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RE: Wine 0.8 TODO v0.1
by Patrik Stridvall 01 Nov '02

01 Nov '02

> Oh, one other thing that would be nice, while I think of > it... is there > any reason (now we are GPL'ed) that we cannot incorperate cabextract > (http://www.kyz.uklinux.net/cabextract.php3) into Wine? Because we are not GPL:ed. We are LGPL:ed. Application that go under programs/ might as an exception go under GPL. However in the case of cabextract we need substantial parts of it to implement functions like SetupIterateCabinet in SETUPAPI.DLL so only the LGPL or less restrictive is acceptable. However the author(s) of cabextract might agree to release the parts we need under the LGPL. Perhaps it better if he release it all under the GPL since we might want to implement the CAB SDK tools like cabarc.exe that is supposed to do almost exactly what cabextract does (and possibly more) AFAICS. What don't you ask him? > Currently we shell out to it as an external program, Do we? Hmm. OK, it seems we do in dlls/urlmon/umon.c. Ugly. That code should probably call SetupIterateCabinet instead. Of course that function is not implemented yet. See above. > in order to run > Microsoft's setup APIs ecetra. This is really annoying for > new users, as > unless they look closely at pages of logs... theres no real indication > that's why installation of a Microsoft program failed. True.

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Tucows top-100 applications :)
by Carlos Lozano 01 Nov '02

01 Nov '02

Hello, It is today top 100 tucows list. I think that it shouldn't be the better wine top 100 list, some entries should be removed, and some new added. (For example some cdrecord program). Regards, Carlos. -- ___ _ \ | / Infraestructuras | . |._ _ _| | ___ ___ ___ http://www.andago.com | || ' |/ . |<_> |/ . |/ . \__ GNU/Linux |_|_||_|_|\___|<___|\_. |\___/ _ \ __|\ \ / Carlos A. Lozano <___'/ | \ -_) __/\__ \ > < -_) [ carlos.lozano(a)andago.com ]\___|_| ____/ _/\_\___| [ calb(a)epsxe.com ] http://www.epsxe.com

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What is a leap second
by György 'Nog' Jeney 01 Nov '02

01 Nov '02

While I was looking through dlls/ntdll/time.c I came across the following two comments: "FIXME: Compute the number of leap second corrections here" and "FIXME: get the GMT offset here" What do these mean? nog.

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Status of libwine MFC and msvcrt compilation
by Uwe Bonnes 01 Nov '02

01 Nov '02

Hallo, what is the status of winelib compilation of MFC and msvcrt? Thanks -- Uwe Bonnes bon(a)elektron.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de Institut fuer Kernphysik Schlossgartenstrasse 9 64289 Darmstadt --------- Tel. 06151 162516 -------- Fax. 06151 164321 ----------

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Versions & mass-appeal
by Dimitrie O. Paun 01 Nov '02

01 Nov '02

People, I think everybody here agrees that Wine's biggest problem is the lack of developers. No developers, slow progress, no users, back to no developers. We are in this vicious circle for a while, spinning our wheels like crazy. We've achieved great progress lately, but I hope we all agree that Wine is a vast project that can succeed only with a mass appeal similar to the fueling the development of the Linux Kernel. Why are we in this position? For reasons I will not go into right now, it seems painfully obvious to me that we are suffering from a severe case of Bad Public Image (tm). Whenever I talk to people not intimately familiar with Wine, about our beloved project, I am _always_ treated with the same reaction: a surprised "Really, it works? Hmmm, I thought it was only running Freecell...". Translation: people consider Wine a huge hack that can run (by some strange happenings) some apps, sometimes. It is viewed as unreliable, "freak of nature sideshow"; something (maybe) cool to talk about, but utterly useless. THIS IS OUR PROBLEM. The lack of users follows trivially. We know the above opinion is not true. *I* get constantly amazed by how much progress we've made. Something must be done, and I think there is something to be done. How do we change this state of affairs? Well, people need major events to reevaluate their opinions. Being major, they are by definition few, and so we don't have too many chances. For Wine, these events are the upcoming x.y releases. What I'm trying to say is that we have to prepare properly for them. Here's my concrete proposal for releases: 0.8.x : Wine is usable, we don't guarantee binary compatibility 0.9.x : Wine is usable, and we kinda guarantee binary compatibility 1.0.x : Wine is quite usable, we guarantee binary compatibility I'll define these things more precisely later, but before that, let me explain why we should introduce the 0.8.x series: -- a chance to attract more users into the fold -- Wine is approaching that stage fast -- it's a logical, interim step to 0.9 -- will help us focus Whatever the reason, it's a _logical_ step that we must go through in our journey to 0.9, and from a user's perspective, it makes sense to make it public. There's no point in robbing us of the userbase for a abstract techy goal of binary compatibility. That's the next stage. Criteria for these releases: 0.8.0 -- Wine runs several popular apps well (we're close) -- Web site is updated (e.g. Who's Who, etc) -- Existing docs are up-to-date -- Utilities are close to final form (winebuild, etc.) 0.9.0 -- DLL separation complete -- Server protocol complete 1.0.0 -- Major bugs squashed -- Flawless UI -- Complete docs I'll leave it at that. Comments, flames? -- Dimi.

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Getting actively involved in the Wine project
by Thomas Wickline 01 Nov '02

01 Nov '02

From the page: ----- PR manager Currently we almost have no Public Relationship management at all. This should change for the better. Currently almost the only form of PR is "preaching to the choir", since we're having articles on online IT sites (by far most are Linux only !). We should have much more coverage on traditional Windowsish sites and, most importantly, in dead-tree newspapers, to enlighten the general public also known as The Great Unwashed Masses ! ----- Wine users , CodeWeavers & WineX customers could do Previews/Demo's at there local lug meetings as well.. This is what I did a couple months back and it was a huge success there were Windows users at the meeting to see Linux and Win app's being run on Linux ... Also it gives Linux users a look at wine as well. So I suggest that we try to encourage wine users to volinteer to show Wine at there local user groups/Installfest/Computer shows and so on. This is not a PR manager but it is PR...... Tom

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Re: RFC: msvcrt _popen/_wpopen/_pclose
by chrismorgan＠rcn.com 01 Nov '02

