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wine tests
by Ivan Leo Puoti 13 Aug '04

13 Aug '04

On our sf page we now have, under the winetest-200408071000 release, 6 copies of the same file, same name and same size, with the exemption of winetest-200408071000-kevin-mingw.zip that has 6 different sizes. Why is this? Ivan.

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Development model/versioning stuff: Interesting essay on why decentralised versioning is a bad idea
by Mike Hearn 13 Aug '04

13 Aug '04

http://web.mit.edu/ghudson/thoughts/bitkeeper.whynot What are peoples thoughts on this? It's not (despite appearances) an argument against BitKeeper due to licensing concerns, but rather a short paper on why the author believes the "pyramid" patch/development system is a bad idea. Alexandre has shown a strong preference for Arch being the future of Wines development, which basically implies a pyramid development model. So I thought this document would be of interesting. thanks -mike

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Re: ADVAPI32: implement SetThreadToken using NtSetInformationThread
by Dmitry Timoshkov 13 Aug '04

13 Aug '04

"Mike McCormack" <mike(a)codeweavers.com> wrote: > @@ -545,6 +545,12 @@ > case ThreadBasePriority: > case ThreadAffinityMask: > case ThreadImpersonationToken: > + { > + const HANDLE *phToken = data; > + if (length != sizeof(HANDLE)) return STATUS_INVALID_PARAMETER; > + FIXME("Set ThreadImpersonationToken handle to %p\n", *phToken ); > + return STATUS_SUCCESS; > + } Probably ThreadImpersonationToken handling should be isolated from other thread class identifiers otherwise FIXME will be printed for all them as well. -- Dmitry.

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Missing Registry Value "VersionNumber"
by "Adrian Willenbücher" 13 Aug '04

13 Aug '04

I tried to install MS Visual Studio 6, but the install program exited after two seconds without error message. When I read the debug logs, I found out that the installer needs the following value: HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\VersionNumber I had a look at my original Windows (98 SE) system.dat and there the value was set to "4.10.2222". I added the value with regedit in wine and the program was satisfied :-) Does someone know more about this value and its necessity? Should it be added to wine's standard set of registry keys and values? Here are some sites about these version numbers: 1) http://garrett.vdsworld.com/winver.htm 2) http://www.admins-tipps.net/software/microsoft/microsoft_windows_versionen.… 3) Googles translation of 2): http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.admins-tipps… My wine is set to win98 and it doesn't use an original Windows installation. -- NEU: WLAN-Router f�r 0,- EUR* - auch f�r DSL-Wechsler! GMX DSL = superg�nstig & kabellos http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl

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Win API Stats
by Tom 12 Aug '04

12 Aug '04

Hello, The Win API Stats page is broken in a bad way! See: http://www.winehq.org/site/winapi_stats I think we should just go with http://fgouget.free.fr/wine/winapi_stats-en.shtml and link to it. and kindly ask Francois to update it from time to time. And it has always been far better than the page on winehq... just my $.02 Tom

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Re: ATL: DllRegsterServer
by Mike McCormack 12 Aug '04

12 Aug '04

Steven Edwards wrote: > Note: While this does allow my test app to install and run I dont think > this is correct because I dont have the ATL CLSID. > > Changelog: > Implement DllRegsterServer and DllUnregsterServer Windows 2000 has: ["CLSID\\{44EC053A-400F-11D0-9DCD-00A0C90391D3}"] @="Registrar Class" ["CLSID\\{44EC053A-400F-11D0-9DCD-00A0C90391D3}"\\InprocServer32] @="c:\winnt\system32\atl.dll" "ThreadingModel"="Both" Mike

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Re: dsound mixer speedup
by Joerg Mayer 12 Aug '04

12 Aug '04

On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 12:24:20AM -0400, Robert Reif wrote: > Speed up mixing and unmixing by moving sample size and buffer > wrap tests to outside the loop. The code is not as compact or > pretty > but it should be faster. Just out of curiosity: *IS* it really faster? Maybe gcc already did the optimization? Ciao Joerg -- Joerg Mayer <jmayer(a)loplof.de> We are stuck with technology when what we really want is just stuff that works. Some say that should read Microsoft instead of technology.

