On 6/13/06, Andreas Bierfert andreas.bierfert@lowlatency.de wrote:
Hm maybe it is... but then I am no wine crack... splitting stuff up is something you do in packaging and what really is encouraged by distributions. Splitting stuff makes users happy and I can see why... ;)
First off, thank you very much for building the FC packages. It was something we were sorely lacking for months and it's a thankless job. So, thanks.
I'd disagree about the 'splitting stuff makes users happy'. As a long time RH user and former sys admin, I hate it. It's one of the reasons I used to dislike Debian, although apt is very good at hiding dependencies. The last thing I want to do when I go to download a piece of software is to figure out which of the 50 million packages I need. In the end I usually download them all and try to install them. It's frustrating.
As others mentioned, the tools package really needs to be included. I understand why you split the other stuff out, so maybe we need to do something like this:
1. Put wine and wine-tools together. Call it 'wine' 2. Not include wine-nas or wine-jack. Aren't they both currently broken? For that matter, I think I heard wine-arts is as well. 3. Combine wine-debuginfo with wine-devel and call it wine-devel. They're both necessary for development, right?
The rest of the packages won't be necessary for 99% of users. Can we just tell them that in the description of the RPM? For example, for wine-cms:
"This package contains special color management for use with Wine by integrating with LittleCMS. Most users will never need to even think of downloading this package. If you're doing high-end graphics work using a commercial Windows package, you might want to consider using it."
Maybe you already do, I didn't download them and look. So, perhaps the package names should even reflect that. Instead of "wine-ldap", call it "wine-extras-ldap". That'd probably be enough for me to figure out what I needed.
By the way, the whole Gecko integration Jacek is doing seems like something packagers should tackle with Wine. It'd be nice if someone could come up with a contained Windows Gecko package that could be included with the basic Wine package.
-Brian