01 Nov '02

What is wrong with using wcmd and extending it if necessary? Chris > > From: "Jaco Greeff" <jaco(a)puxedo.org> > Date: 2002/10/31 Thu PM 04:27:43 EST > To: wine-devel(a)winehq.com > Subject: RFC: msvcrt _popen/_wpopen/_pclose > > Hi, > > I want some comments on the possibility of a _popen/_wpopen/_pclose > implementation in Wine. Reference available at: > > http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/vclib/html… > > The open functions basically operate in the same way as the popen function > in Linux, ie. it spawns a process with the command via the command > interpreter. Now, unfortionately we don't have our won cmd.exe available, > but should people really need this functionality it might not be too much to > ask as to copy it from a working Windows installation. > > In my mind, supporting the Win 95/98 command interpreters might be a > nightmare - my gutt feel is that these two rely too much on DOS internals to > be sucessfully launched via Wine. No, I haven't tried it, so I might be > completely wrong. Either way, something like this might be better > implemented via the Win NT/2000/XP cmd.exe. (I'll test my assumptions > tomorrow, I don't have access to the command interpreters tonight.) > > I've hacked (yes, it was quick) a potential implementation of the _popen > family of functions. (Haven't compiled, haven't tested, this is just and RFC > - if it can work, I'll spend some real time on it.) Anyway, here it is, > comments appreciated: > > --[ inline-ish RFC ]---- > > #include "config.h" > #include "wine/port.h" > > #include <stdio.h> > #include <stdlib.h> > #ifdef HAVE_UNISTD_H > # include <unistd.h> > #endif > > #include "winbase.h" > #include "winnls.h" > #include "wine/unicode.h" > #include "msvcrt/stdio.h" > #include "msvcrt/string.h" > > #include "wine/debug.h" > > #define POPEN_FLAG_READ 0x0001 > #define POPEN_FLAG_WRITE 0x0002 > #define POPEN_FLAG_TEXT 0x0004 > #define POPEN_FLAG_BINARY 0x0008 > > inline CHAR *LPCWSTRToLPSTR(const LPCWSTR lpwstrIn, INT nIn) > { > INT nLen = WideCharToMultiByte(CP_ACP, 0, lpwszIn, nIn, NULL, 0, NULL, > NULL); > CHAR *szOut = (CHAR *)malloc((nLen+1)*sizeof(CHAR)); > if (szOut) > { > WideCharToMultiByte(CP_ACP, 0, lpwszIn, nIn, szOut, nLen+1, NULL, NULL); > szOut[nLen] = '\0'; > } > return szOut; > } > > INT POPEN_parseModeFlags(const CHAR *szMode) > { > INT nFlags = 0; > while (szMode && *szMode) > { > switch (*szMode) > { > case 'r': > { > if (nFlags & POPEN_FLAG_WRITE) > WARN(": _popen: Cannot set both read and write open > flags, ignoring read flag\n"); > else > nFlags = nFlags & POPEN_FLAG_READ; > break; > } > case 'w': > { > if (nFlags & POPEN_FLAG_READ) > WARN(": _popen: Cannot set both read and write open > flags, ignoring write flag\n"); > else > nFlags = nFlags & POPEN_FLAG_WRITE; > break; > } > case 'b': > case 't': > { > FIXME(": _popen: %c mode flag not implemented, ignoring\n", > *szMode); > break; > } > default: > { > WARN(": _popen: unknown mode flag %c, ignoring\n", *szMode); > break; > } > } > } > return nFlags; > } > > MSVCRT_FILE *MSVCRT_popen(const CHAR *szCommand, const CHAR *szMode) > { > MSVCRT_FILE *fProcess = NULL; > > if (!szCommand || !szMode) > return NULL; > > INT nFlags = POPEN_parseModeFlags(szMode); > if (!(nFlags & (POPEN_FLAG_READ|POPEN_FLAG_WRITE))) > { > ERR("No open mode flag r or w specified\n"); > return NULL; > } > > /* _popen/_wpopen executes the required command via the command > * processor, either command.com (Win 95/98) or cmd.exe (Win NT/2000/XP). > * Wine does not currently have it's own "cmd.exe" hence we cannot > * really do anything more at this point. However, we try to lauch it > * and hope for the best... > */ > CHAR *szExec = (CHAR *)malloc(strlen("wine -- C:/cmd.exe -C > ")+strlen(szCommand)+1); > if (szExec) > { > sprintf(szExec, "wine -- C:/cmd.exe -C %s", szCommand); > fProcess = popen(szExec, (nFlags & POPEN_FLAG_READ) ? "r" : "w"); > if (!fProcess) > ERR("Execution of C:/cmd.exe via wine failed\n"); > else > WARN("Launch of %s succeeded, no guarentees of success made\n", > debugstr_a(szExec)); > free(szExec); > } > > return fProcess; > } > > MSVCRT_FILE *MSVCRT_wpopen(const WCHAR *wszCommand, const WCHAR *wszMode) > { > MSVCRT_FILE *fProcess = NULL; > > if (!wszCommand || !wszMode) > return NULL; > > CHAR *szCommand = LPCWSTRToLPSTR(wszCommand, strlenW(wszCommand)); > if (szCommand) > { > CHAR *szMode = LPCWSTRToLPSTR(wszMode, strlenW(wszMode)); > if (szMode) > { > fProcess = _popen(szCommand, szMode); > free(szMode); > free(szCommand); > } > free(szCommand); > } > > return fProcess; > } > > int MSVCRT_pclose(MSVCRT_FILE *fProcess) > { > if (!fProcess) > return -1; > return pclose(fProcess); > } > > > >

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So lets say we do it
by Dimitrie O. Paun 01 Nov '02

01 Nov '02

That is, Lets assume for the sake of argument that Alexandre likes my 0.8 idea so much, that he releases Wine 0.8 with much fanfare next Monday (so we have a good audience), and the news reaches Slashdot where a message with a link to http://www.winehq.org is posted, in good CmdrTaco fashion... And so, let's see what's going to happen: 1. 90% of /.ers will click on the link, and WineHQ gets Slashdotted! :) 2. People will look for the typical left-side menu: Home About Status Development Download Screenshots *BZZT* We don't have any. 5% will drop off here. 3. Then they'll visually search for the word "Screenshot" *BZZT* We don't have any on front page. 30% will drop off. *I* drop off here when I visit other projects, for crying out loud! So let's assume that by a miracle they'll discover the screenshots: do they make them drool? No, we loose another 15%. Damn, that's tough! Let's see what happens to the rest: 4. Let's download, and try it out Do we have officially sanctioned binaries (at the very least .rpms for RH, and .deb for Debian)? No. *BZZT* We loose another 30%. Again, *I* don't care about stuff that doesn't come as a binary .rpm for my RH system. I used to, not anymore. Fine, some will install what they download. What next? Hm, this Wine thing just sits there, it's not that simple. We need to read some docs. Back to the site. 5. Look at the docs Oh, we have some. We hate to read docs, but Wine is cool, so we swallow the pill. Only to find out it's out of date!!! What a piece of #@$%! *BZZT* Another 10% drop off. Thats 90% drop-off before they really tried it out! The rest 10%, go on. So, what do we do with it? 6. Look for a list of Win-apps that we can run Is there something on the site? No. Blah, too much hassel... *BZZT* Another 5% go. (Don't even mention app-db, it's *way* too complicated!) So the 5% left, install wine, install a Win-app, and play around. Great, it works! They start learning the utilities, etc., but those are in flux, and we change them, and they get PO-ed. Another percent, or two leave the fold... -- Dimi. P.S. A story-like TODO (with embedded rationale) for 0.8.0 :)

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Re: Treeview notifications
by Dustin Navea 01 Nov '02

01 Nov '02

--- "Dimitrie O. Paun" <dpaun(a)rogers.com> wrote: > Dustin, Adrian, can you please try this one, and let me > know if it fixes your problems? > > ChangeLog > Fix some treeview notification codes between ANSI/Unicode mode. > Another sidenote... in TREEVIEW_NotifyFormat shouldnt (lParam == NF_REQUERY) be (lParam == NF_QUERY) and change the corresponding line in TREEVIEW_Create since that is the original query? I have already searched throughout the sources and the only place that TREEVIEW_NotifyFormat is called is in treeview.c in TREEVIEW_Create ... -Dustin __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/

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Re: I suck...
by Dimitrie O. Paun 01 Nov '02

01 Nov '02

On October 31, 2002 08:17 pm, Greg Turner wrote: > Inlined for your viewing pleasure. Cool, thanks! :) -- Dimi.

