Re: Hardy Heron -- Pulseaudio interferes with non-gnome audio

[Susan Cragin]

But wait! There are more! Alsa people tell me they have one for Ekiga. Gnome has one, too.
https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=3825
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=413552
I think a wiki page is a great idea, and I'll set one up later on http://ossri.harvee.org

-----Original Message-----
> From: Susan Cragin 
> Sent: Mar 19, 2008 9:03 AM
> To: Wine Developers 
> Cc: Dan Kegel 
> Subject: Re: Hardy Heron -- Pulseaudio interferes with non-gnome audio
>
> Wine has two bugs filed for this also:
> http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10495
> http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10910
> I am worried that everyone (WINE, ALSA, Pulse, Ubuntu) is not on the same page. Will try cross-posting bug information. 
> Part of the problem seems to be that the most-missed application is Skype, and some are trying to get away with blaming closed-source issues. 
> Tom -- I should include the link to your patch, yes, so that other developers have access to it?
> Susan
> Dan -- What do you think? Good idea?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tomas Carnecky 
> > Sent: Mar 18, 2008 5:14 PM
> > To: Susan Cragin 
> > Cc: [e-mail]
> > Subject: Re: Hardy Heron -- Pulseaudio interferes with non-gnome audio
> >
> > Susan Cragin wrote:
> > > The new default pulseaudio in Hardy screws up every program that isn't gnome, delivering terrible sound. 
> > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/198453
> >
> > Applications that use ALSA should work fine with the alsa pulse plugin - 
> >  should. Unfortunately the plugin has a few bugs, and the developers 
> > (of both pulseaudio and alsa) have been unresponsive in this matter. See
> > - http://www.pulseaudio.org/ticket/198
> > - https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=2601
> > > Question -- what does WINE do with pulseaudio?
> >
> > Some suggested to create a native PulseAudio wine driver. That would 
> > yield the best results as far as the performance and reliability goes. 
> > Unfortunately we'll be stuck with the alsa driver for some time to come, 
> > so I tried to do the best to make the alsa pulse plugin to work with 
> > wine. I had to patch both the wine alsa driver as well as the alsa pulse 
> > plugin and it worked fine for my taste.
> >
> > I submitted the patch to wine-patches:
> > http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-patches/2008-February/050561.html
> >
> > I don't know if the relevant alsa pulse plugin patch is publicly 
> > available, I haven't looked at that matter in a long time. Some of the 
> > needed patches are probably still in my local repositories. It makes no 
> > sense for me to work on this anymore until the developers respond to my 
> > questions.
> > > http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=112021
> >
> > I heard that the skype developers are very interested in getting skype 
> > working with pulseaudio, even helped tisting some patches. I have gotten 
> > skype to work with pulseaudio, I think if you apply the second patch 
> > attached to alsa bug #2601 skype will work. I haven't looked at the code 
> > since because apparently nobody from the alsa team is interested in 
> > fixing the bug.
> >
> > tom