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Future of .wine/config
by "Adrian Willenbücher" 12 Aug '04

12 Aug '04

Hello! I read on another thread that the config file is going to disappear in future wine versions. While I think that the dosdevices-principle is a good idea (it's very intuitive), there are several disadvantages in moving the content of the config file to the registry: 1. Even if the registry keys and values of wine's configuration should be well documented, it's easier to set some values using a text editor than to use regedit and look for the keys. 2. Although it might be convenient to access both, wine's and the Windows programs' data, using the same functions, this should not be done as there should be a clear distinction between wine and the programs it runs. 3. If a program misbehaves and messes up your registry and/or if you decide to start again with a clean installation, you just delete some registry files and directories and have a new system (I think of the case you don't work in a native Windows installation) without to setup wine's configuration again. 4. To put wine's configuration into the registry is a step towards a "Wine-is-Windows", i.e. not just providing Windows' functionality but also behaving like Windows (and this should be avoided under all circumstances ;-) ). Wine is "just" an emulator for Windows, it is not supposed to be a new "Open Source Windows". The Windows' handling of configuration data (every application puts its data into the same two files: the registry) is inferior compared to the Unix' one's (every application has its own configuration file/directory in a common place). This makes it difficult e.g. to manually deinstall a program/software package. Well, my opinion. What do you think about it? -- NEU: WLAN-Router f�r 0,- EUR* - auch f�r DSL-Wechsler! GMX DSL = superg�nstig & kabellos http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl

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Re: config converting problem
by Mike Hearn 12 Aug '04

12 Aug '04

PS I've added wine-devel back as from the wording it sounded like it was meant to go there: wine-devel is one of these annoying old-skool lists which don't rewrite Reply-To, but that rant is something for another time :) Holly Bostick wrote: > Yeah, fine, "it sucks"-- and I admit that I myself never install to > "C:\Program Files", under Windows or Wine, but geez guys-- who do you > think your users are when you say things like this? > > They're *Windows users*. And that means they probably use the defaults, > and that means that their whole data tree is in ./wine. And if that data > tree meant so much to them that they installed Wine in the first place, > it's kinda cold to say "just blow it away". Well, I'd guess that most users run perhaps one or two apps in Wine at the most, unlike Windows users who run lots and lots of apps. So every so often reinstalling these programs is not such a big deal, unless you have things like the Office XP activation scheme which don't like that. > They're non-technical (a behaviour encouraged by being a Windows user). > So while I'm sure they're used to "blowing away" their Windows > installation regularly (due to the "non-technical" nature of things like > My Documents rather than putting your bloody docs on another partition > rather than C:\, for example), since half the reason to move to Linux is > to put an end to that necessity, it seems a bit odd to reinstate it here. Yeah, I agree that at minimum we should force My Documents elsewhere, and maybe have wineprefixcreate link H: to $HOME along with putting a label on that drive saying "Save Your Files Here" (or whatever). > Wouldn't it just make more sense to *separate the config files from the > (wine) system files*?? Why in the heck is fake_windows in the ./wine > directory anyway??? Good question. I suspect the answer is "because it's always been there" :) > 1) it's hidden, so if I'm inexperienced and non-technical, I don't even > know where my programs are; Yes this is a fairly common question. TransGaming put a ~/Transgaming_Drive symlink in the home dir. Proposal: patch wineprefixcreate to build "~/Virtual C Drive" as the users fake windows tree (notice the lack of ugly underscores)? Cons: - Some users may not like it (really there's not much useful stuff in there except the program EXEs) - Are there issues with spaces in the paths used for these drives? I don't think we want to have underscores here - Localization: do we really want to translate "Virtual C Drive" into a bazillion languages? If so is the support hassle of having everybodies C drive in a different place worth it? OTOH you can say "the C drive is always in ~/.wine/dosdevices/c:/*" and be done with it. > 2) there is no reason I should have to "blow away" my data just because > I have to blow away the config. Reinstalling a program over itself is > far far easier than reinstalling it from scratch, and that doesn't even > cover the pure data that might be in "C:\My Documents". Well by "config" we mean: * Drive mappings * Registry * Config file, or what's left of it :) In future the config file will disappear and you'll only have the registry. The problem is we don't have a good way to upgrade it. Currently once the users .wine is created their registry is "static" and even if we improve the default registry it'll never be recreated. Ditto for COM registrations, they are only done at wineprefixcreate time as well. This comes back to the discussions me, Dimi and Alexandre were having a while ago. So for now the easiest way to make sure you're up to date is just to reinstall stuff because if you delete the registry, you also lose app settings and quite a few programs don't like their registry trees disappearing. > And I don't see why we don't gently educate the users in the importance > of this issue (as a dedicated dialog would certainly do), but instead > just let them keep on doing things the same old crummy Windows way, as > if it was ever a good idea. Many users don't read info/error dialogs especially when technical, likewise Wine has to be auto-configuring. Not only is it required by most packaging technologies (they don't allow user interaction, often by design) but if we want Wine to ever stabilise and become a part of most distros base sets again it has to involve zero user interaction to setup.