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Re: Treeview notifications
by Dustin Navea 01 Nov '02

01 Nov '02

Unfortunately, no it didnt fix the problem. :( -Dustin --- "Dimitrie O. Paun" <dpaun(a)rogers.com> wrote: > Dustin, Adrian, can you please try this one, and let me > know if it fixes your problems? > > ChangeLog > Fix some treeview notification codes between ANSI/Unicode mode. > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/

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Re: So lets say we do it
by John K. Hohm 01 Nov '02

01 Nov '02

> Once we have that we need to make sure we have suitable defaults to > allow running at least the drives/paths control panel without registry > files at all. We also need the Wine dlls to register themselves > instead of having to merge winedefault.reg by hand. Then it should be > possible to write a .inf script to setup a new Wine install > automatically from scratch. Once upon a time (well okay, in July) I said I would make the Wine dlls self-registerable, and now I've gone and created bug #1117 to remind me to do it. I plan to use the (mostly-)static-array-driven, dumb but generic, regsvr_register and regsvr_unregister functions that are currently situated in dlls/comcat. I don't like the idea of copying around exact duplicates of regsvr.[hc], but they seem too small to put in their own libwine_regsvr.so; what do you recommend?

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Re: wine/dlls/rpcrt4 ndr_marshall.c
by Greg Turner 01 Nov '02

01 Nov '02

On Thursday 31 October 2002 07:47 pm, Alexandre Julliard wrote: > Fix stupid clone of broken macro, found by Marcus. On Thursday 31 October 2002 07:17 pm, I wrote: > - fix stupid clone of broken macro, found by Alexandre. sheesh! I can't even get the fixer's fixed. oh well :( Like I said in the patch subject, I suck... -- gmt "The purpose of government is to rein in the rights of the people" --President Bill Clinton, MTV interview, 1993

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Re: I suck...
by Alexandre Julliard 01 Nov '02

01 Nov '02

Greg Turner <gmturner007(a)ameritech.net> writes: > Thanks for catching the first, Alexandre, or > I wouldn't have caught this second... Actually I didn't catch anything, the first one was fixed by Marcus. -- Alexandre Julliard julliard(a)winehq.com

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Warcraft III no go. (probs with 1.03 ?)
by dan carter 31 Oct '02

31 Oct '02

OK, it seems everyone but me is able to play War3 under linux. Current status is i have the 1.03 NoCD patch: ³ Warcraft III: Reign Of Chaos 1.03 Virtual Crack ³ ³ Cracked By : gimpsRus ³ Game Type : Strategy ³ ³ Packaged By: gimpsRus ³ Released On: 10 October 2002 ³ I'm using the 'dataparty' RPMs build "wine-cvs-opengl-102802-1" OpenGL is working and i can still load the warez beta version of war3 that i used to play. Now that i have actually bought the damn thing i can't play :( Here is the error i get: [dantheperson@danski dantheperson]$ wine .wine/fake_windows/Program\ Files/Warcraft\ III/war3.exe -- -opengl wine: Unhandled exception, starting debugger... err:seh:start_debugger Couldn't start debugger ("debugger/winedbg 134692272 8324") (2) Read the Wine Developers Guide on how to set up winedbg or another debugger [dantheperson@danski dantheperson]$ Has anybody had success with the 1.03 patch? Does anyone know where i can get an older NoCD crack that is known to be working under linux? Rgds, dan carter

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RFC: msvcrt _popen/_wpopen/_pclose
by Jaco Greeff 31 Oct '02

31 Oct '02

Hi, I want some comments on the possibility of a _popen/_wpopen/_pclose implementation in Wine. Reference available at: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/vclib/html… The open functions basically operate in the same way as the popen function in Linux, ie. it spawns a process with the command via the command interpreter. Now, unfortionately we don't have our won cmd.exe available, but should people really need this functionality it might not be too much to ask as to copy it from a working Windows installation. In my mind, supporting the Win 95/98 command interpreters might be a nightmare - my gutt feel is that these two rely too much on DOS internals to be sucessfully launched via Wine. No, I haven't tried it, so I might be completely wrong. Either way, something like this might be better implemented via the Win NT/2000/XP cmd.exe. (I'll test my assumptions tomorrow, I don't have access to the command interpreters tonight.) I've hacked (yes, it was quick) a potential implementation of the _popen family of functions. (Haven't compiled, haven't tested, this is just and RFC - if it can work, I'll spend some real time on it.) Anyway, here it is, comments appreciated: --[ inline-ish RFC ]---- #include "config.h" #include "wine/port.h" #include <stdio.h> #include <stdlib.h> #ifdef HAVE_UNISTD_H # include <unistd.h> #endif #include "winbase.h" #include "winnls.h" #include "wine/unicode.h" #include "msvcrt/stdio.h" #include "msvcrt/string.h" #include "wine/debug.h" #define POPEN_FLAG_READ 0x0001 #define POPEN_FLAG_WRITE 0x0002 #define POPEN_FLAG_TEXT 0x0004 #define POPEN_FLAG_BINARY 0x0008 inline CHAR *LPCWSTRToLPSTR(const LPCWSTR lpwstrIn, INT nIn) { INT nLen = WideCharToMultiByte(CP_ACP, 0, lpwszIn, nIn, NULL, 0, NULL, NULL); CHAR *szOut = (CHAR *)malloc((nLen+1)*sizeof(CHAR)); if (szOut) { WideCharToMultiByte(CP_ACP, 0, lpwszIn, nIn, szOut, nLen+1, NULL, NULL); szOut[nLen] = '\0'; } return szOut; } INT POPEN_parseModeFlags(const CHAR *szMode) { INT nFlags = 0; while (szMode && *szMode) { switch (*szMode) { case 'r': { if (nFlags & POPEN_FLAG_WRITE) WARN(": _popen: Cannot set both read and write open flags, ignoring read flag\n"); else nFlags = nFlags & POPEN_FLAG_READ; break; } case 'w': { if (nFlags & POPEN_FLAG_READ) WARN(": _popen: Cannot set both read and write open flags, ignoring write flag\n"); else nFlags = nFlags & POPEN_FLAG_WRITE; break; } case 'b': case 't': { FIXME(": _popen: %c mode flag not implemented, ignoring\n", *szMode); break; } default: { WARN(": _popen: unknown mode flag %c, ignoring\n", *szMode); break; } } } return nFlags; } MSVCRT_FILE *MSVCRT_popen(const CHAR *szCommand, const CHAR *szMode) { MSVCRT_FILE *fProcess = NULL; if (!szCommand || !szMode) return NULL; INT nFlags = POPEN_parseModeFlags(szMode); if (!(nFlags & (POPEN_FLAG_READ|POPEN_FLAG_WRITE))) { ERR("No open mode flag r or w specified\n"); return NULL; } /* _popen/_wpopen executes the required command via the command * processor, either command.com (Win 95/98) or cmd.exe (Win NT/2000/XP). * Wine does not currently have it's own "cmd.exe" hence we cannot * really do anything more at this point. However, we try to lauch it * and hope for the best... */ CHAR *szExec = (CHAR *)malloc(strlen("wine -- C:/cmd.exe -C ")+strlen(szCommand)+1); if (szExec) { sprintf(szExec, "wine -- C:/cmd.exe -C %s", szCommand); fProcess = popen(szExec, (nFlags & POPEN_FLAG_READ) ? "r" : "w"); if (!fProcess) ERR("Execution of C:/cmd.exe via wine failed\n"); else WARN("Launch of %s succeeded, no guarentees of success made\n", debugstr_a(szExec)); free(szExec); } return fProcess; } MSVCRT_FILE *MSVCRT_wpopen(const WCHAR *wszCommand, const WCHAR *wszMode) { MSVCRT_FILE *fProcess = NULL; if (!wszCommand || !wszMode) return NULL; CHAR *szCommand = LPCWSTRToLPSTR(wszCommand, strlenW(wszCommand)); if (szCommand) { CHAR *szMode = LPCWSTRToLPSTR(wszMode, strlenW(wszMode)); if (szMode) { fProcess = _popen(szCommand, szMode); free(szMode); free(szCommand); } free(szCommand); } return fProcess; } int MSVCRT_pclose(MSVCRT_FILE *fProcess) { if (!fProcess) return -1; return pclose(fProcess); }

