On November 27, 2002 10:55 am, Sean Mitchell wrote:
I told my boss that I posted the query last night and had a
response with a
fix waiting for me this morning. He is lukewarm about Open
Source, but when
I told him about this he was very, very impressed. He's
never seen that
sort of response from a commercial vendor except in a few emergency situations.
It's hard to explain this to people without them experiencing it, isn't it? I have tried several times to explain it, but I sound as I'm exagerating every time... :) On the other hand, response from commercial vendors of large apps has always been bad for me. Real bad. Oh well...
Incidentally, should I open a bug for this, or is it
already committed to
the tree?
It's not commited, but I would not bother with it. The patch is in Alexandre's queue, and it should make it in the tree anytime now.
Hmm. Which reminds me. In theory we could do even better. Since Alexandre has to approve each patch we get a slightly larger "turnaround" time for "obvious" fixes like the one this thread is about.
So why not have a special CVS tree (or perhaps branch of the current tree) for Winelib users where anybody of the regular Wine developers could check in "obvious" fixes for immediate use.
Lets impress even more people of our quick response. :-) While this perhaps is 1. Perhaps something CVS is unsuited for (but Alexandre said we might switch to Subversion eventually). 2. Perhaps something that should wait until post 1.0 it might be worth discussing.
Am Mit, 2002-11-27 um 17.36 schrieb Patrik Stridvall:
Hmm. Which reminds me. In theory we could do even better. Since Alexandre has to approve each patch we get a slightly larger "turnaround" time for "obvious" fixes like the one this thread is about.
So why not have a special CVS tree (or perhaps branch of the current tree) for Winelib users where anybody of the regular Wine developers could check in "obvious" fixes for immediate use.
Ever heard of Rusty Russell's "patch monkey" for the Linux kernel?
Martin
PS even if Sean is happy now, and his boss too, let's keep realistic - we were able to give quick feedback here because the solution was simple.
On November 27, 2002 01:07 pm, Martin Wilck wrote:
PS even if Sean is happy now, and his boss too, let's keep realistic - we were able to give quick feedback here because the solution was simple.
Indeed. But why should anyone expect miracles? In my experience, I always got much better feedback on the web than from big companies. And this while working on _huge_ contracts.
I don't think so. I'm living it all the time in my work. The difference between the web and the society is HIERARCHY.
A simple problem on a commercial product (or enterprise) needs : - ~ 100 incident tickets to the incident service (lots of time waste) - an answer to be found. - say 'PROBLEM IS FIXED WHEN DOING THIS', which takes 90% of the total time of reaction.
PS even if Sean is happy now, and his boss too, let's keep realistic
we were able to give quick feedback here because the solution was simple.
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