Ok here's the deal. I wanted to start helping but i've been reading the auncments and stuff but i did see this topic come up. So i thought i would just through it out and see what the wine community had to say. I have build a few (simple)delphi programs test wine out to start working on it(wine that is). fixme:commctrl:FlatSB_SetScrollProp stub ok my question is this since this API is no longer in windows ( Comctl32.dll version 6 and higher do not support flat scroll bars) show i go ahead and write in the code or just go find something else more productive? If this is a stupid question just let me know like( hey it's in the doc's on wine and heres the web site.... ) that would be great. Thanks, -NH -Better living through Wine-