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Re: shlfileoperation
by Uwe Bonnes 26 Oct '02

26 Oct '02

>>>>> "Dietrich" == Dietrich Teickner <Dietrich_Teickner(a)t-online.de> writes: Dietrich> Hi, I am a Odin programmer (wine for os/2). I have in Dietrich> shlfileop 3 FO_ operations full imlemented. It's tested in Dietrich> Odin. Can anyone implement and test this patch in wine ? I Dietrich> have also one test programm, if nessesary. Please send the test program. And please state how to handle your patch with regard to wine-gpl and wine-x11 license. Bye -- Uwe Bonnes bon(a)elektron.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de Institut fuer Kernphysik Schlossgartenstrasse 9 64289 Darmstadt --------- Tel. 06151 162516 -------- Fax. 06151 164321 ----------

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Loading program icon
by Peter Andersson 26 Oct '02

26 Oct '02

Hi, How do you read the icon of a windows application? Please tell me how to do it inside wine/windows-environment, and possibly independent of wine/win (the raw way). Can someone give me a hint? //Peter

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Re: Listview Z0 (roll-up patch)
by David D. Hagood 26 Oct '02

26 Oct '02

Well, a cvs up -C and rebuild, and things are find here at home. I'll have to see what is up with my machine at work Monday...

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Re: Listview Z0 (roll-up patch)
by David D. Hagood 25 Oct '02

25 Oct '02

Dimitrie O. Paun wrote: > > The algorithm has been: start a new series when Alexandre has committed > the previous one. So, for example, because I've started the Z-series > last night, that means that Alexandre already committed the X-series. > So the only outstanding patch not committed to CVS is Z0. I don't see a > need for a roll-up patch ;) > > That helps, but also leaves me with a conundrum - when I do a CVS update on my machine at work, and rebuild wine (make clean, make depend, make, su, wipe wine directories in /usr/local, make install, exit, run Mng4) I get the listview crash on "Along the way". I haven't been updating my machine at home, which had the patches applied, so I thought the patches were not in CVS. I will do a cvs up -C and rebuild here at home, and see what I get.

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Status Report: -DSTRICT
by Michael Stefaniuc 25 Oct '02

25 Oct '02

Hello, status reports seems to be pretty popular this day so here is mine regarding compiling wine with -DSTRICT. Below is the amount of warnings we get when removing -DWINE_NO_STRICT: dll real total ------------------------------ commdlg 21 63 gdi 128 273 ntdll 148 178 ole32 16 38 shell32 120 155 user 450 839 winmm/wavemap 7 40 winmm 104 145 winsock 14 42 x11drv 60 79 ------------------------------ total 1068 1852 "real" is the number of warning for which real work is need to be done, the rest up to "total" are warnings of the type "int format, HANDLE arg". And to fix this beasts just grab http://people.redhat.com/mstefani/wine/fixpointerarg.pl and do: cd wine/dlls/$dll_in_work make clean make 2>&1 | fixpointerarg.pl and you should be done. Happy hacking bye michael P.S.: a request from Eric: please let him finish the 32bit - 16bit separation of winmm. After that is yours. -- Michael Stefaniuc Tel.: +49-711-96437-199 System Administration Fax.: +49-711-96437-111 Red Hat GmbH Email: mstefani(a)redhat.com Hauptstaetterstr. 58 http://www.redhat.de/ D-70178 Stuttgart

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Re: DSTRICT: LZexpand
by Michael Stefaniuc 25 Oct '02

25 Oct '02

It seems to look good and i'm very happy about it: i almost can't see that stuff anymore. bye michael On Sat, Oct 26, 2002 at 12:05:16AM +0100, Matthew Davison wrote: > This is my first patch to wine so if it is wrong please dont chew me up > anyway, here goes. > > ChangeLog: > Made LZexpand compile with DSTRICT defined. > -- Michael Stefaniuc Tel.: +49-711-96437-199 System Administration Fax.: +49-711-96437-111 Red Hat GmbH Email: mstefani(a)redhat.com Hauptstaetterstr. 58 http://www.redhat.de/ D-70178 Stuttgart

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Re: Listview Z0 (roll-up patch)
by David D. Hagood 25 Oct '02

25 Oct '02

For those of us who are a little behind on the patches, would it be possible to get a roll-up patch of all diffs from the CVS MAIN branch? Also, what is the status of CVS vs. the patches - what patches have been applied?