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Re: developers-hints.diff
by Ivan Leo Puoti 12 Aug '04

12 Aug '04

> I dont think so....... I know, sorry about that, but in the wine-patches archives there appears to be an extra space amstream/ - MultiMedia Streams + atl/ - Active Template Library avicap32/ - AVI capture window class but if I do the diffing on my pc I don't get this. But patching works with both your patch, that appears to have the extra space, but doesn't, and with my patch that doesn't appear to have an extra space. I have of what is going on. BTW the patch that I sent was edited manually, so had a missing space at every added line. Ivan.

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Re: X11DRV: Fix signed/unsigned comparison warnings
by Rein Klazes 12 Aug '04

12 Aug '04

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 23:10:29 +0200, you wrote: > static int LookupEntry(LFANDSIZE *plfsz) > { > - int i, prev_i = -1; > + unsigned int i; > + int prev_i = -1; > > for(i = mru; i >= 0; i = glyphsetCache[i].next) { ^^^^^^^ Hey, this comparison is now always true, does gcc does not warn about this? I am afraid that this exercition is in many cases changing perfectly valid C code, but with warning, to possibly buggy code without warnings. I do not like this idea at all. Rein. -- Rein Klazes rklazes(a)xs4all.nl

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RESEND CryptEnumProviders a->w cleanup and tests
by James Hawkins 12 Aug '04

12 Aug '04

Hi, I'm not sure whether these two patches were misplaced or they were considered not good enough to be committed, but I've included the patches now. I spent a lot of time hunting down any bugs in my unicode version of CryptEnumProviders as well as writing tests of its functionality. All the tests succeed except for one (wrong error message being sent back from undersized buffer) but that bug is a part of the original CryptEnumProviders as well and as soon as this patch can be committed, I can submit a fix for that bug. If there turns out to be problems with the patch, or the style is not up to par with wine coding standards, please let me know, because I really want to get this committed. -- James Hawkins

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Re: X11DRV: Fix signed/unsigned comparison warnings
by Alexandre Julliard 11 Aug '04

11 Aug '04

Hans Leidekker <hans(a)it.vu.nl> writes: > Changelog: > Fix signed/unsigned comparison warnings A number of these changes are wrong. Please be more careful when doing that sort of thing, only change the ones you are absolutely sure about. We don't want to introduce bugs just to silence warnings. -- Alexandre Julliard julliard(a)winehq.org

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Re: developers-hints.diff
by Tom 11 Aug '04

11 Aug '04

On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 00:10:04 +0200, Ivan Leo Puoti <puoti(a)inwind.it> wrote: >> Please explain ????? > You added an extra space before every line you added to the file. I dont think so....... Tom > > Ivan.

