Re: wrc doesn't seem to accept -r option,even though it is automatically generated by make file
I am not a wine "developer" (too ignorant for that), I am a (potential) user of the wine library,
Well I think you have better chances of getting an answer on wine-devel, as I think only a few developers read wine-users.
do I need to un-install my present wine installation?
Yes, but you can leave .wine and your fake windows installation, if you use one. The old config should "Just work", if it doesn't just use winesetuptk to make a new one. I don't know how to solve your problem, but it would be a good idea if you just installed the latest CVS version. If you really want the latest RPM, you can get it here http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/wine/wine-20031016-mdk.i586.rpm?download but the CVS would be a better solution, as the binary is stripped of all debug symbols, so it's harder to debug with a rpm version.
On November 11, 2003 11:39, Ivan Leo Murray-Smith wrote:
I don't know how to solve your problem, but it would be a good idea if you just installed the latest CVS version.
<whine>
I' just too inexperienced and too isolated to use CVS right now: an 800 page manual, configuring, using SSH, it threatens to take up the rest of the year just to get started, and I'm off to another mailing list when the inevitable "why doesn't it work" problems occur.
I've also discovered that with non-rpm source distributions, there is a "make install", but so far, nothing I have seen has a "make uninstall" that does anything, and that concerns me, when I see 70 MB of stuff flying off to 400 different places. (Maybe wine is not like that, but I just built the "insight" gdb, and I thought it would use my existing gdb, but it built and installed a new one, installed its own tk, (gee, what about the tk that is a part of Python) and has no way to uninstall.
I'm at a place where I'm wrestling with "how does the PATH get set", "how do you build a static library", "how do you build a shared library", "how does the loader find a shared library". Wrestling with ten thousand-line makefiles is sheer insanity from my perspective. I just hope that I can get my little program to compile and run with winelib, because if it that works, I won't have to use Windows in my day-to-day work.
</whine>
If you really want the latest RPM, you can get it here http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/wine/wine-20031016-mdk.i586.rpm?download but the CVS would be a better solution, as the binary is stripped of all debug symbols, so it's harder to debug with a rpm version.
OK, great, that link works today, but what about the wine libraries - wine-devel? What version, which rpm is compatible? There are only Suse and Red Hat rpms on sourceforge, and likely my original problem is a version mismatch (i.e. the winebuilder tools seem to generate makefile commands that other tools (wrc) don't understand)
On Tuesday 11 November 2003 01:22 pm, Parzival Herzog wrote:
On November 11, 2003 11:39, Ivan Leo Murray-Smith wrote:
I don't know how to solve your problem, but it would be a good idea if you just installed the latest CVS version.
<whine>
I' just too inexperienced and too isolated to use CVS right now: an 800 page manual, configuring, using SSH, it threatens to take up the rest of the year just to get started, and I'm off to another mailing list when the inevitable "why doesn't it work" problems occur.
I've also discovered that with non-rpm source distributions, there is a "make install", but so far, nothing I have seen has a "make uninstall" that does anything, and that concerns me, when I see 70 MB of stuff flying off to 400 different places. (Maybe wine is not like that, but I just built the "insight" gdb, and I thought it would use my existing gdb, but it built and installed a new one, installed its own tk, (gee, what about the tk that is a part of Python) and has no way to uninstall.
I'm at a place where I'm wrestling with "how does the PATH get set", "how do you build a static library", "how do you build a shared library", "how does the loader find a shared library". Wrestling with ten thousand-line makefiles is sheer insanity from my perspective. I just hope that I can get my little program to compile and run with winelib, because if it that works, I won't have to use Windows in my day-to-day work.
</whine>
There, there, no need to <whine />, it's going to be OK! Try following the instructions on this page:
http://www.winehq.com/site/cvs
Just do what it says, step-by-step. You don't need ssh for this, just cvs. That page even tells you how to keep your wine up-to-date via cvs once you get it.
And, wine just happens to support "make uninstall".
Sounds to me like you are letting yourself get overwhelmed by the scope of what you do not know. For example, very few people here (although there are probably one or two) would actually know the full answer to "how does the loader find a shared library". You don't need to know that for your experiment. Instead, just read the "ld.so" manpage and the pages it references. Think of it like your television: you don't care how the "ion gun" works... just how to change the channel, volume, etc.
(As for the make uninstall thing, you hit the nail on the head: where did all those binaries go? Many unixy programs support a "--prefix=[path]" argument at the "configure" stage of the build; so all your binaries go under that directory; for example, to install my wine, I use --prefix=/opt/wine, which puts wine in /opt/wine/bin, /opt/wine/lib, etc. But it certainly can get tricky keeping track of this if you are building tons of stuff from source and putting it all in "/usr" or "/usr/local", as is common practice. The best solution I know of, if you are building lots of stuff from source, is to use gentoo, which really does rigorously keep track of what 'make install' did. But I should warn you that gentoo is not always so easy to get up and running as other distributions.)
Good luck! You are now in the nasty horizontal part of the learning curve for unix programming and wine. It does get better, just be patient and persistent, and you will prevail.
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