For the *weekly* application list, who is going to compile it? Wine is not Microsoft, therefore they do not have access to something along the lines of Microsoft's Compatibility Lab (and I think not even Microsoft itself could release this weekly list).
Eventually we could talk to the application maintainers (as my self) to provide a weekly state (via mail ev.) of their maintaned app. Regarding to the application rating in the appdb. Just list all the apps with a gold state. It also whold give a good overview for which apps wine is currently ready and it whould also be a good monitor of regression issues.
Roland
----- Ursprüngliche Mail ---- Von: Stephen Eilert spedrosa@gmail.com An: Roland Kaeser roli8200@yahoo.de CC: wine-devel@winehq.com Gesendet: Samstag, den 16. September 2006, 20:11:24 Uhr Betreff: Re: AW: Already Error while installing MS Office 2003
I like the deadline idea, but I do think they've got this already, just not in terms of working applications, but subsystems.
For the *weekly* application list, who is going to compile it? Wine is not Microsoft, therefore they do not have access to something along the lines of Microsoft's Compatibility Lab (and I think not even Microsoft itself could release this weekly list).
Furthermore, applications have to be legally purchased to be tested, as far as I know. I'm not a [wine]developer, but I think you have absolutely no idea of the amount of effort you are talking about.
There is Wine Application Database. I've contributed one entry myself. Not much, I know, but at least it is a start.
Stephen
On 9/16/06, Roland Kaeser roli8200@yahoo.de wrote:
You want stable software, don't you?
Yes but not for the price of developing 10 years for a software.
And break other Applications.
Not urgently
Hey guys can't anybody see the reason? The wine project (or the finish of itself) could bring linux the breakthrough. I know a lot of people who asks as first question: Is this or the other app working on linux? Then I will think about a migration.
Yes, faster development is paid by a less of stability. But is wine currently stable? By many tests with windows apps could I recognize that it is not ever!
We should make a weekly public list of currently working applications (out of the box). I strongly think this is the measurement of the development progress of wine. This is is also the only thing users are interested in! So if the developers has a huge effort to develop things in wine but the count of working apps is not increasing over the time so its a strong indicator that something goes wrong. Think about commercial software dev projects they have milestones and deadlines and they have to fulfil it. Why not making hard milestones and a hard deadline which the project itself can measure against it . Lets say the deadline of a version 1.0 is end of next year (2008-01-01). So if everybody has this deadline in brain, it meight make the whole thing a bit more efficient. Its easier to make hard priority decisions.
Roland
----- Ursprüngliche Mail ---- Von: Detlef Riekenberg wine.dev@web.de
An: Roland Kaeser roli8200@yahoo.de CC: Jim White jim@pagesmiths.com; wine-devel@winehq.com Gesendet: Samstag, den 16. September 2006, 19:16:34 Uhr Betreff: Re: AW: Already Error while installing MS Office 2003
On Sa, 2006-09-16 at 06:34 +0000, Roland Kaeser wrote:
Why don't just accept the code?
You want stable software, don't you?
There is enough time later to make it more "beautiful" or correct it to a better quality.
Who will do it later? Nobody!
But for the moment, some of the code directly allows important apps to work.
And break other Applications.
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