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Re: appdb dump
by Jeremy Newman 11 Aug '04

11 Aug '04

This is getting to be a common request. I think what I am going to do is make a script that tars up the appdb every night and puts it up for download. The only table it will not dump will be the userdb, for privacy reasons. I'll email you all again when I have something whipped up. On Thu, 2004-06-24 at 18:12, Joel Konkle-Parker wrote: > I'm trying to set up a copy of appdb on localhost to play with (and > hopefully use as a base for patches for you guys). Do you think I could > get a dump of the apps tables so that I can have a good set to test with? -- _ _ WebGeek/SysAdmin CodeWeavers -= http://www.codeweavers.com | \| |_____ __ ___ __ __ _ _ _ -= http://www.dracowulf.com | .` / -_) | | / ' \/ _` | ' \ -= mailto:jnewman@codeweavers.com |_|\_\___|\_/\_/|_|_|_\__,_|_||_| -= ICQ: 1711553 Yahoo: laxdragon

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Different X Displays and Wine
by Boaz Harrosh 11 Aug '04

11 Aug '04

I'm trying to connect and run a remote X session from 2 different machines and I fail to run Wine applications. - I connect from Machine M1 using ssh -X (or -Y) run a wine app all is very well. - I connect from another Machine M2 using ssh -X using the same user. The second instance fails with: <message> X Error of failed request: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) Major opcode of failed request: 15 (X_QueryTree) Resource id in failed request: 0xa0002b Serial number of failed request: 137 Current serial number in output stream: 137 </message> Needless to say that if I exit the Wine application on M1 than M2 will run with out any problems. [Q] Is it at-all possible to run Wine on 2 different $DISPLAY s, or is the X-Server a Wine-Server resource. Will using a different user help? Will using desktop mode help? Has any one been successful with letting different network users connect and run Windows Apps under wine? How did they Setup wine? How does Codeweavers do it with their Server Product? Thanks in advance for any help (or failure reports) any one can give me. Free Life Boaz

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Re: Small make compatibility changes (take 2)
by Alexandre Julliard 11 Aug '04

11 Aug '04

Vincent Béron <vberon(a)mecano.gme.usherb.ca> writes: > This seems to let users build and uninstall with BSD make. > > Changelog: > Evaluate variable after replacement to build with BSD make. Unfortunately assignments with := are not portable either, so it's only moving the problem. We probably need to restructure the makefiles a bit to avoid that construct. -- Alexandre Julliard julliard(a)winehq.org

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Help with winemaker
by Veerendra Tippanagoudar 11 Aug '04

11 Aug '04

Hi, I am trying to port a project from windows to unix. I have installed redhat 7.0. After installing wine, i tried using winemaker on a set of modules that are interdependent. By modules, I mean sub-programs. When I run winemaker from the top of the project directory, it creates only Makefile and no configure, configure.in and Makefile.in scripts. Therefore I am not able to use ./configure --with-wine=/usr/local/wine. Since, I cannot run the ./configure command, I am not able to run the make command. Why are the configure and other files not being generated? Any help would really be appreciated. My project uses, C and C++ code. Thank you, Veerendra Tippanagoudar. P.S: The documentation online is not complete (especially the Makefile.in and Configure.in part). --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage!

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Re: USB?
by Rolf Kalbermatter 11 Aug '04

11 Aug '04

Aric Stewart wrote: >I do have some difficulty figuring out how win2k is translating vender >and product ids into class and interface guids. The documentation >reports that they look them up in inf files, however i am finding that >not to be true. I am suspecting that some may be hardcoded in the usb >support somewhere. Wouldn't that be something which would be put in the registry somehow for the well known IDs and for the rest I really assume the device detection routine does check for all .inf files it finds on the devices currently configured to be searched. If you look at PCI and USB inf files you will notice that the manufacturer and device ID are actually encoded in the key names which are to be added to the registry. That encoding does not always seem to be equally consistent, I've seen at least two different types, but it is obviously there. One entry for instance for the Logitec PageScanner would be %USB\VID_046D&PID_040f.DeviceDesc%=Model.PageScan_USB,USB\VID_046D&PID_040f USB\VID_046D&PID_040f.DeviceDesc="Storm Technology - Logitech PageScan USB" This is partly extracted from a logiscan.inf file on my W2K system. Rolf Kalbermatter

