On Thursday 06 December 2007 00:44:03 Zachary Goldberg wrote:
Here are the updated results for when we only look at updates from App Maintainers. It also just so happens that that age of empires case you mentioned is in fact by a maintainer. Please respond and leave your opinion as to which is more worthwhile in the WWN. Perhaps i'll put both in different sections.
The maintainer ratings are a field in the appVersions table, but they are not as frequently updated as test results.
An option might be to take the highest rating from each Wine version from the test results and compare them. That would avoid many errors, but would still not help in cases where apps are over-rated, such as with Age of Empires II.
Alexander
(replaced dates with wine versions) Age of Empires II The Age of Kings: 2.x went from Silver (0.9.49) to Gold (0.9.50) TTPlayer 5.0.1 went from Silver (0.9.48) to Gold (0.9.50) Sid Meier's Civilization IV Civilization IV Beyond The Sword (3.13) went from Bronze (0.9.48) to Silver (0.9.50) Original War 1.08 went from Garbage (0.9.49) to Bronze (0.9.49) Call of Duty United Offensive: 1.5 went from Gold (0.9.34) to Platinum (0.9.48) Gothic 1.0x went from Bronze (0.9.48) to Garbage (0.9.50) Ys origin 1.1.0.0 - Adol Version went from Bronze (0.9.40) to Silver (0.9.49) Serif PhotoPlus PhotoPlus 11 went from Garbage (0.9.49) to Gold (0.9.50)
On Dec 5, 2007 6:18 PM, Alexander Nicolaysen Sørnes
alex@thehandofagony.com wrote:
The problem of using test results as background for this is that they are very dependent on the experience of each user. For instance some might be unable to run a game because they have execshield or other stuff that mess up Wine, or simply because they are not following the how-to instructions.
Take the Age of Empires II test report, for instance. The user has rated it Gold even though the text on the main menu is displayed black instead of white (on a dark background), and the game is a bit slow even on a modern computer.
The alternative is to use the maintainer ratings, which are generally more correct but updated far less frequently.
Alexander N. Sørnes
On Thursday 06 December 2007 00:02:36 Zachary Goldberg wrote:
I've finished coding a script which runs the necessary query to generate data (I download a database backup and run the queries on my local machine.). As a sampling (if anybody feels like tripple checking that the data is correct) of "Upgrades" (and some downgrades) from 11-27-2007 to 12-04-2007:
Chromadrome 2 - Demo 1.0 (18165) went from Garbage (2007-11-25 01:25:25) to Platinum (2007-12-02 11:50:43) Age of Empires II The Age of Kings: 2.x (18083) went from Silver (2007-11-15 15:58:30) to Gold (2007-11-30 16:30:18) Dreamweaver MX (18123) went from Silver (2007-07-22 03:17:03) to Garbage (2007-12-01 17:41:49) Call of Duty United Offensive: 1.5 (18163) went from Gold (2007-04-06 07:46:23) to Platinum (2007-12-02 11:12:50) Crysis Single player demo (18094) went from Garbage (2007-11-06 12:49:00) to Bronze (2007-12-01 03:25:13) Eschalon Book I Demo Demo (18029) went from Garbage (2007-11-22 02:37:49) to Platinum (2007-11-29 03:11:20) Gothic 1.0x (18154) went from Bronze (2007-11-09 11:48:03) to Garbage (2007-12-02 09:21:57) Proteus 7.2 (18050) went from Garbage (2007-11-18 07:08:51) to Silver (2007-11-29 22:20:27) Ys origin 1.1.0.0 - Adol Version (18060) went from Bronze (2007-07-13 00:20:48) to Silver (2007-11-30 01:38:14) Mp3tag v2.39 (17994) went from Platinum (2007-10-20 11:01:13) to Gold (2007-11-27 15:44:51) Crayon Release 1 (17988) went from Gold (2007-11-17 13:34:11) to Platinum (2007-11-27 11:30:05) Silencer 1.10.1 (18087) went from Silver (2007-11-16 15:04:45) to Platinum (2007-11-30 17:22:00) .NET Framework 2.0 (18042) went from Garbage (2007-11-29 10:07:26) to Platinum (2007-11-30 11:35:57) Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six 3: Raven Shield 1.60 (18057) went from Garbage (2007-10-17 11:44:55) to Bronze (2007-11-29 21:43:19) Safari 3.x Public Beta (18196) went from Garbage (2007-11-21 03:21:32) to Bronze (2007-12-03 10:03:37) TTPlayer 5.0.1 (18191) went from Silver (2007-11-07 05:24:39) to Gold (2007-12-03 08:43:31) Sid Meier's Civilization IV Civilization IV Beyond The Sword (3.13) (18108) went from Bronze (2007-11-07 06:34:47) to Silver (2007-12-01 10:08:49) Original War 1.08 (18041) went from Garbage (2007-11-18 19:59:13) to Bronze (2007-11-29 09:31:33) Half-Life 2 Half-Life: Source (17993) went from Garbage (2007-11-05 14:08:10) to Platinum (2007-11-27 13:49:48) Serif PhotoPlus PhotoPlus 11 (18201) went from Garbage (2007-11-17 17:02:33) to Gold (2007-12-03 12:40:39) MapSource 6.11.5 (18021) went from Silver (2007-10-17 05:19:10) to Gold (2007-11-28 18:11:37) Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare Demo (18143) went from Garbage (2007-11-16 11:59:30) to Silver (2007-12-02 06:40:04) SimCity 4 1.1 638 Rush Hour (18148) went from Gold (2007-11-25 14:58:28) to Bronze (2007-12-02 07:40:50)
On Dec 5, 2007 5:50 PM, Ben Hodgetts (Enverex) ben@atomnet.co.uk
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Possibly, but on the other hand it could just as easily become "Garbage" in the next release of Wine ;)
(sorry, I already sent this once at the start of the day but emailed it directly to the previous person rather than back to the list)
Ben H.
Tomas Zijdemans wrote:
This is great :)
Would it be a good idea to include major news from the appDB? Ex: "Photoshop cs2 has now reached Gold status"
I think this would be very inspiring to users.
Tomas
Triton wrote:
On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 18:23:10 -0500
"Zachary Goldberg" zgs@seas.upenn.edu wrote: > Kai, > > It was my pleasure :). Keep the interesting wine discussion/news > coming and I'll keep writing WWNs. I'll also make note to > highlight in particular GSoC developments as they happen. > > --Zach
Hi everyone, I've been following the mailing lists for some time now, this is my first post. OK, presentation done...
I also had to thank you bring to life the WWN, it's a great resource for those who don't actively follow the development discussions.
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