--- Chris chris.kcat@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday 29 June 2006 21:13, Vitaliy Margolen wrote:
Chris if you think that autostart is such a great
idea - you are very
welcome to start sending patches in. And if they
are reasonable enough they
might get in. But if you want to rant about that
Linux doesn't have some
absolutely required "feature" that windows has -
this not the right place.
This sounds like you missed my point. My argument isn't that autorun is cool and Linux should have it (when in fact KDE *does* have it, to some degree), my argument is that Windows has it and it's not inherently detramental (since the user would be instructed to manually do what autorun does automatically anyway, and hence have the same effects), so Wine, if it is trying to match Windows feature-for-feature and bug-for-bug, should have it too. IMO, of course.
Exactly. Windows is such a ubiquitous OS that it sets the standards for all others. Users see Windows autoruning stuff, so when Linux doesn't, "Windows is better".
If I knew how dbus and hal worked, I would probbly try to make the necesarry patches. But as I'm not familiar with Win32 or Wine's internals, I'm not really qualified to work on it, at this time. I'm just a user voicing my opinion.
Chances are it's probably going to work better (and raise fewer objections from developers) if you start wine from the Gnome or KDE autorun, rather than try make wine autorun stuff internally. (Autoruning stuff internally in wine is problematic: both wine and Gnome/KDE could be trying to autorun something at the same time!)
I've used hal and dbus before: they're not as bad as they look. Look at wine's explorer, it uses them to both monitor hardware for changes and query hardware properties.
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