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Re: Known listview bugs (take 2)
by Jeff Smith 25 Oct '02

25 Oct '02

Just a couple of days ago, the problem with native (W95-OSR2.1) regedit was that changing keys in the tree kept piling up new items in the listview. It was quite interesting seeing multiple (Default) values for a key :-). Now (12 hours ago anyways) it is always blank. When I click on where the values should be (highlight them), sometimes they will show up then. It seems something is not being refreshed that should be. Maybe I'll get a chance to dig in later today if nothing has been uncovered by then. -- Jeff S. >From: Greg Turner <gmturner007(a)ameritech.net> > >On Friday 25 October 2002 07:35 am, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote: > > On October 25, 2002 02:36 am, Greg Turner wrote: > > > So, I know this has been discussed before... but I can't recall: is > > > native (W98) regedit expected to work right now? For me, it doesn't. > > > > Well, I don't have that application, so you'll need to help debug > > it if you want it working :). First step is a --debugmsg +listview. > > If you think that's relevant, a screenshot too. > >ok, I'll do this tonight, and maybe even try to drill in a little deeper >if I can figure anything interesting out. FYI, I think this problem >existed before your listvew work started, so its probably not your >doing. > >BTW, thanks for your ongoing work, listviews feel much better lately! > >-- >gmt _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! Try MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp

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interrupts in when in NT version
by Zsolt Rizsanyi 25 Oct '02

