There already is an app that can do the menus, the ros explorer. If it was compiled as a winelib app, it would solve the menu problem, at least for who likes desktop mode (And the ros explorer makes wine look like a "real" emulator)
On Monday 13 October 2003 04:56 pm, Ivan Leo Murray-Smith wrote:
There already is an app that can do the menus, the ros explorer. If it was compiled as a winelib app, it would solve the menu problem, at least for who likes desktop mode (And the ros explorer makes wine look like a "real" emulator)
Yes but I think what Robert van Herk wants is something integrated with the window manager. For example his recent post suggests a picture like
[wine .exe server] <--> [native linux client] <--> [kde / gnome / twm]
The real challenge would presumably be on the linux client side, and obviously the data transport provides some exciting open questions.
There is a certain logic to this arrangement imo... who wants some wacky "explorer.exe" if they are simply thumbing through the kde or gnome menus? Not that I disapprove of ros explorer, quite the contrary! ros explorer approximates the behavior of windows explorer, which wine needs for a number of reasons, not the least of which is that it's an integral part of the OS... whereas I think Robert van Herk means to create a bridge or portal allowing native frameworks like gnome to integrate the wine menus into their own...
Correct me if I have this all wrong of course :P But if that's the case then it's a different animal from ros explorer, and imo a worthwhile effort.
--- "Gregory M. Turner" gmturner007@ameritech.net wrote:
There is a certain logic to this arrangement imo... who wants some wacky "explorer.exe" if they are simply thumbing through the kde or gnome menus? Not that I disapprove of ros explorer, quite the contrary! ros explorer approximates the behavior of windows explorer, which wine needs for a number of reasons, not the least of which is that it's an integral part of the OS... whereas I think Robert van Herk means to create a bridge or portal allowing native frameworks like gnome to integrate the wine menus into their own...
Your right Greg. I for one want to be able to run KDE or GNOME and still have my WINE applications integrate cleanly. We do need some sort of a bridge on the Unix side for the Window manager. Any such interface that is developed needs to be a external application that sits in the middle of WINE and the WM. Any such application need to use the interfaces provided by shell32 and the shell namespace. I am thinking like SGI file access notification program they wrote that is used in natulas. libFAM isnt it?
Also this application cant rob CodeWeavers of too much money. =)
Correct me if I have this all wrong of course :P But if that's the case then it's a different animal from ros explorer, and imo a worthwhile effort.
Right. The ReactOS explorer is a very limited purpose application. If I was going to be running nothing but Windows applications I could see how it might be of use to me under Linux. I dont know if the "Desktop" option still exists in WINE but it would be nice to have ros-explorer when running WINE in desktop mode under Linux. The I could just run all of my Win32 apps from one place.
Thanks Steven
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