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DEVELOPERS-HINTS.diff
by Tom 28 Dec '03

28 Dec '03

Hi, Changelog add newdev section, update DMusic section, small fix to dpnhpast Tom

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HTML Doc generation...
by Joshua Walker 28 Dec '03

28 Dec '03

Hi all, Well, I've pulled down a CVS copy of wine and I'm currently at work overhauling the API documentataion. I do have some nitpicks. 1) I'm using the HTML documentation (make doc-html) to check my work. An issue I kind of have with this is an index.html isn't generated. This would be most trivial as all it has to be is an alphabetical link to a.html, b.html, c.html etc...unless there is an index and I'm not seeing it. Also, in the lettered indexes, a delemiter, like a <hr> tag between the API function calls and the dll names would be nice. My perl-foo is quite weak. I'll see what I can hack togeather myself... -Joshua

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Initial feedback
by tom alderweireldt 27 Dec '03

27 Dec '03

Hello, I've just started to work my way through your Wine User Guide. I'm not a complete newbie (I've been playing with Linux for a while on a dual boot PC), but I'm certainly not a specialist. It looks like my RedHat 8.0 default installation came with Wine-20020605. I searched for the check & configuration tools you recommend on pages 16 and 17, but they were missing. I found the winecheck script, but that returned an appallingly low score of only 1.78% after I copied the default config file on a freshly created /.wine directory. So I'm now trying to figure out wether I try to get the configuration right for the existing default Wine installation or just throw it away and restart from scratch with the latest source code. So far your user guide is quite helpful, but it looks like I have a loooong way to go to a working Wine setup. Thanks for the starting text anyway, I'll let you know suggestions for improvement, Best Regards, Tom Alderweireldt

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Mouse cursor doesn't switch correctly...
by Robert van Herk 27 Dec '03

27 Dec '03

Hi folks, I may be asking for a needle in the haystack, but: While playing Warcraft III under Wine, I noticed something odd. Warcraft uses both a hand as a mouse cursor as a target (circle with cross in the middle) icon. In ordinary Win32, these two seem to switch. Under wine, however, only the target cursor is visible. That means that I as a user have to click to right below to the spot i would click intuivily, since I see a target, but the program thinks I'm using the hand as a pointer. I would like to solve this issue by creating some kinda patch, but I have no idea what might be going wrong... Do you have any clues? Grtz, Robert

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Re: FindWindow should not match against partial names
by Eric Pouech 27 Dec '03

27 Dec '03

Mike Hearn wrote: > - if (GetWindowTextW( list[i], buffer, len ) && !strcmpiW( buffer, title )) break; a simpler fix would be to use len + 1 instead of len here. A+ -- Eric Pouech

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Status ToDo's
by Tom 27 Dec '03

27 Dec '03

Anyone have any comments, or something they believe I should add before I send the patch? Tom

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Thanks (Monkey Island 4 success)
by Robert Bihlmeyer 26 Dec '03

26 Dec '03

After abstaining from commercial games for a couple of years I found three Windows games under the Christmas tree this time. I was a bit nervous as I no longer have a working Windows partition. I only tried one game (Esacape From Monkey Island) so far and it was a shattering success. I did have to read some Wine docs and fiddle around with settings for half an hour, but after that the game runs flawlessly in its OpenGL mode. I'm skipping further details[1] as this mail's main purpose is to *thank* you all for the great piece of work that Wine is! Merry Christmas, or whatever makes your holiday, -- Robbe [1] I'll post these to appdb.winehq.org, and of course will answer mail if anyone wants to know more.