25 Oct '02

Hi! I have Laurent Pinchart's safedisc patch applied and working for a while now. (and it works perfectly). But the recent interrupt changes tend to cause cvs conflicts and to break it. This patch is supposed to work only if winver is nt40 so very probably this applies only to NT. What the patch relies on is that the interrupt handling code (which was INSTR_EmulateInstruction before the changes), return EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION if interrupt 0x01 is called (if I understand it correctly). This was done with the next patches: Index: dlls/ntdll/signal_i386.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/wine/wine/dlls/ntdll/signal_i386.c,v retrieving revision 1.46 diff -u -p -r1.46 signal_i386.c --- dlls/ntdll/signal_i386.c 12 Sep 2002 22:07:03 -0000 1.46 +++ dlls/ntdll/signal_i386.c 24 Oct 2002 10:13:36 -0000 @@ -729,6 +729,7 @@ static void do_segv( CONTEXT *context, i { EXCEPTION_RECORD rec; DWORD page_fault_code = EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION; + DWORD priv_instr_code = EXCEPTION_PRIV_INSTRUCTION; #ifdef CR2_sig /* we want the page-fault case to be fast */ @@ -758,8 +759,8 @@ static void do_segv( CONTEXT *context, i case T_SEGNPFLT: /* Segment not present exception */ case T_PROTFLT: /* General protection fault */ case T_UNKNOWN: /* Unknown fault code */ - if (INSTR_EmulateInstruction( context )) return; - rec.ExceptionCode = EXCEPTION_PRIV_INSTRUCTION; + if (INSTR_EmulateInstruction( context, &priv_instr_code )) return; + rec.ExceptionCode = priv_instr_code; break; case T_PAGEFLT: /* Page fault */ #ifdef CR2_sig Index: memory/instr.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/wine/wine/memory/instr.c,v retrieving revision 1.19 diff -u -p -r1.19 instr.c --- memory/instr.c 23 Oct 2002 22:24:10 -0000 1.19 +++ memory/instr.c 24 Oct 2002 10:14:08 -0000 @@ -397,7 +397,7 @@ static void INSTR_outport( WORD port, in * * Emulate a privileged instruction. Returns TRUE if emulation successful. */ -BOOL INSTR_EmulateInstruction( CONTEXT86 *context ) +BOOL INSTR_EmulateInstruction( CONTEXT86 *context, DWORD *exception_code ) { int prefix, segprefix, prefixlen, len, repX, long_op, long_addr; SEGPTR gpHandler; @@ -685,6 +685,29 @@ BOOL INSTR_EmulateInstruction( CONTEXT86 break; /* Unable to emulate it */ case 0xcd: /* int <XX> */ +<<<<<<< instr.c + if (long_op) + { + ERR("int 0x%02x from 32-bit code is not supported.\n", instr[1]); + if (instr[1] == 0x01) + *exception_code = EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION; + break; /* Unable to emulate it */ + } + else + { + FARPROC16 addr = INT_GetPMHandler( instr[1] ); + WORD *stack = get_stack( context ); + /* Push the flags and return address on the stack */ + *(--stack) = LOWORD(context->EFlags); + *(--stack) = context->SegCs; + *(--stack) = LOWORD(context->Eip) + prefixlen + 2; + add_stack(context, -3 * sizeof(WORD)); + /* Jump to the interrupt handler */ + context->SegCs = HIWORD(addr); + context->Eip = LOWORD(addr); + } + return TRUE; +======= if(!Dosvm.EmulateInterruptPM && !DPMI_LoadDosSystem()) ERR("could not initialize interrupt handling\n"); else { @@ -693,6 +716,7 @@ BOOL INSTR_EmulateInstruction( CONTEXT86 return TRUE; } break; /* Unable to emulate it */ +>>>>>>> 1.19 case 0xcf: /* iret */ if (long_op) The second one is pretty ugly since I have not resolved the cvs conflict (I'm waiting for your input :), but the important part is this: + if (long_op) + { + ERR("int 0x%02x from 32-bit code is not supported.\n", instr[1]); + if (instr[1] == 0x01) + *exception_code = EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION; + break; /* Unable to emulate it */ + } Here is the EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION is returned if interrupt 0x01 is called. This was good when interrupts from 32-bit code were not supported. But now we need a special case for this. I think that on NT calling 0x01 is forbidden. But I have not tested this (and will not, because I dont have windows devel tools - I just want to run my Longman Dictionary :) I would like if this could be fixed properly and that would work with the safedisk patch, if thats possible. Thanks Zsolt

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Re: [linux-audio-dev] Fwd: Opinions on running VST or DirectX plugins on Linux in real time
by Kjetil S. Matheussen 25 Oct '02

