On 2002.02.08 14:48 Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Sean Farley wrote:
Just relax and take deep breaths. :) As should we all.
It's difficult, because I see, once again, how the discussion deviates to mostly irrelevant topics. Quite frankly, I am very dissapointed with the current debate:
-- I provide arguments which details the feedback mechanism generated by each license. What do I get back: "nobody stops companies from contributing back under BSD" or "it is possible that companies will still contribute back under BSD", and crap like that. If people don't udnerstand that a system survives not on political will but on feedback loops built-in the system, they don't understand how the world works, and we're just wasting time.
Small correction:
If people don't understand that some people are decent and contribute back regardless of whether they are forced to or not, but others are not and require a feedback loop to force this behavior, then they don't understand how the world works and we're just wasting time.
-- instead of focusing the discussion on what's important for Wine, we get incredible FUD as "people will be afraid to link against the LGPL".
-- we get arguments of the form: "it is possible that..." But of course is "possible", for crying out loud!!! Everything is possible, but we should be concerned with what's _probable_!
I'll stop here, because I'm too upset to continue, to be honest...
I think it's more of an issue of people thinking too much in black/white terms and people that lean strong towards one side or the other.
Look no further than the US political system for a good example. You have the Republicans and the Democrats. Generally they take every issue to opposite ends of the extreme such that 99% of congress is at one extreme or the other, but 99% of the population wants neither extreme.
Essentially we could go on forver about X11/BSD vs. GPL. It's been discussed to death already folks. What we need are reasonable compromises. Of course you need to have people willing to compromise to do that. I suspect most developers are with the exception of the view vocal BSD people and the few vocal LGPL all the way people. I myself am certainly not at either extreme.
-Dave