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Re: So lets say we do it
by Dimitrie O. Paun 31 Oct '02

31 Oct '02

On October 31, 2002 04:18 pm, Andreas Mohr wrote: > Bl**dy b*tch ! :-)) Listen man, I don't like that! I mean, what's up with the stars?!? :))) > First you annoy the h*ll out of people, and then you behave as if nothing > had ever happened and the weather was fantastic... ;-) Oh, Andy dude, you are the toughest guy on Wine-devel, crushing poor newbies without remorse. And now, all of a sudden, you become this sensible, in-touch-with-your-feelings guy?!? ;-) (ROTFL) > (BTW: the weather here is awful :) See, and you blame poor me... :P -- Dimi.

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XBox
by Dirk 31 Oct '02

31 Oct '02

Could someone do something to make the need for this hardware disappear and save the world of people who love proprietrary video game consoles? There is already a tool that converts xpe files into exe. Only the bios and the improved DirectX must be re-engineered and the rest will be done by a Geforce4 (or 5) and a 2Ghz CPU.

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Debugging advice
by Matthew Bloch 31 Oct '02

31 Oct '02

Hi there; I feel like I'm "nearly there" with porting this game to run with winelib, a version checked out from winehq CVS about a week ago. Because I wanted my build system to be cross-platform, and WINE only as a stop-gap, I'm using the Jam build system and so can't directly take advantage of winemaker. Plus I would rather learn and document how the build process works manually, since I can't find this information anywhere else. Anyhow I now have the 400-odd source files compiling happily against my wine header files once I'd excised the need for Direct3D. I have a directory full of object files with external references to Win32 functions and a WinMain function. So to do the final linking step I've used (based on watching the example winemine build process): $WINE/tools/winebuild/winebuild \ -fPIC -DSTRICT -D_REENTRANT \ -exe LSNClient.exe -mgui Builds/native-debug-linux/Source/*.o \ -L$WINE/dlls -luser32 -lgdi32 -ladvapi32 -lkernel32 -lddraw -ldsound \ -lwinmm -ldisplay -ldispdib >Source/LSNClient.exe.c and then compiled & linked LSNClient.exe.c to the rest of the object files with the -shared flag, which leaves me with a shared library. Sideline: am I correct in thinking that winebuild's job is to scan the supplied object files for Win32 dependencies and construct the necessary glue code to load the needed .dll.so files? What's the reason that the linking process can't correspond more closely to "normal" linking, i.e. where I could just supply -lddraw -lwine to my program to produce a final binary? I then run ../wine/wine LSNClient.exe to try to run the game, and get this error: err:module:BUILTIN32_LoadLibraryExA loaded .so but dll display.dll still not found - 16-bit dll or version conflict. err:module:PE_fixup_imports Module (file) display.dll (which is needed by Y:\Work\Nemesis\LSNClient.exe) not found Any idea what might be going wrong, or how I could diagnose it? More generally, the natively compiled .exe runs okay (if grindingly slowly, and with a couple of display glitches) under the binary loader, but I assumed that if I could produce a native version I'd be avoiding a lot of overhead and make my debugging job easier since I could use familiar GNU tools to debug my portability code as I wrote it. What efficiency gains will I make compiling a native "shared library exe" with gcc as opposed to just compiling with Visual C and running it under the normal WINE binary loader? I'm interested in how the latter works efficiently, so any advice in this direction would be appreciated-- I've thought on more than one occasion that maybe I should skip the WINE stop-gap and port it to SDL all at once, but the idea of being able to gradually wean the game off Win32 is appealing. cheers, -- Matthew Bloch Bytemark Computer Consulting Limited http://www.bytemark.co.uk/ tel. +44 (0) 8707 455026

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RE: winapi_check question...
by Patrik Stridvall 31 Oct '02

31 Oct '02

> On Thursday 31 October 2002 09:20 am, Patrik Stridvall wrote: > > Greg wrote: > > > winapi_check tells me: > > > > > > ndr_stubless.c:86: rpcrt4: LONG_PTR WINAPIV > > > NdrClientCall2(PMIDL_STUB_DESC,PFORMAT_STRING,...): argument 1 > > > documentation: \ > > > /* CLIENT_CALL_RETURN */ > > > > This is because winapi_check misparser the line: > > LONG_PTR /* CLIENT_CALL_RETURN */ > > RPCRT4_NdrClientCall2(PMIDL_STUB_DESC pStubDesc, PFORMAT_STRING > > pFormat, va_list args) > > > > Ignore it. > > OK. You promise it won't screw up the actual documentation bot? Promise? Hmm. All code have bugs you know and winapi_check is designed to be ad hoc and thus inherently buggy... :-) But seriously, I wouldn't worry about it. Anyway. A real fix to the code you be nice. Presumable the type CLIENT_CALL_RETURN haven't been declared properly. > > > how shall I deal with these? > > > > Fix them as above or do as everybody elses do wait for me to fix it. > > :-) > > heh. Well, maybe I can set an example for those deadbeats :) :-)

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Re: dlls/msvcrt/tests: printf
by Jaco Greeff 31 Oct '02

31 Oct '02

On Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:57:12 +0100, Uwe Bonnes <bon(a)elektron.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de> wrote : > Jaco> ... Tests that will fail > Jaco> with current implementation are temporarily commented out > > Don't comment them out, matrk them "todo". Look at the syntax in > documentation/testing. I've marked the code with a "FIXME". I don't want the test sequence to fail for this issue which is solved by my msvcrt patch. The way I've done it allows others to verify the new vfprintf patch with minimal work. > And plain inlined patches are preferred against attachments. I'm doing this via a mail web interface, it has the ugly habit of doing line-wraps. I also prefer inline patches (like to see what is going on without have to save etc.), it is just not entirely possible for me at this point. *sigh* Greetings, Jaco

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Some other problems ...
by Paul Millar 31 Oct '02

