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Re: C++ tests (1/2)
by Alexandre Julliard 14 Nov '02

14 Nov '02

Patrik Stridvall <ps(a)leissner.se> writes: > In the case of generated.c it is very useful since > alignment and that sort of thing might pontially be different > with C++. For other normal tests I'm not sure how useful > it is to tests with C++ as well. It can't hurt of course > but then it takes twice as long to run... I don't see what this buys us at all. If the C++ compiler generates different structure layouts from the same headers then it is broken, but that's not really a Wine problem. -- Alexandre Julliard julliard(a)winehq.com

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dsl file for sgml faq
by Vincent Béron 14 Nov '02

14 Nov '02

Finally, it's done. In the attached archive you'll find the following files: wine-faq.sgml -> Main sgml file faq-0.sgml \ faq-1.sgml |-> Content sgml files faq-2.sgml / faq.css -> CSS file for the FAQ index.html -> The output of docbook2html -d faq.dsl wine-faq.sgml authors.ent -> same as in documentation/, wasn't needed actually. faq.dsl -> Definition file for docbook. This is where the work went. I modify a few docbook definitions to match Dimitrie's layout. Not obvious without knowing LISP beforehand :) Of course, if somebody chooses another layout, some of this will need adjustment. Or if we prefer something closer to "vanilla" docbook. Dimitrie, the actual HTML code is rather ugly in it's source presentation, so don't hand-edit it :P Anyway, it's not meant to be hand-edited, that's what sgml and docbook are for. The layout is exactly what you already have, although with some small modifications to the layout the dsl file can be alot simpler. Tony, you can begin the transition if Dimitrie likes it (and when you have the time to). That's all for tonight. Vincent

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Re: ReadFile speedup
by Hannu Kotipalo 14 Nov '02

14 Nov '02

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hannu Kotipalo kirjoitti Sunnuntai 10. Marraskuuta 2002 14:49: > are speeded up a lot. For example, wzebra opening database readout : > > Before : over 700 seconds > After : 12-13 seconds > A new version, replacing the earlier. I tested this with a few applications, looks like for most of applications this has not much effect. However, wzebra proves that the effect can be enourmous on some. (And Simcity tellls that it can be negative on some applications :-( Changelog: - - This patch speeds up applications reading files by small packets - - 4 static 512 byte buffers (can be defined for n * n buffers, see file.c) - - Buffer invalidation mechanism changed. With several buffers this *should* fix the reported (thans to Tony Lambregts) slowdown on SIMCITY2000. I haven't got it, cannot test. Please test and see -debugmsg +file, it can give a hint about needed buffers and their sizes. diff is made by 'diff -urN wine-20021031/ wine-20021031-patched/ > patch.diff' Hannu -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE90XAUuA3ghgc3fUsRAuk7AKDwLK/E4WzkCHMf0j615aktFuiWEgCgt0xq FLujbIUEEASUu9K51siPOwA= =RxKU -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: dsl file for sgml faq
by Tony Lambregts 14 Nov '02