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Wine/Agent freezes with deadkeys
by Gerhard W. Gruber 26 Dec '03

26 Dec '03

I' m running KDE 3.1.4 and as keyboard I have the US w/deadkeys activated to get german umlauts. I noticed frequent freezes in Agent when I typed new messages and now I know when it happens. I have to press the ' or " key in order to get accented chracters or Umlaute. When I press this key Agent freezes, I can see a defunct wine prozess and I have to kill the wineserver. I haven' t seen anything on the console though. No errormessage or nothing. Now I switched to normal US keyboard and, as you can see above, I can use these characters. -- Gerhard Gruber Maintainer of SoftICE for Linux - http://sourceforge.net/projects/pice Fast application launcher - http://sourceforge.net/projects/launchmenu

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dphnpast.dll
by Tom 26 Dec '03

26 Dec '03

Hello, Is this a suitable link for dpnhpast docs?? http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/directx9_c… Anyone here care to comment on this? or have a good doc link to dpnhpast :-) Tom

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Using help files of windows programs
by Zimler Attila 25 Dec '03

25 Dec '03

Hi, I have a (of course a legal) Borland C++ Builder. Could I use somehow the help files from it? (wo rebooting to windows) Attila

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d3dim.dll
by Tom 25 Dec '03

25 Dec '03

Hello, On the Status page should I go with this Doc url: http://www.gamedev.net/reference/articles/article869.asp That has many links and one that points to: http://iki.fi/sol/tut2.html Or just go with: http://msdn.microsoft.com/archive/default.asp?url=/archive/en-us/dnardir3d/… Anyone care to say wich of the two are better? Tom

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d3dim.dll
by Tom 25 Dec '03

25 Dec '03

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Re: Easy IE installer script
by Ivan Leo Murray-Smith 25 Dec '03

25 Dec '03

>It may be that installing IE under Wine at all is outside the IE license. I've been told by M$ Italy that if I have a windows license for my pc, I can install any M$ windows OS component, such as media player or IE, even if windows is not installed. The important thing is that one must have the license, that's why I think the script should get the files from the windows CD. Ivan.

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Re: Easy IE installer script
by Ivan Leo Murray-Smith 25 Dec '03

25 Dec '03

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Frustration
by Zimler Attila 25 Dec '03

25 Dec '03

Hi, I'm triing to find an error to work on. I was happy that so many people gave me hints on what should be fix. I tried to understand things but, it seems that this is to big thing for me at this moment. Could somebody assign me a little task in a bigger which (s)he is working on? And explain details on that. It seems that I need a "virtual" boss while learning wine hacking. Attila

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Re: Easy IE installer script
by Ivan Leo Murray-Smith 24 Dec '03

24 Dec '03

> I have an Idea > > What is the version of VC++ you have? > > What if you write and compile let's say, a small app that uses MFC and > IE, using the VC++ tool-chain. Than you are a legal distributer of M$ > software, end of problem. Do you want that I send you a small windows > app that uses MFC and embeds an IE control that displays an embedded > HTML page. This could be the final step in the installation where you > actually test the installation. It can be a nice HTML with links to the > site and other nice links like winehq.org > > About a windows only platforms. They had such an illegal clause in VC6 > but they fixed it fast in SP3 and up. If you have VC6 than the SP5 is > free (I think). I've never heard of a license fee for a SP, so it should be free. This sound at last like a reasnoble solution, even if it could be kept M$ free by using the users windows CD. > > By the way, I'll check it later, but I think that if you use IE in your > application than you are allowed to also distribute the IE setup, > provided that you use the original M$ setup where the user presses on > the Agree to the M$ EULA You would need a redistributable, but it isn't on the M$ download site, so I'm not sure it exists. This is really not an issue, as the user can download it from M$. You could use the example of the NTFS captive driver, just ask the user if he has a windows license, if he answers yes, download the setup from the M$ web site, and if the user doesn't have a license it's his problem. Also M$ can't claim the download is illegal, as they host it. Ivan.

