On Mon, 2006-03-27 at 21:32 -0500, Segin wrote:
There is one reason, inarguable (if you reply to this you have a IQ of 0) as to why WineTools is useless: Most of the WineTools 'magic' is in it's ~/.wine/config file, which Wine no longer uses/acknoleges, thefore, WineTools is utterly useless and has no point in existing AT ALL, PERIOD.
Thought it might be interesting to refer back to the email that kicked all of this off and try to look at it in detail.
There is one reason, inarguable
Anything is arguable, if one has arguments that can be backed up with evidence.
(if you reply to this you have a IQ of 0)
Everyone has an IQ of more than 0. If they didn't, it is unlikely they would be able to read and so would not be in a position to respond. I also believe that anyone who reads this list has demonstrated a remarkable degree of intelligence in trying to move as far away from Windows as possible. The inference of this statement seems to be 'I am right because I am. I deny you the right to disagree - if you do I have already marked you out as an imbecile and you are not worthy of any consideration' - sounds rather fascist to me.
as to why WineTools is useless.
I have used Winetools when necessary, when there was no other easily available option. IE is required for me to use online banking. I have complained to my bank, and asked them to support FireFox and they have declined. Winetools helped me achieve what I needed. For my specific needs, winetools was useful.
Most of the WineTools 'magic'
Implication by use of quotation marks - winetools claims to be magic. It does not, as far as I know.
is in it's ~/.wine/config file, which Wine no longer uses/acknoleges,
Ignoring the poor spelling and concentrating on the details, I have used versions of winetools that supported the config file, and more recently, versions that support the newer registry configuration. Given my understanding of current wine configuration I think the statement may be misleading. If I am wrong, I am happy to be corrected, preferably in a private email.
WineTools is utterly useless and has no point in existing AT ALL, PERIOD.
I have already described at least one reason for it to exist. Shouting isn't necessary, but if it makes segin feel better, that's entirely up to him.
The point of this email is not to argue as to whether winetools is good for Wine or not - I can see both sides of the argument. Neither do I believe that any form of banning is necessary. I'm opposed to censorship generally, and given that no individual attack was made such sanctions could be counterproductive, given that segin has offered to submit code to wine in the future.
All I can suggest is that when individuals have an opinion they believe strongly in, perhaps it might be a good idea to read though any open message they send before hitting 'Send' to see if it is readable and stands up to rational criticism.
I have the greatest of respect for the entire wine community (no exceptions) and know that with rational debate and argument wine will be a huge (maybe the biggest) factor in ending the Windows monopoly.