Hi,
On Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 12:21:30PM -0400, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
On Sat, 12 Apr 2003, Andreas Mohr wrote:
P.S.: Alexandre, I'd REALLY like you to finally put a patch status tracking system in place. The number of people submitting patches for the second, third, bazillionth time is astonishing (I speak from my very own experience, too!). I really don't know how many very valuable Wine patches got lost due to not getting applied without any status reply whatsoever... (particularly the ones from "foreigners") Someone recently said (in WWN) that patch management was perfect or something to that extent. I better don't comment on that statement, you know my hot temper ;) OK, it's definitely not awful, but I guess it could be better.
First off, I don't think the current system is bad. Second, I was the one this in the WWN (so sue me :P). Any system that we would put in place would have to work with email just like the current one. Other suck big time, see the SF one. Once you notice that, you realize that the problem is not the system, but rather that Alexandre needs to reply to patches he rejects, wether through email/web based form/what have you.
Ah, it was you!! ;-)
I can imagine that a real patch tracking system might be problematic in some work overhead aspects, but a lot of people would probably feel more safe.
Don't get me wrong -- I've been multiple times at the rejecting end of this, and it's frustrating. But in retrospective, it's all for a better Wine, and I'd be hard pressed to produce a patch which got rejected by Alexandre, and which I still think should be applied.
Also, your assesment that 'very many valuable Wine patches got lost' is a gross exageration. In fact, please produce 3 such patches that got lost in the last year (heck, in the last 3 years for that matter). I think you'll have a hard time finding a single such patch in the last X years (choose X as you may) that match your description.
First, let's make sure people know that there's a difference between my "I really don't know how many very valuable Wine patches got lost" and what your mail made me say ;-)
Well, I just took Feb. 11 as some random date. Since that time, I've had 4 out of 9 of my patches rejected. Since we're speaking of rejecting: I'm sure you know the difference between iptable's REJECT and DROP target...
I'm not saying that all of my patches are necessarily "valuable", but this statistic accounts to a rejection rate of about 44%, which is slightly unacceptable (to put it a bit mildly ;). Other people seem to also have had some trouble.
BTW, I'm back to wine-devel now, in case you didn't notice ;)
(I went into "overload" mode few months ago and filtered all wine-devel mails away, due to a pretty busy semester and way too many OSS-related emails per day)
I'm currently not very involved in Wine development, since I'm currently busy writing a driver at http://acx100.sf.net </shameless ad>
Greetings,
Andreas Mohr