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License change vote results
by Alexandre Julliard 20 Feb '02

20 Feb '02

Folks, Here is the summary of the votes I received in answer to the request to switch to a copyleft-style license: Agree Disagree Indifferent All votes: 76 (70%) 15 (14%) 17 (16%) Contributors: 39 (66%) 7 (12%) 13 (22%) Contrib. weighted: 59 (64%) 13 (14%) 20 (22%) The first line counts all the votes I received. The second line counts the votes of all people/companies who contributed some code to the project. The last line counts all contributors again but with each being given 1, 2, or 3 votes depending on the importance of his contributions (this evaluation is obviously a bit subjective, but I think the overall trend is clear). The obvious result of this vote is that my previous conclusion was wrong: there is clearly widespread support in the community for a copyleft-style license. With 2 out of 3 contributors in favor of the switch, and less than 15% opposed to it, it's clear that we are going to proceed with the change. We now have to decide the implementation details, like the exact license used, whether to require copyright assignments, etc. My suggestion is that we create a separate mailing list to discuss that, to avoid drowning wine-devel under yet another license flame war. -- Alexandre Julliard julliard(a)winehq.com

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Re:GetStdHandle Problem
by Ignasi Villagrasa 20 Feb '02

20 Feb '02

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Re:GetStdHandle Problem
by Ignasi Villagrasa 20 Feb '02

20 Feb '02

Thanks for answering at first to Eric Pouech. Referred to several points: >did you try to run your program with wineconsole ? >(wineconsole /usr/client/mcc_gnu/cmpm/cmpmgnu /B100 /Oaaaa-1.ovl) I don't know about this executable. I don't find wineconsole file anywhere in wine installation. >Does your program use global objects, which initialization code could invoke the >GetStdHandle functions ? Perhaps I'm going wrong in any of the steps I'm following. I'll explain what I'm trying to do.When I began to migrate this console based programs I wanted to migrate them entirely to Linux without using Wine. I could think of this because my Win32 console programs are designed in native C and C++ and most of its calls are related to ANSI C, and so the migration remains simplified. Console management is platform specific however. I use Win32 console API, and use structures such as INPUT_RECORD. So I'm using Event.KeyEvent.uChar.AsciiChar and Event.KeyEvent.wVirtualScanCode to get and manage keyboard inputs. So it's difficult for me to migrate these calls to, for instance, a ncurses layer, because I must redefine the complete user interface. So I thought of winelib library in order to integrate this part of the programs without changing source code. What I want is add to my program winelib the same way I'm adding other libraries. I don't want to run the program as a Win32 native one, but as a Linux native one. So the steps I followed are: - I installed wine package, getting it from codeweavers. - I added the include files in my source code in order to compile the programs. - I created spec file as wine documents. - I compiled it as documented. - I added the resulting .c file to my makefile. - I compiled all the modules. - I added then following libraries to my makefile linker step: -lkernel -lntdll -lwine -lwine_unicode. Tell me if that's all right. - I linked and created the executable without problems. So, as far as I know, the only place where I call GetStdHandle is in my console module and for displaying and keyboard interface purposes. conhanout = GetStdHandle(STD_OUTPUT_HANDLE); conhanin = GetStdHandle(STD_INPUT_HANDLE); I don't know if the programs may have any additional implicit call to this function. >does your program use AllocConsole or FreeConsole ? No. My program doesn't call explicitly to AllocConsole or FreeConsole. Thanks in advance. Ignasi Villagrasa.

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Re: Small changes to notepad - 2
by Alexandre Julliard 20 Feb '02

20 Feb '02

Andriy Palamarchuk <apa3a(a)yahoo.com> writes: > Q: Is my changelog automatically added to the > ChangeLog file in the notepad directory? If not, > should I update this file manually or we do not need > to use the local file at all? We don't need to use it, all the changes are listed in the main changelog anyway. In fact it should probably be removed. -- Alexandre Julliard julliard(a)winehq.com

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Re: mt locks, fix _sopen for msvcrt
by Alexandre Julliard 20 Feb '02

20 Feb '02

"Peter Hunnisett" <peter(a)transgaming.com> writes: > * dlls/msvcrt/Makefile.in, dlls/msvcrt/console.c, dlls/msvcrt/exit.c, > dlls/msvcrt/file.c, dlls/msvcrt/heap.c, dlls/msvcrt/locale.c, > dlls/msvcrt/main.c, dlls/msvcrt/msvcrt.h, dlls/msvcrt/msvcrt.spec, > [new]dlls/msvcrt/lock.c, include/Makefile.in, [new]include/msvcrt/mtdll.h > Peter Hunnisett <peter(a)transgaming.com> > Add _lock,_unlock and header file for them. > Convert all msvcrt locks over to use _lock and _unlock > Explictly make msvcrt compile with multithreaded option > Fix flag handling in _sopen. Add W->A call for new _swopen Isn't mtdll.h supposed to be an internal header? If so, it should be in dlls/msvcrt, not in include/msvcrt. -- Alexandre Julliard julliard(a)winehq.com