25 Oct '02

On 23 Oct 2002, Benno Senoner wrote: > I contacted the author of the VQF plugin about opinions of running > windows plugins under Linux. He is not subscribed to LAD so he told me > to forward this mail to the list. > cheers, > Benno > Interesting. But one idea I just got... Could it be possible to overcome all problems mentioned just by simply adding jack-support to the wine-server? Then someone could make a simple windows-program for chaining directx and vst plug-ins. I dont know how the wine-server works though, so please shout out if its not possible. > On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, Benno Senoner wrote: > > > We are currently discussing about the possibility to run VST or > DirectX audio > > plugins on Linux in real time. > > I remember you wrote an xmms plugin that allowed to run the windows > VQF plugin > > under Linux using wine & co. > > <snip> > > It would be cool if you could write on the linux-audio-dev list about > > experiences in that field. > > I am afraid I will have to keep this short as I'm really busy at the > moment. I also am a long way from being an audio expert or wine so I > doubt > my experiences will be of much use to you hence I didn't subscribe to > the > list . Feel free to forward this to the audio-dev list and cc me on it > if > you wish > > First, the solution I used for the VQF plugin was extremly clunky. There > was no way of letting the plugin run inside XMMS without causing > segfaults. They simply did not merge well no matter what I tried. > > I suspect but never proved that it was how WINE has to lay out it's > memory > to be able to mimic how Windows sees things like segments. The layout is > drastically different to how a Linux app normally sees things. By the > time > a VQF plugin could be loaded, the two very differnet approaches to > managing memory simply did not work well together > > In the end, the solution used was this; > > 1. At XMMS start, fork and exec an application that uses libwine to load > the windows DLL. Communicate with the parent through pipes, sockets > or > shared memory > > 2. Start up XMMS as normal > > 3. The plugin just implements stub functions for every routine a plugin > is > meant to implement and communicates the information to the child > > This had a number of issues. First, it was difficult to get information > from the plugin. It opened the sound device directly itself which meant > that visualisation data was not available. > > At one point, this was resolved by hacking wine itself to write the PCM > data to a named pipe rather than playing to a device but needless to > say, > it was too ugly to live and couldn't really be distributed easily. (I > considered it unreasonable to get users to patch and compile WINE just > to > play a piece of music, visualisations weren't that important). > > If I had a nice plugin, what I would try to do is set up two unamed > pipes > at application start to a child application using libwine. One pipe for > writing would send commands and one pipe for reading would take PCM > data. > I don't know how viable this is for you. > > > I'm not a windows / wine expert but commonsense says me it should be > > possibile to run these windows plugins under Linux in real time with > small > > buffer sizes in order to get low response times (low latency). > > I would be inclined to go the other way. With the above solution, I > would > try and buffer as much data as humanly possible to try and avoid the > overhead of calling wine constantly. For example, I would try and get 10 > seconds worth of data from the windows plugin before starting to play > anything. Once I had the PCM data, it would not matter if the plugin > could > not make real time contraints. > > > It should be possible to let wine handle the GUI stuff . (if word and > excel > > runs then it should be able to run plugin GUIs too). > > It can, but remember that if you are trying to use this plugin with a > normal application, you are likely to run into a lot of trouble. At > least > I did, but this was a few years back. Things might be different now > > I imagine you already have checked out how avifile loads it's plugins. > When I last looked at it (a few years back), it was using a stripped > down > version of WINE to just load the plugins and get the function pointers. > It > might be worth checking into. > > -- > Mel Gorman > MSc Student, University of Limerick > http://www.csn.ul.ie/~mel > > > > >

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Re: Resubmitted - Prefereable GetDateFormatW fix
by Dimitrie O. Paun 25 Oct '02

25 Oct '02

On October 25, 2002 12:39 pm, Medland, Bill wrote: > (Sorry Dimi; it has to be an attachment to stop the mailer wrapping it) No, it doesn't, as long as you set up your mail to not wrap. Or, alternatively, just add it as text/plain, so it is displayed inline. But actually inlining it is better, because people can reply to it, and easily quote the portion of interest. -- Dimi.

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How can an app detect it's running under WINE?
by Alberto Massari 25 Oct '02

25 Oct '02

Hi everybody, I am working on making our software (Stylus Studio, http://www.stylusstudio.com) run under WINE, if this is feasible. To achieve this, I have already implemented a bunch of APIs (the application is built against the UNICODE version of the Win32 APIs) and fixed some bugs I hit (I already mailed the first patch to wine-patches(a)winehq.com). However, I would feel better if I could detect I am running under WINE and gracefully disable some functionalities that are not yet fully supported; is there any way to achieve this? Is there a WIN32 API (like, say, GetVersionEx) that can return a string like "Windows 2000 (WINE)" or is WINE trying to be as stealth as possible? Thanks in advance, Alberto ------------------------------- Alberto Massari eXcelon Corp. http://www.StylusStudio.com

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RE: How can an app detect it's running under WINE?
by Patrik Stridvall 25 Oct '02