31 Oct '02

Hi everyone, Just a couple of problems I've noticed. They look like they're due to some broken build dependencies. 1. I have a copy of wine on my laptop which I do "cvs update" every few days. After updating today, I did the usual "./configure --enable-opengl && make depend && make" and left it to compile. But, when I tried the result, I got a client/server mismatch for SERVER_PROTOCOL_VERSION. One was claimed to be v88 whilst the other was v89. Doing a "make distclean" then repeating the build "fixed" the problem. Patch http://cvs.winehq.com/patch.py?id=6064 (committed last Tuesday) bumped the SERVER_PROTOCOL_VERSION up to 89. So it looks like some of the binaries weren't updated during the build. I tried altering the version (manually) and rebuilding, but wine rebuilt correctly. 2. WRT hit a problem last night where "make test" failed. The log included messages like: gcc -c -I. -I. -I../../../include -I../../../include -g -O2 -Wall -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -fPIC -DSTRICT -DNONAMELESSUNION -DNONAMELESSSTRUCT -D_REENTRANT -o registry.o registry.c LD_LIBRARY_PATH="../../../library:../../../unicode:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH" ../../../tools/winebuild/winebuild -fPIC -DSTRICT -DNONAMELESSUNION -DNONAMELESSSTRUCT -o advapi32_test.exe.spec.c -exe advapi32_test.exe -mcui registry.o testlist.o -L../../../dlls -ladvapi32 -lkernel32 -lntdll gcc -shared -Wl,-Bsymbolic advapi32_test.exe.spec.o registry.o testlist.o -o advapi32_test.exe.so -L../../../library -lwine -lm advapi32_test.exe.spec.o: In function `__wine_exe_main': /home/paulm/WINE-cvs/wine/dlls/advapi32/tests/advapi32_test.exe.spec.c:116: undefined reference to `main' registry.o: In function `test_enum_value': /home/paulm/WINE-cvs/wine/dlls/advapi32/tests/registry.c:69: undefined reference to `winetest_set_ok_location' /home/paulm/WINE-cvs/wine/dlls/advapi32/tests/registry.c:69: undefined reference to `winetest_ok' /home/paulm/WINE-cvs/wine/dlls/advapi32/tests/registry.c:78: undefined reference to `winetest_set_ok_location' [... etc ...] The later build had six tests that succeded. These were the new scanf tests introduced into that build by patch http://cvs.winehq.com/patch.py?id=6107 I've just done a "make distclean" followed by a normal rebuild and test. Its currently running through the regression tests, but so far it seems to be working. These are vague reports of unrepeatable problems ... never a good thing! I'm quite busy right now (real work and everything), so I don't have time to investigate this myself. Just posting this hoping the cause its obvious to someone else :^) ---- Paul Millar

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Re: dlls/msvcrt/tests: printf
by Jaco Greeff 31 Oct '02

31 Oct '02

On Thu Oct 31 20:04:30 2002, "Jaco Greeff" <jaco(a)puxedo.org> wrote : > On Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:57:12 +0100, Uwe Bonnes > <bon(a)elektron.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de> wrote : > > Jaco> ... Tests that will fail > > Jaco> with current implementation are temporarily commented out > > > > Don't comment them out, matrk them "todo". Look at the syntax in > > documentation/testing. > > I've marked the code with a "FIXME". Sorry, I misunderstood the first time around, will something like todo("linux") { do(something() == 1, "whatever"); } do the trick? But unsure about the definition I should use, I can see "cygwin", "freebsd", etc. This one will fail on all non-Windows platforms. Greetings, Jaco

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Re: dlls/msvcrt/tests: printf
by Jaco Greeff 31 Oct '02

31 Oct '02

On Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:04:48 -0600, Greg Turner <gmturner007(a)ameritech.net> wrote : > On Thursday 31 October 2002 10:34 am, Jaco Greeff wrote: > > - Tests that will fail with current implementation are temporarily > > commented out > > Is there a middle ground for tests that are expected to fail? If not, > IMO maybe there should be: It kinda defeats the purpose of a test > framework if we just comment out tests that don't work... Agreed. It will pass shortly though :) At this point the test will help anybody wishing to verify my latest msvcrt patch. Plus, it really should pass. The part that does fail is on Unicode printing, which give me one of a few choices: 1. Don't send in a test; 2. Be stubborn and let the test fail for everybody doing a make test; 3. Send in a really crippled test case; 4. Combination of 3 + 4 so people can easily have the framework to test if progress have been made. That is the reason why I've commented it out, hopefully shortly it will be fully featured. Greetings, Jaco

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Re: dlls/msvcrt/tests: printf
by Greg Turner 31 Oct '02

31 Oct '02

On Thursday 31 October 2002 10:34 am, Jaco Greeff wrote: > - Tests that will fail with current implementation are temporarily > commented out Is there a middle ground for tests that are expected to fail? If not, IMO maybe there should be: It kinda defeats the purpose of a test framework if we just comment out tests that don't work... but OTOH, its pretty unfair to the other tests to have the whole "make test" fail because of some known issue. -- gmt "The purpose of government is to rein in the rights of the people" --President Bill Clinton, MTV interview, 1993

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Re: rpc_H_PL9
by Michael Stefaniuc 31 Oct '02

31 Oct '02

On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 08:49:18AM -0600, Greg Turner wrote: > LICENSE: X11 > > CHANGELOG: > * dlls/rpcrt4: rpc_server.c; > include: rpcdcep.h: > Greg Turner <gmturner007(a)ameritech.net> > - One more fixup for winapi_check > -UINT WINAPI I_RpcWindowProc( HANDLE hWnd, UINT Message, UINT wParam, ULONG lParam) +UINT WINAPI I_RpcWindowProc( void *hWnd, UINT Message, UINT wParam, ULONG lParam ) That's totaly broken. It's a problem in winapi_check and not in your code. Well, their is a problem in your code too, i would change HANDLE to HWND. bye michael -- Michael Stefaniuc Tel.: +49-711-96437-199 System Administration Fax.: +49-711-96437-111 Red Hat GmbH Email: mstefani(a)redhat.com Hauptstaetterstr. 58 http://www.redhat.de/ D-70178 Stuttgart

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RE: winapi_check question...
by Patrik Stridvall 31 Oct '02

31 Oct '02

> winapi_check tells me: > > ndr_stubless.c:86: rpcrt4: LONG_PTR WINAPIV > NdrClientCall2(PMIDL_STUB_DESC,PFORMAT_STRING,...): argument 1 > documentation: \ > /* CLIENT_CALL_RETURN */ This is because winapi_check misparser the line: LONG_PTR /* CLIENT_CALL_RETURN */ RPCRT4_NdrClientCall2(PMIDL_STUB_DESC pStubDesc, PFORMAT_STRING pFormat, va_list args) Ignore it. > rpc_epmap.c:56: rpcrt4: RPC_STATUS WINAPI > RpcEpRegisterA(RPC_IF_HANDLE,PRPC_BINDING_VECTOR,PUUID_VECTOR,LPSTR): > no translation defined: PRPC_BINDING_VECTOR This is because winapi_check doesn't know the type of PRPC_BINDING_VECTOR. One day I will teach it to parse the header files properly. Until then tell it what type it is in the the file tools/winapi/win32.api: %%rpcrt4 ... %ptr ... PRPC_BINDING_VECTOR ... Since PRPC_BINDING_VECTOR is presumable a pointer it goes under the ptr section. > rpc_epmap.c:56: rpcrt4: RPC_STATUS WINAPI > RpcEpRegisterA(RPC_IF_HANDLE,PRPC_BINDING_VECTOR,PUUID_VECTOR,LPSTR): > no translation defined: PUUID_VECTOR Same as above. > rpc_epmap.c:102: rpcrt4: RPC_STATUS WINAPI > RpcEpUnregister(RPC_IF_HANDLE,PRPC_BINDING_VECTOR,PUUID_VECTOR): > argument 2 type is forbidden: PRPC_BINDING_VECTOR (unknown) Same as above. > how shall I deal with these? Fix them as above or do as everybody elses do wait for me to fix it. :-)

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Re: dlls/msvcrt/tests: printf
by Uwe Bonnes 31 Oct '02