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winedbg doesn't find source files
by Saulius Krasuckas 11 Aug '04

11 Aug '04

When using CVS version of Wine I cannot get much debug: [s2@katleriai Spawn]$ WINEDEBUG=+volume winedbg winecfg fixme:console:SetConsoleCtrlHandler (0x4066a644,1) - no error checking or testing yet WineDbg starting on pid 0xa In 32 bit mode. Unable to open file /process.c Wine-dbg>br GetDriveTypeW fixme:dbghelp:elf_lookup_symtab Already found symbol add_paint_count (/usr/src/wine-cvs/wine/dlls/user/../../windows/painting.c) in symtab painting.c @00074738 and painting.c @000a026c fixme:dbghelp:elf_load_debug_info Unsupported Dwarf2 information Breakpoint 1 at 0x403be249 GetDriveTypeW [volume.c:1418] in kernel32 Wine-dbg>c fixme:winecfg:WinMain The winecfg tool is not yet complete, and does not actually alter your configuration. fixme:winecfg:WinMain If you want to alter the way Wine works, look in the ~/.wine/config file for more information. trace:volume:GetVolumeInformationW cannot open device L"\\\\.\\C:": err 2 Stopped on breakpoint 1 at 0x403be249 GetDriveTypeW [volume.c:1418] in kernel32 Unable to open file volume.c Wine-dbg>list 10 Wine-dbg>quit WineDbg terminated on pid 0xa I have had a long period of time not using the winedbg, so I cannot tell whether it is a regression. I am using "./configure && make depend && make" to build the Wine and then something like a "sudo make install", if that matters. I need an advice on how to setup winedbg the right way or an explanation, whether this is a bug or an advanced feature. TIA.

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no scrollbar with native comctl
by Nicolai Kuntze 11 Aug '04

11 Aug '04

Hi, I have tried my bug (2302) with mostly every dll in the native version. But the scrollbars are unvisible. The programm works fine under Windows. Can someone help me? Nicolai ---- Diese Nachricht wurde auf Viren und andere gefaehrliche Inhalte sowie Spam untersucht.

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responses
by Patrick C McKelvey 11 Aug '04

11 Aug '04

I am responding to the italicized note in the user manual (pdf). 1) Your early adopters probably do not look at the user manual any more. 2) Having written some documents like this, I do not believe that most people realize how difficult it is to make a process simple and clear without making it insulting. A company I used to work for had a 5 day course on writing user manual and procedures that they marketed nation wide. I do not know if the still do so. I went through that course and it was amazingly difficult. All you need to do is write down what to do and no one will understand you. 3) Those who are into Linux are into the bleeding edge of technology and want to make it run, not tell others how to make it run. An audience of true nerds, and I will raise my hand, will like to see the thing work. Documentation is in last place. I appreciate what you run into on the thankless task of documentation and keeping it current. My guess is that this is the one thing that is the major weak spot in Linux. If anything except perhaps support, will kill Linux, it will be lousy documentation. Having been a Unix system administrator for a long while, I have seen great systems go away because of documentation or support. Legato nearly went under because of support. The system is good, I chose it to back up 25 production Unix boxes into a tape silo over a 1G fiber network. After I left, I understand they went with another system because they could no longer get any answers to their questions and the documentation was not clear. I am retired on disability now. I have heard rumors that Legato has turned the problems around and is recovering some of it's lost market share. I have just started trying to use Wine on Fedora Core2 and I will be reading all the documentation. What I have seen so far has been well done. I will be finding out if it still applies, and applies to Quicken 2004 Deluxe. Sincerely yours, Patrick C. McKelvey PE Cincinnati, Ohio pmckelvey(a)zoomtown.com

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dosmem: MCB implementation
by markus.amsler＠oribi.org 11 Aug '04

