I'm not a developer, but I joined to make a humble suggestion in a place where someone might actually have the power to act on it.
Does anyone think it would be a good idea to split the Top 25 into two lists, one for games, and one for applications/other?
By my count, every item of the top 10 is a game. 22 out of the Top 25 are games or game-related.
I don't think it's necessarily true that more people are interested in running The Sims than iTunes, or that The Sims is or should be a higher priority than having iTunes working.
I think it gives the wrong impression of wine and its priorities, and makes a person feel a bit hopeless voting for an application no matter how many millions of people are users of that application on Windows. I think people would be more interested in voting for applications if they could get feedback on WineHQ.
Thoughts?
On Saturday 18 October 2008 00:18:24 Jeff Davis wrote:
I'm not a developer, but I joined to make a humble suggestion in a place where someone might actually have the power to act on it.
Does anyone think it would be a good idea to split the Top 25 into two lists, one for games, and one for applications/other?
By my count, every item of the top 10 is a game. 22 out of the Top 25 are games or game-related.
I don't think it's necessarily true that more people are interested in running The Sims than iTunes, or that The Sims is or should be a higher priority than having iTunes working.
I think it gives the wrong impression of wine and its priorities, and makes a person feel a bit hopeless voting for an application no matter how many millions of people are users of that application on Windows. I think people would be more interested in voting for applications if they could get feedback on WineHQ.
Thoughts?
I wonder if we should perhaps just remove the AppDB voting system alltogether. As you said, it doesn't seem to be giving a good representation of users' interests.
Alexander N. Sørnes
Do developers set priorities based on what's on the voting list anyway? I mean, does any developer ever really say 'Wow, Bioshock has 42 votes, maybe I should work on that tomorrow'? That's almost certainly not the case.
For the longest time as a user I had the impression that wine developers spend half of their time writing hacks to make this week's new game work. Probably inaccurate, but that's the impression I Ithink part of that perception came from seeing what apps were being voted on.
I know for a fact the list is at least somewhat distorted. Magic The Gathering: Online is #3 on the list, and I was basically the one that helped get it to that position by asking people on other sites to vote if they wanted to see it working under Linux. About 100 people voted for it within 72 hours. Despite that, it's not a very popular app. It's something I think Linux gamers might be interested in, in general, but even on Windows it probably has less than 50,000 active accounts.
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 6:46 PM, Alexander Nicolaysen Sørnes < alex@thehandofagony.com> wrote:
I wonder if we should perhaps just remove the AppDB voting system alltogether. As you said, it doesn't seem to be giving a good representation of users' interests.
Alexander N. Sørnes
i think that list could prove useful, although i agree it could be split on to apps and games, makes all sense. even if devs don't look at it right now maybe someone does and wants to hack on top voters.
the MTGO 3 example is interesting, i'm the maintainer of the game, and that surge in the forums of wizards made many windows users vote for it in wine. although it's not a good measure for the importance of the game in the linux comunity it would be interesting to see if it is the pushing app to make secur32 and schannel work on wine or something else.
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 18:58:27 -0400From: heavensblade23@gmail.comTo: alex@thehandofagony.com; wine-devel@winehq.orgSubject: Re: Splitting the appdb Top 25 list Do developers set priorities based on what's on the voting list anyway? I mean, does any developer ever really say 'Wow, Bioshock has42 votes, maybe I should work on that tomorrow'? That's almost certainly not the case. I know for a fact the list is at least somewhat distorted. Magic The Gathering: Online is #3 on the list, and I was basically the one that helped getit to that position by asking people on other sites to vote if they wanted to see it working under Linux. About 100 people voted for it within 72 hours.Despite that, it's not a very popular app. It's something I think Linux gamers might be interested in, in general, but even on Windows it probably has lessthan 50,000 active accounts. On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 6:46 PM, Alexander Nicolaysen Sørnes alex@thehandofagony.com wrote:
I wonder if we should perhaps just remove the AppDB voting system alltogether.As you said, it doesn't seem to be giving a good representation of users'interests.Alexander N. Sørnes
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