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Fun projects
by Dimitrie O. Paun 09 Nov '02

09 Nov '02

Folks, It's Friday, I'm out of my meetings, weather is superb here in Toronto (so I'm gonna go for a ride on my bike); this calls for some lighter, more entertaining stuff. So, if someone feels like doing something fun, here is a list of interesting Wine-related projects: 1. compile & run Wine under Cygwin (in Windows) This is too cool for words, when it's going to work. It will stress the heck out of Cygwin (good test case), improve out portability 2. compile & run Cygwin under Wine (in Linux) This is also way cool, being the complement of 1. It will stress Wine a lot (another good test case), improve Cygwin portability 3. compile wxWindows/QT/Gtk+ (in Linux), under Wine All of these libraries compile under Windows. So they should compile under Wine just fine. Another superb test case for Wine. 4. make a ghostscript driver that uses Wine to print When we are going to support native Windows printer drivers, this is going to allow ghostscript to use any of the existing gazillion printer drivers out there. 5. compile OSS apps that compile under Windows under Wine This includes stuff like Mozilla, Gimp-Win32, etc. Lots of these are around, many of them hosted at http://sourceforge.net In fact, imagine if we get 3 done, and we can get all KDE/GNOME working in Wine! (I know it's not easily possible, but just the possibility is there :)) And yeah, don't ask me 'why would you want to do that?'. The answer is: Because We Can! :) Really folks, just think how cool these are! ;) Comments, suggestions, additions, are welcome. -- Dimi.

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Re: StretchDIBits
by Dmitry Timoshkov 09 Nov '02

09 Nov '02

<steve.lustbader(a)philips.com> wrote: > According to my quick test on WinXP, StretchDIBits returns 0 if > lpBits or lpBitsInfo is NULL. Wine currently produces an unhandled > exception if lpBitsInfo is null. > > ChangeLog: > Prevent StretchDIBits from producing an unhandled exception if > lpBitsInfo is null. > > (See attached file: stretchdibits.diff) > --- objects/dib.c 23 Oct 2002 18:50:10 -0000 1.70 > +++ objects/dib.c 8 Nov 2002 18:49:19 -0000 > @@ -157,6 +157,9 @@ > DC *dc = DC_GetDCUpdate( hdc ); > if(!dc) return FALSE; > + if (!bits || !info) > + return 0; You have to verify parameters before DC pointer and GDI lock are grabbed, otherwise we'll get a nice dead lock. -- Dmitry.

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Re: Small fix for db2html-winehq
by Jeremy White 09 Nov '02

09 Nov '02

> -if [ -f /etc/redhat_release ]; then > +if [ -f /etc/redhat-release ]; then afaik, mandrake has this file as well: [weaver@test-d weaver]$ cat /etc/redhat-release Mandrake Linux release 9.0 (dolphin) for i586 [weaver@test-d weaver]$ Jer

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Cabextract offered to WINE under LGPL..
by Ender 09 Nov '02

09 Nov '02

There you go, now who wants to look into merging cabextract with WINE? [http://www.kyz.uklinux.net/cabextract.php3] It'll be useful for at least three things: - Remove external dependency in urlmon (dlls/urlmon/umon.c) - Implement advapi32:ExtractFiles and fix dlls/setupapi/queue.c - Implement cabinet.dll - Probably some other misc cabinet functions here and there - CHM viewer (in the future) I don't think it would be too hard to merge the 0.7 changes into any merging work done with 0.6, so I wouldn't think it necessary to hold out until then. The only major bug he mentions is fixed by simply changing scope of a variable, so.... :) - Ender ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 12:37:51 +0000 From: Stuart Caie <kyzer(a)4u.net> To: "J.Brown (Ender/Amigo)" <ender(a)enderboi.com> Subject: Re: cabextract licensing Hello J.Brown On 01-Nov-02, you wrote: > Quick question - would it be possible for you to release/give permission > to use the cabextract code under the LGPL? That would allow it's > integration into WINE, and make things a lot easier for WINE.. Sure, I donate to the WINE project the current cabextract 0.6 code (and next release, 0.7, when it is out) for all uses under the LGPL. Just a few technical things: - as it says in the code, cabextract is not a library. It doesn't bother freeing memory except for the 2MB LZX/QTM windows between folders. You'll have to handle memory freeing yourself :) - further, there is a real bug in 0.6: when an LZX or QTM folder follows a ZIP folder, the LZX(window) and QTM(window) pointer in the methods union will be muddied by ZIP state data and will be non-zero and therefore assumed to be valid window pointers. They're not (they're random ZIP state), so it segfaults. To fix this now, remove the "window" field from LZXstate and QTMstate, and put it in the general decomp_state, then change all references of LZX(window) and QTM(window) to CAB(window). - there are also some minor bugs that you'll see fixed in 0.7 (which is why I gifted you this one as well) If you have any other questions, feel free to ask! Regards -- Stuart Kyzer Caie -- kyzer(a)4u.net http://zap.to/kyz ICQ: 45612337 the golden rule; he who has the gold, makes the rules.

