I've been thinking about joining GSoC as a student this year. As an idea I propose Raw Input, and I seek your advise. Is this topic good, what are possible catches, etc. I think that it might be possible to finally do a decent implementation, that would (besides mouse and keyboard) also support joysticks and possibly some other input devices - tablets and multiple mice and keyboards. What do you think about this topic?
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On 4 April 2012 20:21, Eryk Wieliczko ewdevel@gmail.com wrote:
I've been thinking about joining GSoC as a student this year. As an idea I propose Raw Input, and I seek your advise. Is this topic good, what are possible catches, etc. I think that it might be possible to finally do a decent implementation, that would (besides mouse and keyboard) also support joysticks and possibly some other input devices - tablets and multiple mice and keyboards. What do you think about this topic?
My impression of Raw Input is that it's the kind of thing that's fairly hard even for someone already familiar with all the areas of Wine involved. That probably makes it unsuitable for GSoC, although I suppose there are no hard rules for what is or isn't suitable.
On 04/04/2012 12:34 PM, Henri Verbeet wrote:
On 4 April 2012 20:21, Eryk Wieliczkoewdevel@gmail.com wrote:
I've been thinking about joining GSoC as a student this year. As an idea I propose Raw Input, and I seek your advise. Is this topic good, what are possible catches, etc. I think that it might be possible to finally do a decent implementation, that would (besides mouse and keyboard) also support joysticks and possibly some other input devices - tablets and multiple mice and keyboards. What do you think about this topic?
My impression of Raw Input is that it's the kind of thing that's fairly hard even for someone already familiar with all the areas of Wine involved. That probably makes it unsuitable for GSoC, although I suppose there are no hard rules for what is or isn't suitable.
It's not really that hard. The hard part is getting design accepted by AJ. Raw Input has to heavily interact with wine server. And any changes there are hard to get right and eventually accepted.
So, if you have an idea of how you want to do it. And this idea is good enough to go in - that's fine. But be ready to completely redesign & re-code some pieces if design won't be accepted.
Vitaliy.
In my opinion this implementation does not have to support exotic devices like tablets. Bear in mind, that all applications affected by raw input are games (at least for now), so in my opinion this implementation have to be easy to extend to other devices - it doesn't have to directly support it. My main focus would be to support mouse (possibly mice), keyboard and joysticks. Tablets may wait for a time, when software starts to use them. Every one of these input devices (possibly except many mice support) are already implemented.
It'd be hard to complete, but I still think it might be done, because 4 months as a full time job is a lot of time to spend on one subject. Also, we have "hacky, but working" infamous raw3.patch, which I could use for reference - of course the end goal will be to get something, that would be accepted by AJ.
Also Vitaliy, thanks for the hint. I agree, that it's very important to make good desing and consult it on maillist before writing any code. That's what I'll do.
W dniu 5 kwietnia 2012 04:10 użytkownik Vitaliy Margolen wine-devel@kievinfo.com napisał:
On 04/04/2012 12:34 PM, Henri Verbeet wrote:
On 4 April 2012 20:21, Eryk Wieliczkoewdevel@gmail.com wrote:
I've been thinking about joining GSoC as a student this year. As an idea I propose Raw Input, and I seek your advise. Is this topic good, what are possible catches, etc. I think that it might be possible to finally do a decent implementation, that would (besides mouse and keyboard) also support joysticks and possibly some other input devices - tablets and multiple mice and keyboards. What do you think about this topic?
My impression of Raw Input is that it's the kind of thing that's fairly hard even for someone already familiar with all the areas of Wine involved. That probably makes it unsuitable for GSoC, although I suppose there are no hard rules for what is or isn't suitable.
It's not really that hard. The hard part is getting design accepted by AJ. Raw Input has to heavily interact with wine server. And any changes there are hard to get right and eventually accepted.
So, if you have an idea of how you want to do it. And this idea is good enough to go in - that's fine. But be ready to completely redesign & re-code some pieces if design won't be accepted.
Vitaliy.
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