31 Oct '02

>>>>> "Jaco" == Jaco Greeff <jaco(a)puxedo.org> writes: Jaco> ... Tests that will fail Jaco> with current implementation are temporarily commented out Don't comment them out, matrk them "todo". Look at the syntax in documentation/testing. And plain inlined patches are preferred against attachments. Bye -- Uwe Bonnes bon(a)elektron.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de Institut fuer Kernphysik Schlossgartenstrasse 9 64289 Darmstadt --------- Tel. 06151 162516 -------- Fax. 06151 164321 ----------

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Re: Re: So lets say we do it
by chrismorgan＠rcn.com 31 Oct '02

31 Oct '02

> > From: Alexandre Julliard <julliard(a)winehq.com> > Date: 2002/10/31 Thu AM 11:24:28 EST > To: dpaun(a)rogers.com > CC: Wine Devel <wine-devel(a)winehq.com> > Subject: Re: So lets say we do it > > "Dimitrie O. Paun" <dpaun(a)rogers.com> writes: > > > So the 5% left, install wine, install a Win-app, and play around. > > Great, it works! > > You forgot a few things here: > > First it doesn't even start because they don't have a config file. OK, > they copy one from somewhere, it doesn't work because the drives are > wrong. Then they don't have the proper registry (winedefault.reg? > what's that?) I was going to reply yesterday on this issue. I help a fair amount of people on irc that have config problems and there are a few things we should probably do to fix this. 1. Check the wine config on startup. If the config is missing or incorrect then launch a gui config app to fix things. It would be best if this tool had two user options, one for an Automatic setup and another for an Expert setup. We do a good job with wineinstall so I don't have much doubt that we could automate the config and satisfy 80%+ of users. 2. Make it easier for users to modify their configs via a gui tool. 3. Straighten out how packages(RPM, deb, etc) setup wine's config. I'm not even sure how this is done right now and LOTS of people come asking for help saying they have installed an RPM version of wine but don't know how to configure it. This might be completely solved by #1. Chris

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Re: Re: So lets say we do it
by chrismorgan＠rcn.com 31 Oct '02

31 Oct '02

> > 2. People will look for the typical left-side menu: > > Home > > About > > Status > > Development > > Download > > Screenshots > > > > *BZZT* We don't have any. 5% will drop off here. > > Sorry to say that, but in this mail, *you* were talking *some* crap IMHO > ;-) > > We *do* have screenshots. The About page has some pretty nice screenshot. > OK, it's a minimalist approach, granted, but it does show IE etc. > I'd also like to second the opinion that we should have a dedicated "Screenshot" entry right off of the main page. I do the same stuff that Dimitrie does, go to a project, look at some text briefly and then immediately want to see what the app looks like when it is working. So maybe leave the screenshot link off of the "About" page but also put a link on the main page. Chris

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RPC test code?
by Greg Turner 31 Oct '02

31 Oct '02

OK, wine made it's first successful RPC's on my box today (yay!) Now, it's time to do a smidgen of housekeeping, and whip up a test. This is a bit tricky, I have a few open questions, which I will enumerate: 1) It feels like cheating to use the same process as client /and/ server. OTOH, it will be a bit cleaner to do it as such... any thoughts on this? specifically, 1a) Will wedging what is basically a winelib app into my test directory create a problem in the configure/make system? Is there a clean way to make sure I invoke the right winelib .exe.so file (the one in my test directory)? 1b) Are all the process-control API's I will need for this in place? (in particular I should kill off the server in case of a failure... will this be a problem? I guess probably not, or else I'd see a lot more wine's hanging around in my process table.) 1c) If the test fails in the winelib thingy, I have to propagate this back to the test; but relying on RPC for this (aside from being unimplemented ATM) is a catch-22, since error propagation might be broken (hence the need for a test)... I guess I can think of creative solutions to this like putting stupid temp files somewhere. Any better ideas? 1d) Anyone know of a problem with this I haven't thought of yet? 2) Whether I use threads or processes, I need some coordination to happen; I am very concerned about race conditions. I want my tests to run under the most absurd and grueling conditions, with NO race conditions. But I can't wrap my mind around how to avoid them ATM. For example: 2a) Should the rpc.c "real" test be the client or the server? I can imagine races either way. Let's say rpc.c is the client. This isn't so bad at a glance; I invoke the server thread/process, and poll RPC from time to time until it goes active (how I do this is another issue, but I'll think of something). Now I do my magic, and request a shutdown via RPC to the server... but, in two cases there is technically a race: first, while I'm invoking the server, I have to wait for it to start as discussed; second, after I send the Shutdown RPC to the server, I have to actually wait for the process/thread to terminate. In both cases, how long is long enough? What if the tests are running on some absurdly bogged down machine that's simultaneously compiling a matrix of 10,000 different wine's, for example? On the other hand, if I use some really liberal timeout like 30 minutes, then in a failure condition, my test would appear to hang, this isn't so great either. If rpc.c is the server, similar problems exist. 2b-?) uh, I guess I squeezed all of these questions into 2a. 3) MIDL? I still haven't figured out the legal ramifications of using midl-generated code. I'd rather not spend a month working on widl before generating a test... so do I need to code my stubs by hand? Even if I do, they're gonna come out looking more-or-less just like MIDL code... maybe I need to figure out the licensing restrictions on MIDL-generated code myself, but does anyone know offhand, I didn't see any obvious discussion of this on microsoft.com or in the platform sdk. ugh. thanks for taking the time to read this long-winded post. Any responses, assistance, flames, etc. are appreciated. -- gmt "The purpose of government is to rein in the rights of the people" --President Bill Clinton, MTV interview, 1993

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Re: SetWindowHookEx
by steve.lustbader＠philips.com 31 Oct '02

31 Oct '02

This patch fixed it. Could you change the fixme message in user/hook.c to something more explicit than "won't work right," or at least include a comment in the code explaining why it won't work right? -Steve steve.lustbader(a)philips.com writes: > It's returning NULL for me, which implies it isn't working. Is there some > sort of trace that I can send you to help you out? Oops you are right, this should fix it: Index: server/hook.c =================================================================== RCS file: /opt/cvs-commit/wine/server/hook.c,v retrieving revision 1.1 diff -u -r1.1 hook.c --- server/hook.c 29 Oct 2002 00:41:42 -0000 1.1 +++ server/hook.c 30 Oct 2002 19:51:20 -0000 @@ -227,7 +227,8 @@ set_error( STATUS_INVALID_PARAMETER ); return; } - if (!(thread = get_thread_from_id( req->tid ))) return; + if (!req->tid) thread = (struct thread *)grab_object( current ); + else if (!(thread = get_thread_from_id( req->tid ))) return; if ((hook = add_hook( thread, req->id - WH_MINHOOK ))) { -- Alexandre Julliard julliard(a)winehq.com

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Adobe SVG viewer mouse tracing
by Mike Hearn 31 Oct '02

31 Oct '02

Hi, I have CrossOver beta 1.3 and have got IE6 installed and version 3 of the Adobe SVG viewer. The installer doesn't work, but I got around that problem, the issue I'm interested in solving now is that mouse interaction is messed up, namely that when the plugin receives a mousemove event, it appears to immediately receive another for 0,0 - this is just a theory I've got however. I'm wondering if there's a way to restrict debug logging to code in a particular file? I'm not interested in any mouse messages except those to the COM object in NPSVG3.dll thanks -mike

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winapi_check question...
by Greg Turner 31 Oct '02