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Some dead links on winehq
by Martin Wilck 08 Nov '02

08 Nov '02

A small contribution to the winehq fixes: A list of dead or non-functional links on the Development/References page. (http://www.winehq.com/development/index.php?refs) Wine Wine API - mostly useless, IMHO (is this really up-to-date? - at least it shouldn't be on top of the page). Vintage wine sources - ftpsearch.ntnu.no unfortunately out of service. Win32 Win32 API intro - dead WinDoc - only the "Local Mirror" works, the "at microsoft.com" links bring you to the main MSDN site. Unix Unix98 - needs registration LinuxThreads - why is this linked here? AFAIK not used by wine anyway. X The motif zone - dead lamentation - dead Fonts Internet Font archive - gone. X11R6 fonts - dead t1lib -dead Curvesoft - have ceased operations, a few tools still available. x86 Assembly Intel Documentation - dead Writings on software development Homesteading the Noosphere - dead Lisp... - I don't know why it's there, but I love it :-) The Open Source-revolution - dead Martin -- Martin Wilck Phone: +49 5251 8 15113 Fujitsu Siemens Computers Fax: +49 5251 8 20409 Heinz-Nixdorf-Ring 1 mailto:Martin.Wilck@Fujitsu-Siemens.com D-33106 Paderborn http://www.fujitsu-siemens.com/primergy

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GetCurrentObject
by steve.lustbader＠philips.com 08 Nov '02

08 Nov '02

My app calls GetCurrentObject with a valid HDC and OBJ_BITMAP. It returns 0, however, which causes my app to crash. What further info can I provide to help debug this? -Steve

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authors.ent ...
by Dustin Navea 08 Nov '02

08 Nov '02

I need everyone to look at authors.ent in their documentation directory and if you are listed in there and your email has changed, please send me a blank email off-list.. If you feel that you should be listed in there, please send me an email off-list with the reason why and i will add you in... -Dustin __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch.yahoo.com/u2

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Re: wine button
by Scott Pickett 08 Nov '02

08 Nov '02

I think the idea of the button is great! I think you need to rework the graphic. (1) It's too big. Software publishers would view it as a small additional message about their product. As such, it should be less than half that size. (2) Put "Linux" in the message. It will make it clearer to the windows-user audience and be considered more valuable to the software publisher. "Linux/Wine Certified" or "Runs on Linux+Wine" or some such thing. (3) I'm not knocked out about the graphic, but I'm not artistic, so I don't know why. 3-D shadows, rounded corners, non-white background??? It just doesn't grab me, as is. I think the basic idea is great, however. Scott Pickett Street Wizard Mapping Software __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch.yahoo.com/u2

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RE: Wine 0.8: VB compatibility !!
by Medland, Bill 08 Nov '02

08 Nov '02

> -----Original Message----- > From: wine-devel-admin(a)winehq.com > [mailto:wine-devel-admin@winehq.com]On > Behalf Of Andreas Mohr > Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 12:59 AM > To: Wine Devel > Subject: Wine 0.8: VB compatibility !! > > > Hi all, > > I keep encountering people mentioning that VB stuff has lotsa problems > on Wine. > While I really can't say that I like VB, a lot of people seem > to use it > for critical tasks in companies on a daily basis, so it > sounds like perfect > VB compatibility would be utterly important. > IMHO improving that should be a goal of 0.8. > > I agree totally. Bill