11 Aug '04

Hi, I'm trying to run freecom[1] of the freedos project in wineconsole. After changing comspec in user.reg and some ugly hacks to kernel/dosmem.c it runs (dosmem_paragraph.patch). But it will never run cleanly without proper MCB support (it does its own MCB-chain walking, like a lot of other programms). I tried to implement it (dos_mcb.patch also ugly), and now i have some design questions: - where to implement MCB's? kernel or winedos? (the PSP from winedos is needed to write the MCB and the first MCB is needed in winedos DOS_LOL[2]) - how to get rid of the separtion hack of DOSMEM[3] - what about the use of DOSMEM in global16.c, do they need also MCB's (found no docu about the GA_DOSMEM flag) Markus [1] http://freedos.sourceforge.net/freecom/FreeCOM.html [2] http://source.winehq.org/source/dlls/winedos/devices.c#L478 [3] http://source.winehq.org/source/dlls/kernel/kernel32.spec#L1164

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Dockable Toolbar painting issue on SUSE 9.1
by Krishna Murthy 10 Aug '04

10 Aug '04

I am facing the following issue on SUSe pro 9.1, but this issue is not happening on RH 9.1. - The MFC application has the dockable toolbar - When I undock the toolbar to display ad popup window, the screen is not refreshed and when I see the trace, the X11DRV_SetWindowPos() is called ininitely. - Any one faced this issue? - Could you please point me to the wine code source files related to toolbar / dockable controls so that I could debug where the problem is occurring. The SUSe pro 9.1 has the follwoing library versions: XFree86-fonts-scalable-4.3.99.902-40 XFree86-libs-4.3.99.902-40 XFree86-Mesa-devel-4.3.99.902-40 XFree86-fonts-75dpi-4.3.99.902-40 XFree86-4.3.99.902-43.25 XFree86-Mesa-4.3.99.902-40 XFree86-devel-4.3.99.902-40 XFree86-server-glx-4.3.99.902-40 XFree86-server-4.3.99.902-43.25 XFree86-Xvnc-4.3.99.902-40 kdebase3-SuSE-9.1-18.1 kdebase3-3.2.1-68.15 Thanks in advance, Krishna Murthy Gupta Technologies LLC TEL: (650) 596-4828 E-mail: Krishna.Murthy(a)guptaworldwide.com

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RE: Wine devel: Two MFC bugs
by Green, Shaun E. 10 Aug '04

10 Aug '04

>This is a known problem. Our edit control does not currently support the ES_RIGHT style at this time. Okay, thanks for letting me know. > The second bug is that when I multi-select files to perform an > operation on, nothing happens. One selected file works fine, but any > additional ones cause nothing to happen. Works fine in Windows. >What control are you using for the multi-select? ofn.Flags = OFN_ALLOWMULTISELECT | OFN_HIDEREADONLY | OFN_FILEMUSTEXIST | OFN_EXPLORER ; Here is the dialog code; szFileName[0] = '\0'; OPENFILENAME ofn; ofn.lStructSize = sizeof (OPENFILENAME); ofn.hwndOwner = this->m_hWnd; ofn.hInstance = NULL; #if _LANGUAGE==FRENCH ofn.lpstrFilter = "Fichiers TXT\0*.txt\0\0"; #elif _LANGUAGE==ENGLISH ofn.lpstrFilter = "txt (*.txt)\0*.txt\0\0"; #endif ofn.lpstrCustomFilter = NULL; ofn.nMaxCustFilter = 0; ofn.nFilterIndex = 0; ofn.lpstrFile = szFileName; ofn.nMaxFile = _MAX_PATH+50000; ofn.lpstrFileTitle = NULL; ofn.nMaxFileTitle = 0; ofn.lpstrInitialDir = pDoc->repertoire; ofn.lpstrTitle = NULL; ofn.Flags = OFN_ALLOWMULTISELECT | OFN_HIDEREADONLY | OFN_FILEMUSTEXIST | OFN_EXPLORER ; ofn.nFileOffset = 0; ofn.nFileExtension = 0; ofn.lpstrDefExt = NULL; #ifdef _DEBUG ofn.lCustData = 1L; #else ofn.lCustData = 0L; #endif ofn.lpfnHook = NULL; ofn.lpTemplateName = NULL; if (GetOpenFileName (&ofn)) { Thanks, Shaun

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