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Re: Small changes to notepad
by Andriy Palamarchuk 20 Feb '02

20 Feb '02

This patch, submitted on Feb 15 was not applied, but other patch - "Notepad2. Command line processing" was. These two patches are independent from each other. If the patch was not understood as duplication and was not applied for some other reason I'd like to know why. Thanks, Andriy Palamarchuk __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com

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Concerning the boot procedure for renaming/deleting files
by Gerhard W. Gruber 20 Feb '02

20 Feb '02

Something not to do with licencing, I hope that poeple have time for this as well. :) I've submitted a patch that is the preliminary for processing the files that are installed with a setup in order to be deleted/renamed when windows boots. The files are now entered into the registry as I have seen how it is done on NT4.0. I have now some questions regarding this. 1.) When I verified this with a testprogram on NT I noticed that the MoveFileEx code enters the names like this \??\D:\test.exe[0] !\??\D:\Test_renamed.exe[0] [0] Does anybody know what the \??\ stands for and wether the '1' for the renaming entry has some function? I coudn't find anything regarding this and I hardcoded this as to now. 2.) I've looked into the program winebootup from Andreas Morh and I could finish this (at least regarding the boot processing for now). BUt I don't see the advantage of having a seperate program that does some stuff that should be done when a wine process starts up. When I check if there is something to process this takes a trivially small time, so performance can't be the issue. I don't really like the idea of having a seperate program for this because in my opinion it belongs into the wine startup code to do this sort of work. Also I think that this will lead to additional questions because people will install programms and then wonder why it doesn't work after successfull installation, so they will ask whats wrong (and I gues this will happen again and again). Furthermore I bet that most people may forget about this secondary program that is needed to run because setup is not done that often once a system is set up properly so people might tend to forget about it. The other thing could be that this secondary program will substitute the startupe program in which case there is no need for a second program in the first place. Any opinions on how to best integrate the boot processing?

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Re: License change vote results
by Roger Fujii 20 Feb '02

20 Feb '02

> CodeWeavers as a single entity did receive one vote.) If we had stuffed > the ballot box as Brett suggested, the votes would have > been more lopsided, believe me. So, you're saying that it WAS possible that it could have been stuffed. Remember that the criteria was not given out when the results were posted (which is why I asked in the first place), so there was no way of knowing what the numbers meant. As it is, I think the criteria is flawed in the sense that it discounts major contributers (codeweavers and transgaming) and enhances the votes of minor ones - the ones who are least effected by a license switch (and, IMHO, the ones that understand the issues/mechanisms of licenses the least). As the argument for X11/BSD is a philosophical/commercial one, it's not unfair to say that if you discount commerical entities, you will have the effect of discounting the X11/BSD count. > I think Dimi and others have been remarkably patient, all > things considered. Being on the other side of the issue, I can say that Dimi is not a saint on the matter either - at least Brett sometimes will substantiate what he says. -r

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Re: Notepad2. Command line processing
by lawson_whitney＠juno.com 20 Feb '02

20 Feb '02

On Fri, 15 Feb 2002, Andriy Palamarchuk wrote: > I *think* this patch does not depend on my previous > patch. > > Changelog: > - implemented parsing of file name, passed in command > line, loading new file on startup. This fixes bug 407 > Did you notice in testing this patch that notepad can not save a file? Never mind bug 407, that is the Real Bug that renders notepad unusable. :-). I guess this is not an urgent bug, I can use joe, jed, vi (elvis, vim) or emacs if I need to change a file. Lawson Illigitimati non carborundum.

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Re: License change vote results
by Roger Fujii 20 Feb '02

20 Feb '02

Alexandre Julliard <julliard(a)winehq.com> wrote: > The obvious result of this vote is that my previous conclusion was > wrong: there is clearly widespread support in the community for a > copyleft-style license. With 2 out of 3 contributors in favor of the > switch, and less than 15% opposed to it, it's clear that we are going > to proceed with the change. As a curiosity, what % of the voters are affiliated with codeweavers? I realize that they are a significant contributer, but as you are using the word "community", it's fair to ask a) how big that number is in total b) if there are large components in that number, they should be at least quantified. -r

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