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Docu updates question..
by Dustin Navea 08 Nov '02

08 Nov '02

Should I email patches to Jeremy, or just update the pages myself and email those to Jeremy or Alexandre? -Dustin __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch.yahoo.com/u2

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notepad and richedit - why?
by Shachar Shemesh 08 Nov '02

08 Nov '02

Hi, I was going over the notepad code, and it is implemented using richedit. My question is - why? There is no functionality there that is not also available through the usual Edit control. The Windows notepad is notoriously implemented via the edit control. Is there a special reason why our notepad is different here? Shachar

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Re: Wine 0.8 TODO v0.2
by Gerald Pfeifer 08 Nov '02

08 Nov '02

(I'm not sure this will get through to the list, as I am not subscribed, so I am Cc:ing you.) You wrote: > 4. Enlist some 'official' distribution maintainers > (at the minimum RedHat, Suse, Mandrake, Debian) Please also include FreeBSD, and feel free to contact me for FreeBSD-related issues, especially concerning this kind of "official" distribution maintainers. Many contributors (including myself) have been providing patches to improve portability or support FreeBSD-specific features which differ from GNU/Linux and the port should be in a decent shape. Thanks, Gerald -- Gerald "Jerry" pfeifer(a)dbai.tuwien.ac.at http://www.dbai.tuwien.ac.at/~pfeifer/

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Wine 0.8: VB compatibility !!
by Andreas Mohr 08 Nov '02

08 Nov '02

Hi all, I keep encountering people mentioning that VB stuff has lotsa problems on Wine. While I really can't say that I like VB, a lot of people seem to use it for critical tasks in companies on a daily basis, so it sounds like perfect VB compatibility would be utterly important. IMHO improving that should be a goal of 0.8.

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Debian Maintainer
by Dimitrie O. Paun 08 Nov '02

08 Nov '02

We're still missing one. Any takers? -- Dimi.

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Huge speedup to wine ReadFile on small packets
by Hannu Kotipalo 08 Nov '02

08 Nov '02

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi! The only program I use at windows on home is wzebra, a windows based reversi game (http://www.nada.kth.se/~gunnar/othello.html). (linux version coming, but it's binary only :-() Unfortunately current wine version needs over 10 minutes time to start the program! In windows, starting time is just a few seconds. I found out that the source of the delay was a database file (opening book file), which wzebra reads in by a few byte packets. Fortunately wzebra itself measures the time needed for the readout. Since wine has a lot of overhead for opening and closing unix filesystem for every packet, the delay is understandable (but not acceptable!). Of course, buffering helps. I made a Quick-and-dirty 1k buffer for just ReadFile - routine and database readout dropped from over 800 seconds down to 12-13 seconds! (On my 200 Mhz Pentium Pro) I think this should be fixed in a more sophisticated way, so I did not yet post my patch. Also, this patch helps only on this particular problem; reading a file by small packets with ReadFile. However, I noticed that wzebra reads even bitmaps on byte by one... Don't know how usual this is, thought. In addition, I do not have too much time for playing with this. If someone is interested in continuing my work, please mail me, I can reply by sending the patch. Hannu -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9ytdIuA3ghgc3fUsRAsrLAJ0T4ZYYmhsGx3XgsrmK/JY9jfqDbwCgqYSw rc2AIWu2A5XahdQw0AnZSmg= =0x+Q -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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wine.texinfo
by Vincent Béron 08 Nov '02

08 Nov '02

Is it normal that I cannot find a rule to build wine.info from wine.texinfo in the Makefiles? The file seems to still be worked on (last change september 20th), but I must build it with makeinfo manually (or add it to the spec file). Vincent

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Searching mailinglists
by Sam 08 Nov '02

08 Nov '02

I was wondering if it would be possible to add a search feature to the mailing list archives, while we're doing the WineHQ redesign ? I think that would be a very useful feature, for both, new and old developers. Or perhaps there is already a search available, hidden somewhere out of sight? :-) sam(a)pcuf.fi

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Re: [PATCHLET] DeleteFile With Empty Paths
by Ryan Cumming 07 Nov '02