31 Oct '02

winapi_check tells me: ndr_stubless.c:86: rpcrt4: LONG_PTR WINAPIV NdrClientCall2(PMIDL_STUB_DESC,PFORMAT_STRING,...): argument 1 documentation: \ /* CLIENT_CALL_RETURN */ rpc_epmap.c:56: rpcrt4: RPC_STATUS WINAPI RpcEpRegisterA(RPC_IF_HANDLE,PRPC_BINDING_VECTOR,PUUID_VECTOR,LPSTR): no translation defined: PRPC_BINDING_VECTOR rpc_epmap.c:56: rpcrt4: RPC_STATUS WINAPI RpcEpRegisterA(RPC_IF_HANDLE,PRPC_BINDING_VECTOR,PUUID_VECTOR,LPSTR): no translation defined: PUUID_VECTOR rpc_epmap.c:102: rpcrt4: RPC_STATUS WINAPI RpcEpUnregister(RPC_IF_HANDLE,PRPC_BINDING_VECTOR,PUUID_VECTOR): argument 2 type is forbidden: PRPC_BINDING_VECTOR (unknown) how shall I deal with these? -- gmt "The purpose of government is to rein in the rights of the people" --President Bill Clinton, MTV interview, 1993

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Re: miscemu/wine gets into the way in map_image
by Uwe Bonnes 31 Oct '02

31 Oct '02

>>>>> "Alexandre" == Alexandre Julliard <julliard(a)winehq.com> writes: Alexandre> Uwe Bonnes <bon(a)elektron.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de> writes: >> However when unzip has unpacked the 160 MByte file and the Setup >> should start, a crash happens, and the debugger startup stops with >> "Memory exhausted". The same happens when I run in winedbg: Loaded >> debug information from ELF >> '/home/bon/tmp/wine/compile/wine/miscemu/wine' (0x00000000) >> Breakpoint 2 at 0x4000c714 (_end+0xf7fec) Memory exhausted. Alexandre> You probably need reduce the base address a bit to leave more Alexandre> space for malloc(). Try changing the 0x3ff to 0x3f0. Now of Alexandre> course we shouldn't be using malloc, so that hack would be a Alexandre> good way to enforce that <g> Alexandre, could we get this into the wine tree? At least one person stumled across that with the same application I had. Bye -- Uwe Bonnes bon(a)elektron.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de Institut fuer Kernphysik Schlossgartenstrasse 9 64289 Darmstadt --------- Tel. 06151 162516 -------- Fax. 06151 164321 ----------

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EMF bug
by doome 31 Oct '02

31 Oct '02

Hi! I am not sure if this is a bug, or I did something wrong. My collegaues made a little program what shows the bug. It shows an EMF file, but the text boxes appears bad. Two screenshots and the source are included in the tar.gz. Please somebody examine it, and help me if you can. The source, binaries, and screenshots can be downloaded from ftp://ftp.uhulinux.hu/misc/testprg.tar.gz. It needs to be exctracted to the wine c:\ directory Thanks for your help in advance! If needed I can send you wine debug msgs. -- doome

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richedit
by Michael Stefaniuc 31 Oct '02

31 Oct '02

Hello, is somebody working on the richedit dll? I encountered 3 unknown RTF control words and wanted to add them but I got scared by the overzealous use of #define's in rtf.h . My first impuls was exchange that with some enum's, but i thought i better ask here before i do the work in vain. bye michael -- Michael Stefaniuc Tel.: +49-711-96437-199 System Administration Fax.: +49-711-96437-111 Red Hat GmbH Email: mstefani(a)redhat.com Hauptstaetterstr. 58 http://www.redhat.de/ D-70178 Stuttgart

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Is it me or is "winedbg --debugmsg -all" not honored
by Uwe Bonnes 30 Oct '02

30 Oct '02

Hallo, did I miss something or is it me or is the registry entry ( as advertised in winedefaults.reg) [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AeDebug] "Debugger"="winedbg --debugmsg -all %ld %ld" not honored any more ( since some time). The relay log is cluttered with about 150k lines of debugger start relay output :-( Bye -- Uwe Bonnes bon(a)elektron.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de Institut fuer Kernphysik Schlossgartenstrasse 9 64289 Darmstadt --------- Tel. 06151 162516 -------- Fax. 06151 164321 ----------

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Re: rpc_H_PL1
by Alexandre Julliard 30 Oct '02

30 Oct '02

Greg Turner <gmturner007(a)ameritech.net> writes: > diff -ur -x CVS -x 'bigdif*' ../wine.test/dlls/rpcrt4/rpc_binding.c ./dlls/rpcrt4/rpc_binding.c > --- ../wine.test/dlls/rpcrt4/rpc_binding.c 2002-10-29 12:59:02.000000000 -0600 > +++ ./dlls/rpcrt4/rpc_binding.c 2002-10-29 13:28:39.000000000 -0600 > @@ -865,14 +865,21 @@ > * Exists in win9x and winNT, but with different number of arguments > * (9x version has 3 arguments, NT has 2). > */ > +#ifdef WINNT > +RPC_STATUS WINAPI I_RpcBindingSetAsync( RPC_BINDING_HANDLE Binding, RPC_BLOCKING_FN BlockingFn) > +#else > RPC_STATUS WINAPI I_RpcBindingSetAsync( RPC_BINDING_HANDLE Binding, RPC_BLOCKING_FN BlockingFn, unsigned long ServerTid ) > +#endif > { This can't work, we are not going to build two versions of Wine with different #ifdefs. We should simply decide which version we support (NT would probably be preferable) and get rid of the #ifdefs in the header. -- Alexandre Julliard julliard(a)winehq.com

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No more Office 11 for Win98/ME
by Uwe Bonnes 30 Oct '02

30 Oct '02

Hallo, e.g. on www.heise.de there is the news that MS announces to drop support for Win98/ME for the next office version. That's probably a point in time when many people will look for alternatives. Hopefully Wine and Linux are in good shape then. Bye -- Uwe Bonnes bon(a)elektron.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de Institut fuer Kernphysik Schlossgartenstrasse 9 64289 Darmstadt --------- Tel. 06151 162516 -------- Fax. 06151 164321 ----------

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Re: Versions & mass-appeal
by Francois Gouget 30 Oct '02

30 Oct '02

On Wed, 30 Oct 2002, Keith Matthews wrote: [...] > Stressing the number of calls in the MS API is another important point > to make, thanks to Andreas for providing an updated figure. For more API stats you can check out the following page (and disclaimer): http://fgouget.free.fr/wine/winapi_stats-en.shtml While I'm writing I will just mention some other links relevant to the 'Wine perception' aspect: * Contributing to Wine Trying to present ways to get started helping Wine. More work is needed on this section and it needs to be made much more visible. http://www.winehq.com/about/index.php?contrib * Why Wine is so important Many people have a primitive 'say no to Windows software' attitude because they do not understand why Wine is important. http://www.winehq.com/about/index.php?why * Debunking Wine Myths These myths are quite common and detract to Wine's image http://www.winehq.com/about/index.php?myths Here's my thoughts on getting more developpers: * I think step one is fixing Wine's perception issues by improving the Web site to make the above more visible, add screenshots and make it easier to navigate. * Step two is to add more resources geared towards new developpers to make it easier for them to get started (e.g. taslets bug list, finish the conformance testing guide, update the developer's guide, etc.). * Step three is to be more outgoing. Do a better job at describing the tasks that need to be done for instance. Let people know that we need help, that with done much with less than one tenth the number of developpers that the Linux kernel has. Someone suggested making Wine presentations at local LUGs. I think that's a goog idea too. I have done some work on the above items (all committed) but I'm not a technical writer so it takes me a lot of time to write documentation and I'm rarely happy with the result. And free time is in very short supply currently. Plus I'm not familiar with PHP which would be required for some of the Web site changes (again a time issue). So please, if anyone feels like updating the web site or writing documentation, go ahead. Wine needs you! -- Francois Gouget fgouget(a)free.fr http://fgouget.free.fr/ $live{free} || die "";