14 Nov '02

Vincent Béron wrote: > Tony Lambregts a écrit: > >> Vincent Béron wrote: >> >>> Tony Lambregts a écrit: >>> >>>> I have been fighting with trying to get your sample built on my >>>> system. The end point for me seems to be that in order to use your >>>> faq.dsl I need docbook DTD 4.2. RedHat 7.2 has Docbook 3.0 through >>>> 4.1 but 4.1 just does not cut it. >>>> >>>> jade:../faq.dsl:50:24:E: reference to undefined variable >>>> "$generate-article-lot-list$" >>>> >>>> The sgml tools site has only 3.0/2 >>>> >>>> So I feel very THICK and ned some enlightenment on what direction >>>> to take either. >>>> >>>> 1) It seems pointless to rely on something (docBook 4.2 DTD) that >>>> is difficult to get, so no one will use it so, no one will maintain >>>> the FAQ. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Silly me, not thinking about others. It runs fine with docbook 3.1 >>> (modify the doctype at top of wine-faq.sgml) if you remove the >>> articleinfo pair (but you can keep the title). >>> >>>> >>>> 2) I am THICK and I it will be quickly apparent what I should do >>>> once I have more informatioin. >>>> >>> >>> You're NOT thick! It's just that I do things here (on my machine), >>> and I don't always check if it would work on other machines. >>> >>> Vincent >>> >> When I made the suggested changes I still get the same error... >> >> [tony@tony documentation]$ db2html -d ../faq.dsl wine-faq.sgml >> output is wine-faq >> Using catalogs: /etc/sgml/sgml-docbook-3.1.cat >> Using stylesheet: ../faq.dsl >> Working on: /usr/local/src/wine/documentation/wine-faq.sgml >> jade:../faq.dsl:50:24:E: reference to undefined variable >> "$generate-article-lot-list$" > > > Ok, it's the definition of the article element which causes problems. > > What is your dsssl-stylesheets version? You can locate db31.dsl and > look in the parents directory name. dsssl-stylesheets-1.64 > > > I needed to copy some definitions (bad thing to do, as your > experiencing shows) to precisely control the HTML layout. > > Try with the enclosed dsl file (warning: endlines are probably MS), > and compare the differences (if it works ;-)). Then tell me which > differences you absolutely need, or want, and I'll try to get them in > a portable way. > > Vincent I had to modify the faq-plain.dsl a little to get output >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ><!DOCTYPE style-sheet PUBLIC "-//James Clark//DTD DSSSL Style Sheet//EN" [ ><!ENTITY walsh-style PUBLIC "-//Norman Walsh//DOCUMENT DocBook HTML Stylesheet// ><!ENTITY cygnus-style SYSTEM "/usr/lib/sgml/stylesheet/dsssl/docbook/cygnus/cygn >]> > > <!DOCTYPE style-sheet PUBLIC "-//James Clark//DTD DSSSL Style Sheet//EN" [ <!ENTITY walsh-style PUBLIC "-//Norman Walsh//DOCUMENT DocBook HTML Stylesheet//EN" CDATA DSSSL> <!ENTITY cygnus-style SYSTEM "/usr/lib/sgml/stylesheet/dsssl/docbook/cygnus/cygnus-both.dsl" CDATA DSSSL> ]> ><style-sheet> ><style-specification id="html" use="docbook"> ><style-specification-body> > >(define %html-pubid% "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN") >(define %html-header-tags% '(("META" ("HTTP-EQUIV" "Content-Type") ("CONTENT" "t > (define %html-header-tags% '(("META" ("HTTP-EQUIV" "Content-Type") ("CONTENT" "text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1")))) >(define %use-id-as-filename% #t) >(define %html-ext% ".html") > >(define %stylesheet% "faq.css") >(define %stylesheet-type% "text/css") > ></style-specification-body> ></style-specification> > ><external-specification id="docbook" document="walsh-style"> > ></style-sheet> > > With those changes I get output (but not the prety stuff ) <grin> -- Tony Lambregts

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Re: Fw: Re: Filesystem change notifications
by Ian Pilcher 14 Nov '02

14 Nov '02

Shachar Shemesh wrote: > It's not that I am for adding everything inline. That's not a good idea. > Also, I think a Windows compatibility layer can be forgiven for having > more dependancies than a personal finance program. This holds especially > true if non-core windows functionality is only available if the external > library is available at runtime (i.e. - no fribidi install - no Hebrew > support in Wine. No CUPS installed - no printing available etc.). I'm > not sure this holds true to something which is a core Windows function. That would be the plan. No FAM header at compile time, no change notification support (i.e. current behavior); can't load FAM library or connect to FAM daemon at runtime, no change notification support. -- ======================================================================== Ian Pilcher pilchman(a)attbi.com ========================================================================

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Re: Fw: Re: Filesystem change notifications
by Havoc Pennington 14 Nov '02