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Useful document on critical sections
by Mike Hearn 24 Dec '03

24 Dec '03

Hi, I found this article: http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/03/12/CriticalSections/ There are two points of interest that we don't seem to cover: * RtlpWaitForCriticalSection will NOT block if the process is shutting down and the wait is on the loader lock. I've seen a fair few times when an app deadlocks on shutdown on the loader lock - could this be the cause? * The loader lock is stored at offset 0xA0 in the PEB. I doubt this is important, but now the info is published murphies law says one day an app will try and get to it directly. thanks -mike

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More exec-shield problems
by Mike Hearn 24 Dec '03

24 Dec '03

Hi, When /proc/sys/kernel/exec-shield is set to 1, the StarCraft installer crashes. (it doesn't matter what the -randomize option is set to). It appears then that exec-shield screws things up in more subtle ways than just stopping us mapping the binary. The details of the crash are that the game allocates some memory using RtlAllocateHeap, uses MultiByteToWideStr to fill it, then calls GetStringTypeW on the memory, which crashes with an access violation. There is a way to link wine such that execshield will be switched off, some linker flag. Does anybody know how to integrate that with the Wine build system? thanks -mike

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Re: Easy IE installer script
by hatky 24 Dec '03

24 Dec '03

I tried it out, seems ie6 setup fails with current CVS, says something on low mem or lack of space. Mandrake Linux 9.2 with all patches and latest CVS wine, Hatky. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/

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newbie wine developer question
by Zimler Attila 24 Dec '03

24 Dec '03

Hi, Since I'm new in developing wine please forgive me if I ask a question that is answered earlier (I tried to search an answer for my questions, but I did not found.) 1) Should I report fixme's in bugzilla? (I guess, not, but I'm not sure). 2) I would like to fix some fixme (which I can reproduce), but I don't understand a lot of thins. (I'm new to wine, but not new to C). Could somebody help me to start involved in the development process? Attila ZIMLER

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Problems building wine
by iain 24 Dec '03

24 Dec '03

When building wine using the wineinstall script I'm getting the following errors make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/local/src/wine-20031212/dlls/glu32' gcc -shared -Wl,-Bsymbolic,-z,defs glu32.spec.o glu.o glu32.dll.dbg. o -o glu32.dll.so -L../../libs/wine -lwine -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lSM -lICE -lXxf86dga -lXxf86vm -lXrandr -lXrender -lXv -lXext -lX11 -lGL -lGLU - L../../libs/port -lwine_port -lm -lc glu.o: In function `wine_gluNewTess': /usr/local/src/wine-20031212/dlls/glu32/../../include/winbase.h:1949: undefined reference to `HeapAlloc' glu.o: In function `wine_gluDeleteTess': /usr/local/src/wine-20031212/dlls/glu32/../../include/winbase.h:1949: undefined reference to `HeapFree' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status If I disable the opengl stuff, then it gets to the ddraw directory and gives similar errors (but about 1000 more of them). This is with both CVS head from today and with the 2003-12-12 snapshot tarball. Anyone got any ideas? iain

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Re: Easy IE installer script
by Ivan Leo Murray-Smith 24 Dec '03