25 Oct '02

> --- Patrik Stridvall <ps(a)leissner.se> wrote: > > > So that is why there is no OFFICAL way to detect > > Wine, simple because > > if where was an offical way people could quite > > reasonable complain if > > some change to Wine broke their detection. However > > since there are no > > offical way, they can't complain can they? :-) > > Probably it's time to make an "official" way? No and IMHO there is no reason to have an offical way at all. > This problem appears with each application, ported > with Wine and isn't going to go away even when Wine > will correctly implement all Windows api ;-) If Wine implement every Windows API, why do you care whether you are running under Wine at all? Your application works as good as it does under Windows. Period. Of course you might better intergration with X Windows, printing or whatever to make your application work EVEN BETTER under Wine. :-) Then you have two choice: 1. Recompile your application using Winelib and use Unix API's 2. Under Windows, link with and use some "Wine extension" DLL that are just in many cases "return FALSE; SetLastError(ERROR_NOT_IMPLEMENTED)" on Windows but are implemented on Unix (or some Unixes). Sure (2) currently doesn't exist yet. However it wouldn't be very difficult to do it, if there is need. But no these functions are not for detecting Wine they are for tighter intergration with the underlying "OS" like X Windows, printing or whatever. However this is IMHO far beyond 1.0, so don't hold your breath. But sure if you can name some "Wine extension" API we REALLY need we might do it sooner... PS. Theoretically, the "Wine extensions" DLLs might be implementated on some future version Windows as well and it would be quite ironical if Microsoft did in the future. :-)

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Re: How can an app detect it's running under WINE?
by Alberto Massari 25 Oct '02

25 Oct '02

Hi Andreas, At 03.12 25/10/2002 -0500, you wrote: >Message: 13 >Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 10:10:32 +0200 >From: Andreas Mohr <andi(a)rhlx01.fht-esslingen.de> >To: Alberto Massari <alby(a)exln.com> >Cc: wine-devel(a)winehq.com >Subject: Re: How can an app detect it's running under WINE? >Reply-To: andi(a)rhlx01.fht-esslingen.de > >On Fri, Oct 25, 2002 at 09:25:23AM +0200, Alberto Massari wrote: > > Hi everybody, > > I am working on making our software (Stylus Studio, > > http://www.stylusstudio.com) run under WINE, if this is feasible. To > > achieve this, I have already implemented a bunch of APIs (the application > > is built against the UNICODE version of the Win32 APIs) and fixed some > bugs > > I hit (I already mailed the first patch to wine-patches(a)winehq.com). > > > > However, I would feel better if I could detect I am running under WINE and > > gracefully disable some functionalities that are not yet fully supported; > > is there any way to achieve this? Is there a WIN32 API (like, say, > > GetVersionEx) that can return a string like "Windows 2000 (WINE)" or is > > WINE trying to be as stealth as possible? >http://www.winehq.org/FAQ/ would have been answering this in countless >cases already. I'm sorry I asked this here, but the only help I got from the FAQ was: ------ Q: How can I detect Wine? A: You really shouldn't want to do this. If there's a quirk in Wine you need to work around, it's *much* better to fix it in Wine (after all you're a developer, so you should be able to gather enough help and knowledge to fix it for real). If you think you really want to know how to detect it anyway (maybe in order to just have a cool "running on Wine" status text or so), then please mail me. (address-suppressed) ------ So I though I could ask it here.... Alberto ------------------------------- Alberto Massari eXcelon Corp. http://www.StylusStudio.com

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RE: How can an app detect it's running under WINE?
by Patrik Stridvall 25 Oct '02

25 Oct '02

> At 13.22 25/10/2002 +0200, Andreas Mohr wrote: > >On Fri, Oct 25, 2002 at 10:30:15AM +0200, Alberto Massari wrote: > > >[...] > > > >Like someone else said (IIRC), you could check for the existence > >of the Wine configuration registry key branch. That'd be a > 150% reliable > >method of detecting Wine presence. > > > >But again, trying to fix issues would be preferrable. > >(unless there are just too many problems to be fixed) > > Thanks for your answers: we all agree that the best thing to > do is to have > WINE support all the WIN32 API, and mimic all the Windows flavors. > But just like an application calls GetVersionEx to decide how > to behave on > a specific platform, it is perfectly valid for it to try to > detect WINE as > a variant of Windows, and react accordingly. That registry > information is > the right piece of information, as it could also be used to > instruct the > user on the changes needed to make the application work better. Oh sure, you CAN detect Wine if you want, the point is that the Wine project reserves the right to change any behavior at any time for any reason, but most often in order to try to make some application more compatible with Windows. If this breaks your Wine detection, tough. We will not change back because of you. So that is why there is no OFFICAL way to detect Wine, simple because if where was an offical way people could quite reasonable complain if some change to Wine broke their detection. However since there are no offical way, they can't complain can they? :-)