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Re: splitting msvideo/msvfw32
by Alexandre Julliard 30 Oct '02

30 Oct '02

Eric Pouech <eric.pouech(a)wanadoo.fr> writes: > + case DLL_PROCESS_ATTACH: > + if (!GetModuleHandleA("MSVFW32.DLL") && !LoadLibraryA("MSVFW32.DLL")) > + { > + ERR("Could not load sibling MSVfW32.dll\n"); > + return FALSE; > + } Note that this is not necessary. The 32-bit dll is always loaded before the 16-bit one (otherwise we couldn't reference symbols in it). -- Alexandre Julliard julliard(a)winehq.com

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Treeview Notifications Fix (found cause), now I need some help...
by Dustin Navea 30 Oct '02

30 Oct '02

Hey everyone, after about 3 hours of adding traces to treeview.c, I have found the line that is causing all of my headaches! in /wine/dlls/comctl32/treeview.c: in function TREEVIEW_NOTIFYFORMAT i = SendMessageA(GetParent (infoPtr->hwnd), WM_NOTIFYFORMAT, (WPARAM)infoPtr->hwnd, NF_QUERY); SendMessageA is returning 2 (NFR_UNICODE) on the StarCraft installer window. This is incorrect, the return should be 1 (NFR_ANSI). I don't know of any way to get it to return 1 myself as I dont know windows API, so I am asking for some help. can anyone that has some free time and knows the WM subsystem help me out? Please add yourself to CC on bug 1073. TIA -Dustin __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/

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Re: SetWindowHookEx
by steve.lustbader＠philips.com 30 Oct '02

30 Oct '02

>steve.lustbader(a)philips.com writes: > >> My app uses SetWindowHookEx to install a WH_KEYBOARD_LL hook. >> Currently, the wine implementation tells me >> "fixme:hook:set_windows_hook system hook WH_KEYBOARD_LL won't work right" >> when I try to use it. I'd like to implement this so I can get my app to >> run, but I'm not sure where to start, since I don't know why it >> "won't work right." Any hints/suggestions? > >I'm working on it. Basically it won't work right across processes at >this point; if you have a single process it should be OK. > It's returning NULL for me, which implies it isn't working. Is there some sort of trace that I can send you to help you out? -Steve

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Re: What is a leap second
by Peter Ekberg 30 Oct '02

30 Oct '02

Hello! I compiled the following using msvc: ----------8<--------------------------- #include <stdio.h> #include <windows.h> typedef short CSHORT; typedef struct { CSHORT Year; CSHORT Month; CSHORT Day; CSHORT Hour; CSHORT Minute; CSHORT Second; CSHORT Milliseconds; CSHORT Weekday; } TIME_FIELDS, *PTIME_FIELDS; typedef VOID (*RtlTimeToTimeFieldsT) (PLARGE_INTEGER Time, PTIME_FIELDS TimeFields); int main() { LARGE_INTEGER RtlTime; TIME_FIELDS tf; HINSTANCE hLib; RtlTimeToTimeFieldsT RtlTimeToTimeFields; RtlTime.LowPart = 0x20de5700; RtlTime.HighPart = 0x1c27d90; hLib = LoadLibrary("ntdll"); RtlTimeToTimeFields = (RtlTimeToTimeFieldsT)GetProcAddress (hLib, "RtlTimeToTimeFields"); RtlTimeToTimeFields(&RtlTime, &tf); FreeLibrary(hLib); printf("%d %d %d %d %d %d\n", tf.Year, tf.Month, tf.Day, tf.Hour, tf.Minute, tf.Second); return 0; } ----------8<--------------------------- with the following output on win2k. 9 0 10 0 9 10

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listview: last column problem
by Rein Klazes 30 Oct '02

30 Oct '02

Dimitri, The missing last column in newsbin seems to be caused by this line: | if (!lpColumn || nColumn < 0 || nColumn > infoPtr->hdpaColumns->nItemCount) return -1; | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ removing the marked part of the test result in a couple of error messages: | err:listview:LISTVIEW_InsertColumnT nColumn=4, nNewColumn=3 | err:listview:LISTVIEW_InsertColumnT nColumn=4, nNewColumn=3 | err:listview:LISTVIEW_InsertColumnT nColumn=4, nNewColumn=3 but otherwise runs fine. Do you see any objections removing the test and error message? Rein. -- Rein Klazes rklazes(a)xs4all.nl

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Re: PATCH: ppc fix 2
by Greg Turner 30 Oct '02

30 Oct '02

On Wednesday 30 October 2002 07:22 am, Marcus Meissner wrote: > Hi, > > Just a bad macro. > > ciao, marcus > > Changelog: > Fixed LITTLE_ENDIAN_32_READ macro to at least compile. > > Index: ndr_marshall.c > =================================================================== > RCS file: /home/wine/wine/dlls/rpcrt4/ndr_marshall.c,v > retrieving revision 1.9 > diff -u -r1.9 ndr_marshall.c > --- ndr_marshall.c 29 Oct 2002 23:07:33 -0000 1.9 > +++ ndr_marshall.c 30 Oct 2002 13:21:15 -0000 > @@ -59,8 +59,8 @@ > > #define LITTLE_ENDIAN_32_READ(pchar) \ > (MAKELONG( \ > - MAKEWORD(*(pchar), *((pchar)+1)) \ > - MAKEWORD(*((pchar)+2), *((pchar)+3))) > + MAKEWORD(*(pchar), *((pchar)+1)), \ > + MAKEWORD(*((pchar)+2), *((pchar)+3)))) > #endif > > /* oh, it's non-i386 only, and I guess I never tested this one... makes sense now, ignore my previous comment. -- gmt "The purpose of government is to rein in the rights of the people" --President Bill Clinton, MTV interview, 1993

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EMF bug?
by Domsodi Gergely 30 Oct '02

30 Oct '02

Hi! I am not sure if this is a bug, or I did something wrong. My collegaues made a little program what shows the bug. It shows an EMF file, but the text boxes appears bad. Two screenshots and the source are included in the tar.gz. Please somebody examine it, and help me if you can. The source, binaries, and screenshots can be downloaded from ftp://ftp.uhulinux.hu/misc/testprg.tar.gz. It needs to be exctracted to the wine c:\ directory Thanks for your help in advance! If needed I can send you wine debug msgs. -- doome _______________________________________________ wine-users mailing list wine-users(a)winehq.com http://www.winehq.com/mailman/listinfo/wine-users -- Dömsödi Gergely UHU-Linux Csapat

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RE: winapi update
by Patrik Stridvall 30 Oct '02

30 Oct '02

> On October 29, 2002 11:27 am, Patrik Stridvall wrote: > > Anyway, I can't inline my patches the because Microsoft > Outlook wraps > > the lines and I sure a lot of other people that use attachments have > > similar problems. > > And can't be turned off?!? Hmmm, anyway, just attach them as > text/plain. I have no idea how or if it is possible to do either.

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What is a leap second
by György 'Nog' Jeney 30 Oct '02

30 Oct '02

While I was looking through dlls/ntdll/time.c I came across the following two comments: "FIXME: Compute the number of leap second corrections here" and "FIXME: get the GMT offset here" What do these this mean? nog.

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