14 Nov '02

On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 07:04:24AM +0000, Keith Matthews wrote: > It sems to have been dropped in RH 7.3 which is a good thing. > No, it's not dropped. > Fam requires portmapper. If not set up properly (i.e. by someone who > understands what they are letting loose) portmapper can be a serious > security problem. The security community regard the introduction of fam > a serious backward step on RH's part. Sounds like someone is misinformed, because we don't have it listening on external ports. That's only required to make it work over NFS or something. Our FAM is a local-only thing unlike on Irix. > You are also assuming that every distro follows RH's lead which is very > definitely not true. Many people are already getting upset about the > number of libraries that are required to get some packages to run. > GNUCash being a prime example of package use gone mad. GNUCash has something like 40 dependencies including a lot of very unstable/unfinished APIs. FAM is 1 dependency and while it sucks, it doesn't change very often (or at all that I know of). Alex Larsson wanted to work on a nicer FAM-type thing based on a per-user daemon or something, but hasn't had time. Certainly there's room to write such a thing, but I don't think it's harmful to use FAM if FAM is present. It's not like a FAM dependency would be pervasive, it would be small and well-isolated and easy to change to some other dependency if you found something better. Havoc

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Re: Filesystem change notifications
by Ender 14 Nov '02

14 Nov '02

It all depends which platforms you want to support in this patch, as far as it goes. FAM has support for a lot of different systems, but there's no need to really add it as a dependency IMHO. Adding support for the platforms we wish to support would be simpler. I think the best reference would be to use F_NOTIFY under Linux. This makes writing FindFirstChangeNotification a maybe 20 minute job. The simplest example I can think of is from Samba: http://cvs.samba.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/~checkout~/samba/source/smbd/notify_ker… It's GPLed, so only use it as an example, don't copy code from it :) Other platforms have other methods (eg, FreeBSD you can use kqueue/kevent).. so yes, it all depends how much compatability you want. On other platforms you can always resort to polling, but this is quite horrible. I think NetBSD has a kqueue/kevent method, but IIRC it's broken. :) - Ender

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Unknown message 0x0313
by Fabian Cenedese 14 Nov '02

14 Nov '02

Hi While trying to find problems with messages I stumbled over a message I didn't know what it is. My app got a message 0x0313 when I right clicked on the app button in the taskbar, that on my old NT4. The only info I found is that the app should show the system menu like in this example: // With ClassWizard OnRButtonDown () addition Void Cxxxx: OnRButtonDown (UINT nFlags, Cpoint point) { // Client coordinate in screen coordinate conversion ClientToScreen (& point); // Indication of system menu PostMessage (0x0313, 0, MAKELPARAM (point.x and point.y)); Cwnd: OnRButtonDown (nFlags and point); } Is this code defined in the new VS.net? Thanks bye Fabi

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Filesystem change notifications
by Ian Pilcher 14 Nov '02

14 Nov '02

Is anyone working on implementing FindFirstChangeNotification and friends? If not, this looks like something that may be both within my capabilities and non-trivial enough to be useful (a rare combination!). My thought is to use SGI FAM (http://oss.sgi.com/projects/fam/), which is shipped with Red Hat and (according to bug #588) Mandrake. I'm not sure about any other distributions, but the FAQ on the web page states that Enlightenment, GNOME, and KDE all use it, so it should be pretty widespread. If no one is working on this, start preparing for an endless series of questions about the wineserver's internal workings. -- ======================================================================== Ian Pilcher pilchman(a)attbi.com ========================================================================

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Wine 0.9 TODO v0.5
by Dimitrie O. Paun 14 Nov '02

