Re: Wine Weekly News

[Chris Morgan]

i'd argue that this means we need to be smarter about how we process
the test results. We need both a confidence and a rating and some way
to reflect this in the results.

Your other point about configuration, if users have problems with
configuration then while it may be their fault its not really their
fault if we let them misconfigure wine. I'm of course assuming that
they aren't being malicious of course.

Chris

On Dec 5, 2007 6:18 PM, Alexander Nicolaysen Sørnes
 wrote:
> The problem of using test results as background for this is that they are very
> dependent on the experience of each user. For instance some might be unable
> to run a game because they have execshield or other stuff that mess up Wine,
> or simply because they are not following the how-to instructions.
>
> Take the Age of Empires II test report, for instance.  The user has rated it
> Gold even though the text on the main menu is displayed black instead of
> white (on a dark background), and the game is a bit slow even on a modern
> computer.
>
> The alternative is to use the maintainer ratings, which are generally more
> correct but updated far less frequently.
>
> Alexander N. Sørnes
>
> On Thursday 06 December 2007 00:02:36 Zachary Goldberg wrote:
> > I've finished coding a script which runs the necessary query to
> > generate data (I download a database backup and run the queries on my
> > local machine.).  As a sampling (if anybody feels like tripple
> > checking that the data is correct) of "Upgrades" (and some downgrades)
> > from 11-27-2007 to 12-04-2007:
> >
> > Chromadrome 2 - Demo 1.0 (18165)  went from Garbage (2007-11-25
> > 01:25:25) to Platinum (2007-12-02 11:50:43)
> > Age of Empires II The Age of Kings: 2.x (18083)  went from Silver
> > (2007-11-15 15:58:30) to Gold (2007-11-30 16:30:18)
> > Dreamweaver MX (18123)  went from Silver (2007-07-22 03:17:03) to
> > Garbage (2007-12-01 17:41:49)
> > Call of Duty United Offensive: 1.5 (18163)  went from Gold (2007-04-06
> > 07:46:23) to Platinum (2007-12-02 11:12:50)
> > Crysis Single player demo (18094)  went from Garbage (2007-11-06
> > 12:49:00) to Bronze (2007-12-01 03:25:13)
> > Eschalon Book I Demo Demo (18029)  went from Garbage (2007-11-22
> > 02:37:49) to Platinum (2007-11-29 03:11:20)
> > Gothic 1.0x (18154)  went from Bronze (2007-11-09 11:48:03) to Garbage
> > (2007-12-02 09:21:57)
> > Proteus 7.2 (18050)  went from Garbage (2007-11-18 07:08:51) to Silver
> > (2007-11-29 22:20:27)
> > Ys origin 1.1.0.0 - Adol Version (18060)  went from Bronze (2007-07-13
> > 00:20:48) to Silver (2007-11-30 01:38:14)
> > Mp3tag v2.39 (17994)  went from Platinum (2007-10-20 11:01:13) to Gold
> > (2007-11-27 15:44:51)
> > Crayon Release 1 (17988)  went from Gold (2007-11-17 13:34:11) to
> > Platinum (2007-11-27 11:30:05)
> > Silencer 1.10.1 (18087)  went from Silver (2007-11-16 15:04:45) to
> > Platinum (2007-11-30 17:22:00)
> > .NET Framework 2.0 (18042)  went from Garbage (2007-11-29 10:07:26) to
> > Platinum (2007-11-30 11:35:57)
> > Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six 3: Raven Shield 1.60 (18057)  went from
> > Garbage (2007-10-17 11:44:55) to Bronze (2007-11-29 21:43:19)
> > Safari 3.x Public Beta (18196)  went from Garbage (2007-11-21
> > 03:21:32) to Bronze (2007-12-03 10:03:37)
> > TTPlayer 5.0.1 (18191)  went from Silver (2007-11-07 05:24:39) to Gold
> > (2007-12-03 08:43:31)
> > Sid Meier's Civilization IV Civilization IV Beyond The Sword (3.13)
> > (18108)  went from Bronze (2007-11-07 06:34:47) to Silver (2007-12-01
> > 10:08:49)
> > Original War 1.08 (18041)  went from Garbage (2007-11-18 19:59:13) to
> > Bronze (2007-11-29 09:31:33)
> > Half-Life 2 Half-Life: Source (17993)  went from Garbage (2007-11-05
> > 14:08:10) to Platinum (2007-11-27 13:49:48)
> > Serif PhotoPlus PhotoPlus 11 (18201)  went from Garbage (2007-11-17
> > 17:02:33) to Gold (2007-12-03 12:40:39)
> > MapSource 6.11.5 (18021)  went from Silver (2007-10-17 05:19:10) to
> > Gold (2007-11-28 18:11:37)
> > Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare Demo (18143)  went from Garbage
> > (2007-11-16 11:59:30) to Silver (2007-12-02 06:40:04)
> > SimCity 4 1.1 638 Rush Hour (18148)  went from Gold (2007-11-25
> > 14:58:28) to Bronze (2007-12-02 07:40:50)
> >
> > On Dec 5, 2007 5:50 PM, Ben Hodgetts (Enverex)  wrote:
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> > > Possibly, but on the other hand it could just as easily become "Garbage"
> > > in the next release of Wine ;)
> > >
> > > (sorry, I already sent this once at the start of the day but emailed it
> > > directly to the previous person rather than back to the list)
> > >
> > > Ben H.
> > >
> > > Tomas Zijdemans wrote:
> > > > This is great :)
> > > >
> > > > Would it be a good idea to include major news from the appDB?
> > > > Ex: "Photoshop cs2 has now reached Gold status"
> > > >
> > > > I think this would be very inspiring to users.
> > > >
> > > > Tomas
> > > >
> > > > Triton wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 18:23:10 -0500
> > > > >
> > > > > "Zachary Goldberg"  wrote:
> > > > > > Kai,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It was my pleasure :).  Keep the interesting wine discussion/news
> > > > > > coming and I'll keep writing WWNs.  I'll also make note to highlight
> > > > > > in particular GSoC developments as they happen.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --Zach
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi everyone, I've been following the mailing lists for some time now,
> > > > > this is my first post. OK, presentation done...
> > > > >
> > > > > I also had to thank you bring to life the WWN, it's a great resource
> > > > > for those who don't actively follow the development discussions.
> > >
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