Uwe Bonnes wrote:
"Dimitrie" == Dimitrie O Paun dpaun@rogers.com writes:
Dimitrie> On October 30, 2002 01:57 am, Ender wrote:
- Many apps do not work without Desktop enabled. This is far worse
than it sounds, because most newbies try managed non-desktop first. People think WINE should be able to do seemless intergration. Then when an application hangs, they think it's incompatible and give up. However in many cases the Application will work fine in Desktop mode. BAD, these apps should either be made to work... or non-desktop mode should be removed!
Dimitrie> IMO desktop mode exists only because our integration is not Dimitrie> very good. It should die sooner, rather than later, it's just Dimitrie> a big hack. So we should rather focus on getting apps to work Dimitrie> in non-desktop more, rather then resurrecting the silly Dimitrie> desktop option.
Well,
my opinion on desktop mode is another one. It's not silly. Two examples:
- any program in non-desktop mode switching to full screen (hey, a lot of
programs like installer do that) and crashing later without a proper setup of the debugger. No most users are left in a situation they can't easily solve, as they don't know that they still can switch consoles and kill wine...
- any application poping up endless series of new processes, each process
grabbing keyboard focus. In a good desktop mode I would expect the real focus not to switch from the outside to the desktop. As now each process spawns it's own new desktop, focus is switched anyways.
Yes desktop is broken but it is the best way that I have to debug programs. Without desktop a lot of programs want to take over the whole screen and although there may be other ways of debuging these programs this is the best way that I know of. It need to be fixed not gotten rid of.
My 2 bits
Tony Lambregts.