wine-devel February 2003

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RE: Using the real Windows kernel
by Mathew McBride 04 Feb '03

04 Feb '03

Then how can we figure out how to get a desktop shell working etc? I think the ReactOS project is doing something simular (creating a NT-compatible kernel and I belive they are trying to implement DLL sharing between the two projects) -----Original Message----- From: wine-devel-admin(a)winehq.com [mailto:wine-devel-admin@winehq.com] On Behalf Of David Filskov Sent: Tuesday, 4 February 2003 8:05 AM To: wine-devel(a)winehq.com Subject: Using the real Windows kernel I'm not a programmer and I know this is not your goal... but: Woulden't it help if Windows users just copied the kernel from their Windows installation and used this for an alternative desktop/system? - I mean the Windows NT kernel seems to work alright, but all the things Microsoft put on top of it slows it down and locks people away from settings and confuses them etc... if you had people use the real kernel instead (without offering it online of course) Windows users could use YOUR desktop/GUI implementation but still use all the existing drivers and apps... and have faster and more configurable computer using your alternative desktop. I know a lot of Windows users who would want such an alternative... just a thought... --David Filskov Denmark

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Re: How to remount CDROM during program execution
by r.young＠irl.cri.nz 04 Feb '03

04 Feb '03

Thanks for your three (very different) replies. >From Scott's comments I take it that the mount/unmount of file systems is such a basic part of *nix that it might take some lateral thinking to circumvent it. As for Sylvain's suggestion, I set up automounting this evening, but unfortunately this did not solve my problem: the same processes attached to /dev/cdrom were still open (5 belonging to wine and 1 to wineserver), and <eject> gave a "device busy" response. Tony Lambregts: >What version of Wine are you useing. Disk changing should not be a >problem under the latest releases of Wine. I'm not exactly sure. As you guessed I'm using Transgamings current winex installation (subscription version). >WineX is a different flavor of Wine, So it may still have this problem. In >other words if you have this problem when useing Wine then you should >report it to http://bugs.winehw.org . Since you have this problem under >WineX I guess you should be contacting Transgaming. I guess, except that's where I first posted this message and got no satisfactory response. Perhaps I ought to approach them more directly as you suggest. >I regularly use Riven which >is a five disk set. In order to play the game I have to change disks >when I move from one island to the next. I do recall that about a year >ago that there was a problem in that Wine would not close off files so >that umount would not work. There is one possible significant difference between installation of a program and changing disks in the course of a game as you describe: in the first case wine is running setup.exe which is on the CD, and hence wine has processes open which access the CD drive. In your case wine is running the game program which has been transferred to the hard disk. It is now Riven which accesses the CD drive and (conceivably) when the time comes to change the CD, it will first close down all processes which use the drive. Maybe. Thanks for your comments. I would welcome further discussion if anybody cares to join in. Roger Young r.young(a)irl.cri.nz

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Listbox: LBS_NOSEL needs improvement?
by Ferenc Wagner 03 Feb '03

03 Feb '03

Hello! In listbox.c one can find the following comment: * Probably needs improvement: * - LBS_NOSEL Does anybody know what this means? What is missing? I'm struggling with a listbox which has this attribute, and still it is possible to select from it -- under Windows. Can LBS_OWNERDRAWFIXED interfere with this? By the way, under Wine the WS_VISIBLE and WS_VSCROLL style options are missing on this listbox. However, it has a vertical scrollbar, and visible. :) Is this normal? (I found no documentation for WS_VISIBLE.) Thanks: Feri.

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Large number of patches
by Warren_Baird＠cimmetry.com 03 Feb '03

03 Feb '03

We've been putting a fair bit of work into wine over the last 6-8 months, and we've only recently had time to sit back and make patches- so sometime in the next couple of days I should have about 30 patches to submit. Most of them under 100 lines, but a few are over 200 lines and the biggest is about 600 lines long. Some of them are solaris/big-endian specific, but the majority of them are not. I'll have the patches as separate patch files with ChangeLog entries and descriptions - the question is whether I should submit them to wine-patches as 30 separate email messages or as a single message with 30 attachements... Anyone have a strong preference on this? Anything else special I should do? Warren