07 Nov '02

> Can you also create a testcase for this problem? Hmm, I've never written a Wine testcase before. Does the following look good? -Ryan ChangeLog: Add test for DeleteFileA with empty paths

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Wine 0.9 TODO v0.3
by Dimitrie O. Paun 07 Nov '02

07 Nov '02

Lots of updates on this one: http://www.dssd.ca/Wine-0.9-TODO-0.3.html The actual TODO included below as text, for your commenting convenience. A. WineHQ work Website redesign [IN PROGRESS] worker: Jeremy Newman status: backend is getting finalized updated: Nov 7, 2002 Reorganize the navigational menu [DONE] worker: Francois Gouget & al. status: merged into new site updated: Nov 5, 2002 Create some really sexy screenshots [IN PROGRESS] worker: ? status: just starting updated: Nov 7, 2002 criteria: one app per screenshot, avoid cluttered desktop Rework the FAQ interface [IN PROGRESS] workers: Dimitrie O. Paun, Keith Matthews, Thomas Wickline status: close to first public release updated: Nov 7, 2002 Enlist some 'official' distribution maintainers [DONE] RedHat: Vincent Béron SUSE: Marcus Meissner Mandrake: Kye Lewis Debian: Ove Kaaven FreeBSD: Gerald Pfeifer status: completed updated: Nov 7, 2002 Create nice page with apps that run virtually flawless [IN PROGRESS] workers: Carlos Lozano, Dustin Navea status: 20% updated: Nov 7, 2002 criteria: not MS dlls required, no tricks, etc. B. Documentation work We need to first figure what is out of date. [IN PROGRESS] worker: Dustin Navea status: just started updated: Nov 7, 2002 Move CVS docu from User Guide to Devel Guide [IN PROGRESS] worker: Bill Medland status: just started updated: Nov 7, 2002 C. Wine configuration Merge configuration into the registry [TODO] Write control panel applets for editing it [TODO] Have decent defaults so we can start control panel without prior configuration [TODO] Have wizard like app to autoconfigure wine [TODO] proposal: WineSetupTk by Jeremy White Make Wine's DLLs register themselves to avoid manual merging of the winedefault.reg [TODO] Write wine.inf script to setup a new Wine installation [TODO] Have a wineboot script for RunOnce stuff [IN PROGRESS] workers: Andreas Mohr, Shachar Shemesh status: 50% updated: Nov 7, 2002 D. Stabilize utilities Get rid of the init directive from .spec files [DONE] worker: Alexandre Julliard status: implemented by this updated: Nov 7, 2002 Make sure the .spec file format is fairly stable [IN PROGRESS] worker: Dimitrie O. Paun status: investigating updated: Nov 7, 2002 what: can we get rid of the rsrc directive? Ensure the various utilities' options are stable [IN PROGRESS] status: Alexandre fixed winebuild options updated: Nov 7, 2002 what: audit the other utilites Get rid of the Perl testing framework [TODO] worker: Dimitrie O. Paun status: started looking at it updated: Nov 7, 2002 E. Important fixes Window management rewrite, so we can install apps in managed mode. [TODO] worker: Alexandre Julliard status: not started Finish DLL separation Phase 1 [IN PROGRESS] worker: ? status: ntdll, and kernel not done updated: Nov 7, 2002 criteria: DLLs should use only functions exported through .spec file. Detect printing system at runtime [TODO] worker: Huw Davies status: Yup, I'm going to do this in the near future. updated: Nov 7, 2002 Detect OpenGL system at runtime [TODO] worker: Lionel Ulmer status: Real Soon Now (TM) updated: Nov 7, 2002 -- Dimi.