14 Nov '02

Folks, A new version (0.5) of the Wine 0.9 TODO is out: http://www.dssd.ca/wine/Wine-0.9-TODO-0.5.html The work-in-progress one is always available at: http://www.dssd.ca/wine/Wine-0.9-TODO.html Please check it out, and help me keep it up-to-date. :) Again, for you convenience, the TODO is included below, in text form: A. WineHQ work 1. Website redesign [IN PROGRESS] * worker: Jeremy Newman * status: backend is getting finalized * updated: Nov 7, 2002 2. Move the doc scripts out of documentation into the tools CVS module [TODO] * worker: Jeremy Newman * status: should remind Jeremy to do it :) * updated: Nov 7, 2002 3. Reorganize the navigational menu [DONE] * worker: Francois Gouget & al. * status: merged into new site * updated: Nov 5, 2002 4. Create some really sexy screenshots [IN PROGRESS] * worker: Brian Vincent * status: please send screenshots to the above mentioned maintainer * updated: Nov 12, 2002 * criteria: listed here 5. Rework the FAQ interface [IN PROGRESS] * workers: Dimitrie O. Paun, Keith Matthews, Thomas Wickline * status: released for public review here * updated: Nov 9, 2002 6. Enlist some 'official' distribution maintainers [DONE] * RedHat: Vincent Béron * SUSE: Marcus Meissner * Mandrake: Kye Lewis * Debian: Ove Kaaven * FreeBSD: Gerald Pfeifer * status: completed * updated: Nov 7, 2002 7. Create nice page with apps that run virtually flawless [IN PROGRESS] * workers: Carlos Lozano, Dustin Navea * status: list submitted for discussion, and partly posted here as a HTML page. * updated: Nov 13, 2002 * criteria: not MS dlls required, no tricks, etc. B. Documentation work 1. Fix incomplete and/or out of date documentation. [IN PROGRESS] * workers: Dustin Navea, Tony Lambregts * status: 7.5% complete (first round of patches committed, help would be appreciated) * updated: Nov 12, 2002 2. Fix documentation build process [IN PROGRESS] * worker: Vincent Beron * status: patch submitted * updated: Nov 10, 2002 3. Move CVS docu from User Guide to Devel Guide [IN PROGRESS] * worker: Bill Medland * status: just started * updated: Nov 7, 2002 4. Merge documentation/wine.texinfo into the Development Guide [TODO] 5. Merge documentation/HOWTO-winelib into the Development Guide [TODO] 6. Do something about documentation/installation-und-konfiguration.german [TODO] 7. Do something about documentation/shell32 [TODO] 8. Do something about documentation/status [TODO] C. Wine configuration 1. Merge configuration into the registry [TODO] 2. Write control panel applets for editing it [IN PROGRESS] * worker: Jaco Greeff * status: 7.5% (screenshots here, and here) * updated: Nov 11, 2002 3. Have decent defaults so we can start control panel without prior configuration [TODO] 4. Have wizard like app to autoconfigure wine [TODO] * proposal: WineSetupTk by Jeremy White 5. Make Wine's DLLs register themselves to avoid manual merging of the winedefault.reg [TODO] 6. Write wine.inf script to setup a new Wine installation [TODO] 7. Have a wineboot script for RunOnce stuff [IN PROGRESS] * workers: Andreas Mohr, Shachar Shemesh * status: 50% * updated: Nov 7, 2002 D. Stabilize utilities 1. Get rid of the init directive from .spec files [DONE] * worker: Alexandre Julliard * status: implemented by this * updated: Nov 7, 2002 2. Make sure the .spec file format is fairly stable [IN PROGRESS] * worker: Alexandre Julliard * status: Yes, I'll do that. * updated: Nov 7, 2002 * what: can we get rid of the rsrc directive? 3. Ensure the various utilities' options are stable [IN PROGRESS] * status: Alexandre fixed winebuild options * updated: Nov 7, 2002 * what: audit the other utilites 4. Get rid of the Perl testing framework [DONE] * worker: Dimitrie O. Paun * status: patch submitted, and committed ([1], and [2]) * updated: Nov 11, 2002 E. Important fixes 1. Window management rewrite, so we can install apps in managed mode. [TODO] * worker: Alexandre Julliard * status: not started 2. Finish DLL separation Phase 1 [IN PROGRESS] * worker: ? * status: deferred * updated: Nov 11, 2002 * criteria: DLLs should use only functions exported through .spec file. 3. Detect printing system at runtime [TODO] * worker: Huw Davies * status: Yup, I'm going to do this in the near future. * updated: Nov 7, 2002 4. Detect OpenGL system at runtime [IN PROGRESS] * worker: Lionel Ulmer * status: Patch submitted for review. * updated: Nov 9, 2002 5. Start builtin WinHelp when invoked from apps [DONE] * worker: Eric Pouech * status: patches submitted (client, server) for review, and accepted. * updated: Nov 11, 2002 6. Add macro support to the builin WinHelp [IN PROGRESS] * worker: Eric Pouech * status: Patch submitted for review. * updated: Nov 14, 2002 7. Add CHM support to builtin WinHelp [IN PROGRESS] * worker: J.Brown (Ender/Amigo) * status: Cabextract, and CHMtools donated to Wine * updated: Nov 11, 2002 8. Good support for VisualBasic apps [TODO] * worker: ? * status: ? * updated: Nov 9, 2002 * tests: submitted by Roderick Colenbrander -- Dimi.

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