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Whats done? not?
by Christensen Tom 25 Oct '02

25 Oct '02

Obviously wine is still being actively developed, and I know its not close to "done" however, I want to get involved, I know C/C++ and have a pretty good grasp of windows apis, I'm just wondering is there a place (kinda like in the Mono project they have a tree laid out with all of the classes/functions that are in the .NET runtime, and they have them marked done, being worked on, not started...) So I'm wondering if wine has anything similar? or should i just pick a function, and see if its done already by searching through the source? At any rate, wine should have a nice concise place to look and see if wine has certain functions implimented.. Tom _________________________________________________________________ Broadband? Dial-up? Get reliable MSN Internet Access. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp

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Re: How can an app detect it's running under WINE?
by Greg Turner 25 Oct '02

25 Oct '02

On Friday 25 October 2002 03:55 am, Uwe Bonnes wrote: > >>>>> "Greg" == Greg Turner <gmturner007(a)ameritech.net> writes: > Greg> I don't like this solution. Those entries are likely to be > Greg> present in certain shared wine / native windows configurations. > > The "Software\\Wine\\Wine\\Config" tree is read from ~/.wine/config on each > startup and is not written to a .reg file. So if it ret mixed, things are > broken. > > Bye I didn't think of those. you are right, that seems pretty safe. -- gmt "Oh, and of course, the fastest way to dig a tunnel is to dig at both sides." -- The Linux Advanced Routing HOWTO

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Re: How can an app detect it's running under WINE?
by Greg Turner 25 Oct '02

25 Oct '02

On Friday 25 October 2002 02:51 am, Uwe Bonnes wrote: > >>>>> "Alberto" == Alberto Massari <alby(a)exln.com> writes: > > Alberto> Hi everybody, I am working on making our software (Stylus > Alberto> Studio, http://www.stylusstudio.com) run under WINE, if this > is Alberto> feasible. To achieve this, I have already implemented a bunch > Alberto> of APIs (the application is built against the UNICODE version > Alberto> of the Win32 APIs) and fixed some bugs I hit (I already mailed > Alberto> the first patch to wine-patches(a)winehq.com). > > Alberto> However, I would feel better if I could detect I am running > Alberto> under WINE and gracefully disable some functionalities that > are Alberto> not yet fully supported; is there any way to achieve this? Is > Alberto> there a WIN32 API (like, say, GetVersionEx) that can return a > Alberto> string like "Windows 2000 (WINE)" or is WINE trying to be as > Alberto> stealth as possible? > > You can query for example the wine registry entries. > > Bye I don't like this solution. Those entries are likely to be present in certain shared wine / native windows configurations. -- gmt "Oh, and of course, the fastest way to dig a tunnel is to dig at both sides." -- The Linux Advanced Routing HOWTO

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hack to make GrandPrixLegens and N2002 work
by Christoph Frick 25 Oct '02

25 Oct '02

Hi! This is an more or less a straight forward hack to make the game grand prix legends work. It will also effect other games from Papyrus. The game has two problems: 1) It binds more than one time to the same port without doing an SO_REUSEADDR. Acording to UNP it is no big deal to do so - so i just force it. 2) The game sets SO_DONTROUTE on the socket. This works in linux and prevent the user of connecting to games in other networks. Either windows ignores the SO_DONTROUTE or it is not set in native windows or it is ignored. I dont have any opportunity to find out. Another thing is a registry key the game expexcts: [System\\CurrentControlSet\\Services\\Class\\NetTrans\\0000] 1027876728 "IPAddress"="192.168.66.6" It runs with this setting (also N2002); maybe the dontroute problem could also be solved, if the remaining keys to properly define the TCP/IP config for a NIC in windows are set?! So my plea: Could some windows network/socket guru point me in a direction to do further investigations? BTW: i can not imagine this "patch" makes it to the tree - but just to have it said: The patch is under BSD License. CU!