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Re: debugging a lockup in Planescape Torment
by Eric Pouech 07 Nov '02

07 Nov '02

> RFE: > Actually I am not interested in debug msgs after the debugger started. > Could there be an option that an debugger start turns off debug msgs. set - all > When the debugger starts I often get the msg > wine: hash.c:392: DEBUG_GetSymbolValue: Assertion 'strlen(name) < > sizeof(buffer) - 2' failed. which results in an unhandled exception in the > debugger. Whats up with that? fixed size for internal buffers... however a 512 characters identifier seems a bit big to me (even in C++) would you mind printing out the name of the symbol, just to check I'll send a work around for that A+

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user.reg and winedbg
by steve.lustbader＠philips.com 07 Nov '02

07 Nov '02

They key in user.reg that controls whether winedbg pops up in its own window or in the shell in which wine was started seems to be getting ignored. When I set "UseXTerm"=dword:00000000, and run my app, it crashes and brings up winedbg in a separate window. When I look at user.reg again, UseXTerm has been set back to 1. The reason I need this is because when my app crashes, the backtrace is so long (~40 frames) that I can only see the bottom (mostly useless half). Is there a way to increase the size of the winedbg window, pause bt's output (like piping to more in a shell), or display only part of a back trace? -Steve

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Re: FreeBSD configure fix
by Andreas Mohr 07 Nov '02

07 Nov '02

On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 06:21:14PM +0100, Patrik Stridvall wrote: > Gerald Pfeifer configure change broke FreeBSD 4.7 > This should fix it. ROTFL !! The "man who is constantly annoyed about having to fix stupid Linux breakage on *BSD" manages to break *BSD :-)) -- Andreas Mohr Stauferstr. 6, D-71272 Renningen, Germany Tel. +49 7159 800604 http://mohr.de.tt

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Re: ComputerName
by Dimitrie O. Paun 07 Nov '02

07 Nov '02

On November 6, 2002 10:27 am, Martin Wilck wrote: > - Keep old behavior as default, using new config option to change. Can you also please update the documentation as well (man pages, etc.)? -- Dimi.

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RE: Wine 0.9 TODO v0.2
by Medland, Bill 07 Nov '02

07 Nov '02

> -----Original Message----- > From: wine-devel-admin(a)winehq.com > [mailto:wine-devel-admin@winehq.com]On > Behalf Of Dimitrie O. Paun > Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 11:21 PM > To: Wine Devel > Subject: Wine 0.9 TODO v0.2 > > > Folks, > > This time in HTML & Technicolor, at: > > http://www.dssd.ca/Wine-0.9-TODO.html > > Please take a look, and let me know if you think > anything needs to change. If you are listed there > on a task, a status update would be more than > appreciated. If you feel like working on something, > I would like to know to add you in there. > > NOTE: most tasks don't require coding, so don't be > shy, and step up to the challenge. ;) > > -- > Dimi. > Dimi (et al) I guess I could do B.2; Move CVS Docu from User Guide to Devel guide. Before doing so, though, I just want to check what that means. I presume that this means moving the "Getting Wine Source code from CVS" section. I wonder if that is exactly what we want. Are we trying to avoid scaring beginners and non-programmers? If we basically mean that the user Guide will not talk about getting the source and compiling it on your own machine then we might as well also move "Getting Wine Source Code from the FTP archive" and "Upgrading Wine with a patch" If we basically mean that we suggest that the user be able to build from source but only from the FTP archive versions then do we really need the "Upgrading Wine with a patch" If we support the user being able to build from source but don't want to scare them then all we need to do is drop the talk about changing the code and diffing (and maybe adding a little more hand-holding to the cvs section a la dummies guide). Also if we go towards the "build from source" we are going to have to address little issues like the tendency not to install the compiler these days. My suggestion is that, since we are talking about fairly stable releases, we ought to move all the sections concerned with building from source. Guidance please. Bill

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RE: Wine 0.9 TODO v0.2
by Medland, Bill 07 Nov '02

07 Nov '02

> -----Original Message----- > From: Dimitrie O. Paun [mailto:dpaun@rogers.com] > Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 9:42 AM > To: Medland, Bill; Wine Devel > Subject: Re: Wine 0.9 TODO v0.2 > > > On November 7, 2002 12:37 pm, Medland, Bill wrote: > > My suggestion is that, since we are talking about fairly > stable releases, > > we ought to move all the sections concerned with building > from source. > > I think so. User Guide should all about how you use Wine, not how you > develop it, build it, etc. We should just add a small note to the > User Guide pointing people to the other guide, if interested in > building from source. > > You're on. That was quick!! Catch them while you can, Eh? I'll wait a couple of days to allow any discussion on the list. > > -- > Dimi. > Bill

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