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Re: Wineconf 2003
by Shachar Shemesh 03 Feb '03

03 Feb '03

Jeremy White wrote: >For where, I would think it's time to hold it in Europe. > Hear hear. I doubt I'll be able to afford a plane ticket to the U.S. at this stage of my life (turning to the independant life and all). Shachar

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Scrollbars misplaced in several apps
by Dan Kegel 03 Feb '03

03 Feb '03

Several apps I've tried (including my company's app) have scrollbars in the wrong place, inset in the window by one scrollbar width. Duane Clark has seen this, too, and said "... the scrollbars being in the wrong position in the richtext window? I am pretty sure that is a richtext bug. I see it in every application that uses richtext. For example, run notepad and then resize the window. " (I tried running notepad, and couldn't reproduce it myself, so maybe I'm confused.) One app that shows the problem is Resource Hunter (free trial download at http://www.boilsoft.com/rchunter.html). Just start it, and look at the position of the scrollbars in the lower left pane. Is this a well-known problem? I'd like to try fixing it if nobody has a patch yet. Hints welcome. - Dan -- Dan Kegel http://www.kegel.com http://counter.li.org/cgi-bin/runscript/display-person.cgi?user=78045

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start_process
by Auge Mike 03 Feb '03

03 Feb '03

Hi all, Really I need your help to be able to understand how the WINE works internally, so please try to answer my Qs, even if they look easy for you? I need to know why ExitThread is called inside the "start_process" function i.e. which thread we are exiting in this case? Another thing? Which function is responsible for stat executing the binary file? Yours _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

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Re: Initialize listview item size.
by Dimitrie O. Paun 03 Feb '03

03 Feb '03

On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, Duane Clark wrote: > This is a separate bug from the other listview patches. If an app sends > a LISTVIEW_Paint to a new listview before adding any items (which an app > was :-) the item size was not getting set, causing subsequent > LISTVIEW_Paint calls to clip the painting. Sorry Duane, maybe it's just Monday morning, but I don't understand this. If the listview has no items, what is it supposed to paint? Also, this just doesn't seem like the right place to place this check. What if the app doesn't call LVM_SETITEMCOUNT? -- Dimi.

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Yardi works!
by Dan Kegel 03 Feb '03

03 Feb '03

I got Yardi Professional (the low-end version of the products at http://www.yardi.com) running under Wine, at least with its sample database! And it doesn't look bad. I guess someone with a real Yardi installation will just have to try it sometime soon to see if it works on real data, with the data stored on a network drive. - Dan -- Dan Kegel http://www.kegel.com http://counter.li.org/cgi-bin/runscript/display-person.cgi?user=78045

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Re: RPC marshalling patch
by Greg Turner 03 Feb '03

03 Feb '03

On Thursday 30 January 2003 10:44 am, Ove Kaaven wrote: > This one is sure to give Greg something to work with... looks very interesting, indeed. > all of this was > implemented in a bit of a hurry, but since it's based on my research, it > should be a good starting point in understanding how Microsoft's NDR > engine works. It doesn't properly implement marshalling alignment or > memory sizing, may not handle a number of fringe cases, does not conform > to the DCE RPC wire protocol (mostly because I don't have a description of > it... where did you find it, Greg?), and probably needs some cleanup, but I think, I had to sign away my firstborn to OpenGroup for it. If you feel like spending money /and/ signing away your firstborn, this looks like the definitive OpenGroup DCE package: http://www.opengroup.org/products/publications/catalog/t151x.htm and here is some free-as-in-beer RPC 1.1 stuff: http://www.opengroup.org/products/publications/catalog/c706.htm Where, exactly, I got what I have is a bit of a mystery to me :( It looks like it started its journey as postscript so perhaps it's part of the DCERPC source tarball? My old box is booted into the Operation Flashpoint Operating System... er... Windows, I mean... so I can't dig it out from my ext3 partition right now. In your previous patch you mentioned the possibility of a merge situation between us. Indeed, this is probably the case, but it's minor. I've been real busy lately with work, and other non-wine things, so I haven't been forging ahead at my usual clip. There's not a whole lot floating around in my tree that hasn't gone out to wine-patches ATM. -gmt

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wine-devel February 2003