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Re: avoid XF86DGANoDirectVideoMode while detecting no dga
by Lionel Ulmer 25 Oct '02

25 Oct '02

On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 04:21:22PM -0500, Greg Turner wrote: > I did not investigate root causes, so someone may know > a better fix. > LICENSE: X11 > CHANGELOG: > * dlls/x11drv/dga2.c: Greg Turner <gmturner(a)ameritech.net> > - avoid X11 error during DGA detection. Grmbl, I must have missed that case when I submitted my fix last time (I only did it in the actual DGA2 usage, not in the 'probing' code). The actual root cause is (for me), a 'feature' in the X server that, instead of reporting the extension as missing on remote clients, report it as being present but then send error messages when trying to use it. Lionel -- Lionel Ulmer - http://www.bbrox.org/

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Services
by Martin Wilck 25 Oct '02

25 Oct '02

I have had a look at dlls/advapi/services.c and found that it is pretty incomplete. Can anybody tell what the current implementation is used for (are there any known programs starting services?) In particular I'd like to know what people generally think about the usefulness of Services in Wine. The fact that wine cannot change user personalities and is lacking most of the NT security concepts makes services pretty useless. However it may be desirable to translate services into something useful on Unix, especially for winelib (it would be useful for the app I am trying to port). Has there been a discussion yet how to set this up without compromising system security? Martin -- Martin Wilck Phone: +49 5251 8 15113 Fujitsu Siemens Computers Fax: +49 5251 8 20409 Heinz-Nixdorf-Ring 1 mailto:Martin.Wilck@Fujitsu-Siemens.com D-33106 Paderborn http://www.fujitsu-siemens.com/primergy

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eTax status report
by Ben Stanley 24 Oct '02

24 Oct '02

Hi, I have now completed using the eTax program from the Australian Taxation Office (http://etax.ato.gov.au) under wine, and have some concluding remarks. * Yellow Note Popups over buttons: these notes pop up almost immediately you put your mouse over a button, and if you click on them, the button does not respond. This causes great user frustration, as you point the mouse at a button, click the mouse, and nothing happens because the popup note appeared and stole the mouse click. Perhaps this could be solved by moving the popup note position so that it's not directly under the mouse pointer? I don't know if this is an etax problem or a wine problem. Workaround: move mouse over button and click again, or be very quick with your mouse click the first time. * ListView (tree): when hovering over items with long names, the same popup note appears, and also greedily steals mouse clicks, preventing you from selecting the item underneath. The note must pass the mouse click through for proper handling by the list item. Workaround: Wait for popup to disappear and then click on list item. * I had some refresh issues with the print preview section of the program. When it draws a page for the first time, all form fields appear to be filled in correctly, but when scrolling the form fields are often left blank when they should be filled in. This may be verified by going forward and then back a page, to force a complete re-draw of the original page, and verifying that fields which were previously blank are now drawn properly. * I didn't try to submit the tax return under wine, as I did not know about the wine integration of the web browser which would be used to perform the submission. (I failed to download the security codes under Mozilla, so I resorted to a Windows box for downloanding security codes and submission.) * Help problems, partly to do with launching winhelp from within etax, and also partly because WINE help can't yet read the etax help file properly. I used etax in the desktop windowing mode, as I had problems with both the managed and unmanaged modes. I set all dlls to builtin (except for "*"). This is the first year that I have been able to use eTax to do the tax return. I want to thank all of the wine contributors for making it possible! Last year I gave up and used a Windows box for the whole thing. Ben Stanley