24 Dec '03

> MSVCRT40/MFC40 aren't components of windows though, they are > redistributable DLLs that come with apps. They come with apps because the vendors of those apps have a license from M$ to redistribute them. You need such a license before you can redistribute them. > Well, I'm pretty sure that sort of clause would be illegal, they can't > say "such and such can only be run on Windows", as that'd be tying a > product to a monopoly. I'm sure it's illegal, but that's how things are. Anybody (DOJ?) could sue them on that point, are you going to have a go? As I don't think you developed the script with a M$ tool that comes with a license that allows you to distribute M$ dlls for whatever platform, this is irrelevant. > If they start claiming that the MFC DLL can only be used on genuine > Windows, then we have much bigger problems than having to pull a > convenience script - that would make many programs unrunnable on Wine > (but of course they cannot say this, so that's not a problem). No, if an app is developed for windows using M$ tools/sdk/compiler, but a user runs the app on wine, it is perfectly legal. Well, technically some M$ lawyer may say it isn't, but nobody would be liable. > Well this is what Microsoft claim, but the distinction has never really > been spelled out. MSN Messenger comes with Windows too - does that make > it an OS component? I'm not sure. The antitrust case about this is not over, actually Bill testified at it recently, and maybe D.C. and the ten suing states will win. If they do, there may be builds of windows without OE/IE/MSN, but I don't think there will be OE/IE/MSN that can legally run without a windows license. > I have an old copy of MSVC++ lying around here somewhere anyway, so I > guess I do have a license. If I can't find it then buying a new one from > ebay or something is not too hard. Have a look at the license and see what it says. > The easiest solution is to simply use wget to fetch the files from > dll-files.com : a very silly getout clause that probably wouldn't make > much difference in a court of law, but hopefully we will never have to > find out. dll-files is a illegal site, M$ doesn't do anything about it but it stays illegal, so it may be a problem because I think the DMCA says you can't link illegal software (I suppose that's why nobody in the US links to linux dvd players with decks) Ivan.

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Re: Problems with Ultima Online: Age of Shadows [Textbox glitch + out of memory error]
by Flameeyes 24 Dec '03

24 Dec '03

Flameeyes wrote: > The second is a big problem: when starting the client, it gives an out of > memory error. I can't find where the problem is because I don't know for > sure which trace channel has the functions for memory statistics. This seems to the cause of the problem: 0009:Call kernel32.CreateFileA(4a0f69f0 "C:\\Programmi\\Ultima Online\\\\stadifi0.mul",80000000,00000001,00000000,00000003,10000080,00000000) ret=004ff693 0009:Ret kernel32.CreateFileA() retval=00000158 ret=004ff693 0009:Call kernel32.CreateFileMappingA(00000158,00000000,00000002,00000000,00000000,00000000) ret=004ff712 0009:Ret kernel32.CreateFileMappingA() retval=0000015c ret=004ff712 0009:Call kernel32.MapViewOfFile(0000015c,00000004,00000000,00000000,00000000) ret=004ff78f 0009:Ret kernel32.MapViewOfFile() retval=00000000 ret=004ff78f 0009:Call user32.MessageBoxA(00000000,005bdf70 "There is not enough memory to continue execution. If you do not have virtual me"...,005be05c "Out of memory",00000000) ret=004d949b so the problem should be into MapViewOfFile (kernel/virtual.c), retval=00000000 (NULL) is a failure. Because the return NULL is only in an if, the problem is inherited from NtMapViewOfSection, that is in ntdll/virtual.c. This function seems to be a lot complex, I need to dig it to found the problem. -- Flameeyes <dgp85(a)users.sourceforge.net> You can find LIRC for 2.6 kernels at http://flameeyes.web.ctonet.it/

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wine-20031212 defaults to Thai ui?!
by Dan Kegel 24 Dec '03

24 Dec '03

This is hilarious... I just built wine-20031212 from source (using tools/wineinstall), and... all the menus are in Thai. Even if I run winefile, or a real copy of notepad.exe. Even if I set LANG=C before running. WTF? - Dan

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Problems with Ultima Online: Age of Shadows [Textbox glitch + out of memory error]
by Flameeyes 24 Dec '03

24 Dec '03

Hi all! I was trying to run Ultima Online: Age of Shadows (latest patchlevel after autopatch), but I have some problems. The first problem is actually a glitch, in autopatcher, when the textbox is moved at end, the text is hide, because it moves as first character of the textbox the after-the-last character of the text in it. The second is a big problem: when starting the client, it gives an out of memory error. I can't find where the problem is because I don't know for sure which trace channel has the functions for memory statistics. If someone has an hint for me, I'll investigate better and try to fix it. -- Flameeyes <dgp85(a)users.sourceforge.net> You can find LIRC for 2.6 kernels at http://flameeyes.web.ctonet.it/

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