http://counter.li.org/cgi-bin/runscript/display-person.cgi?user=78045

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Re: PATCH: stop crashes in desktop mode
by Alexandre Julliard 30 Sep '03

30 Sep '03

Alex Pasadyn <ajp(a)mail.utexas.edu> writes: > This patch just puts in a simple check that traps this condition so > Wine doesn't crash. I don't know enough about what that code is > supposed to be doing to fix it properly. (This is certainly better > enough on my system though as it longer crashes!) If someone wants to > describe what "should" happen there I can look into really fixing it. The real problem is that we create one X desktop window in each process, while there is only one desktop window in the Windows sense. So anything that depends on the X desktop window to be shared is broken. The right fix is to manage the X desktop in a separate process. -- Alexandre Julliard julliard(a)winehq.com

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"Start menu" (continued ...)
by Robert van Herk 30 Sep '03

30 Sep '03

Hi all... As I understand, right now there are various "standards" on how to write menus for Linux, that are incompatible. That would mean that writing a "grand unified ;-)" start menu client as I discussed before is currently impossible. What could be made already though, is a Wine deamon that talks to shell32.dll internally and input/outputs with pipes to some linux client, in order to serve the start menu items. This would link the Windows start menu to Linux, in a tidy way. So the idea is that the Windows program's output could be piped to some Linux client that actually creates the menu dynamically, so it stays in continuous synchronization with your Start menu directory. The Linux client cannot be made unified yet, but I suppose I could at least write a client for KDE. It wouldn't be to messy to add other clients later for other desktop enviroments, since the deamon does not have to change in order to do so. That is, only the neccesairy thingies change. From looking at the help files I suppose KPanelAppMenu could do the trick. Would such a system be appreciated by the you people? Or do you think I should wait untill a better standarization is available? Or do you think creating a Windows deamon and a Linux client is too much overkill for such a feature? Also, if this feature would be handy, does anyone have expirience with the KPanelAppMenu? I can't get the thingy to work yet... Grtz, Robert

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