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Re: Services
by Dustin Navea 24 Oct '02

24 Oct '02

--- Steve Langasek <vorlon(a)dodds.net> wrote: > On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 11:19:21AM -0700, Dustin > Navea wrote: > > > --- Steve Langasek <vorlon(a)dodds.net> wrote: > > > On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 08:08:49AM -0700, Dustin > > > Navea wrote: > > > > Just as wine should not be run as root, file i/o > in > > > wine should NEVER be > > > done in a security context other than that of > the > > > user running the Windows > > > app. Anything that would cause user data files > to > > > be written out under a > > > different uid is broken. > > > Thats not what I'm saying, what I'm saying is > this: > > Yes, that *is* what you're saying. Having the file > get saved to the Unix > fs with owner and group wine is most definitely a > user data file "[being] > written out under a different uid." That is > absolutely out of the > question. I will never knowingly permit software > that works this way > to be installed on my systems. > Not exactly, because as the fact that wine is the program saving it, and wine is running under user/group wine (in the future), it will save it as user/group wine. > > So he goes and changes the owner/group to > > speeddy/speeddy, oepns the file in kword, adds a > few > > more lines, and saves it. > > Um, and how exactly is this supposed to happen on a > multiuser system? You > *cannot* change the ownership of a file without root > privileges. that is what im saying, he does: sudo chown speeddy.speeddy /path/to/filename At best, > if you have write perms on the directory the file's > in and you have read > access to the file, you can copy the file and delete > the original, giving > you a single copy that's owned by you. But this is > only the least of the > reasons why Windows apps should not be writing to > files as user "wine" to > begin with. I knew that much already ;) But if wine is to run as a "service" (i.e. load at bootup via an initscript) and acutally be functional as well as user-friendly, it will have to run in it's own account, just like apache and pgsql do and like i believe named does... -Dustin __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/

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Why would Installshield want WINSPOOL.DRV
by David.Goodenough＠DGA.co.uk 24 Oct '02

24 Oct '02

I was asked by my son to install a couple of games for him on his Linux laptop. Wine is installed (at the current Debian unstable level) but when I try to run the installer, which says it is InstallShield, it gets to 99% and stops, and the console says that it can not load WINSPOOL.DRV. Firstly I can think of no good reason for InstallShield to want this (can anyone else, as far as I know this game - Star Trek Elite Force - does not have a print facility), and secondly what do you think is my best route fix the problem. There are some Windows machines (98/ME/NT4) in the house, I am using Win 98 mode in Wine, which machine should I copy WINSPOOL.DRV from if it will help? Thanks in advance David

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Third listview status update
by Dimitrie O. Paun 24 Oct '02

24 Oct '02

Folks, With my latest W-series patches, the listview should now be a pleasure to work with: fast, *no* flicker, etc. It should be a lot better than before I started working on it. If this is not the case (there are regressions, there is nasty flicker *anywhere*, it's slow, or in general it's not a pleasure to interact with it, i.e. you don't get a warm and fuzzy feeling) let me know now. Internally, the code is a lot cleaner. I have started on Sep. 9, 2002, at revision 1.138. A month and a half, and almost 150 revisions later, most of the code has changed multiple times. Large number of visible, and mostly invisible bugs have been fixed, a lot of corner cases covered, features implemented, listview has been made scalable, flicker has been eliminated by redrawing the absolute minimum, etc. We are now on solid ground to implement more stuff. This has been an extenuating exercise. I am tired, and on top of it all, real life has knocked on my door. This does not mean I'll stop working on it, but it probably means that I will not be able to put as much time into it. For the above mentioned reasons, I think it's best for everybody if we stabilize the code as much as possible, before we start working on the large number of missing features. For this I need your help -- the few apps that I test with work just fine now. I would like to thank everybody that helped me with testing, patches, or reporting bugs. I couldn't have done the half of it without that support. This sounds like this is a done deal. It's not. There's a lot of stuff that remains to be done, but I needed some closure. :) -- Dimi.

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