icons contribuition

[Marcio Esper]

Hello,

My name is Marcio Esper.

The Ivan tell me than I can send to you using this e-mail some icons.
> We could do with some better icons, email [e-mail] if you
> want to contribute

I made a new icon to be used with wine.

128x128, 64x64, 48x48, 32x32, 16x16.

I hope you like it.

The icons are made in Kpovmodeler on Mandrake linux 10 AMD64 and you can
use and spread it without any restrition just geve me credits puting my
name in the readmes and or were you think a good place to talk about it.
;p

If we whant more models and sizes, let me know.

Best regards,

Marcio Esper

[Troy Rollo]

On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:55, Marcio Esper wrote:
> I made a new icon to be used with wine.
>
> 128x128, 64x64, 48x48, 32x32, 16x16.

Sorry, but these can't be used in WINE. The 128x128 icon clearly shows that 
the graphic is a derivative work incorporating the standard Windows logo 
(which is a copyright work, not just a trademark), and it appears also the 
Windows 95 retail box design (also a copyright work).

[Marcio Esper]

Hi folks,

On Tue, 2004-07-27 at 19:26, Troy Rollo wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:55, Marcio Esper wrote:
> > I made a new icon to be used with wine.
> >
> > 128x128, 64x64, 48x48, 32x32, 16x16.
>
> Sorry, but these can't be used in WINE. The 128x128 icon clearly shows that 
> the graphic is a derivative work incorporating the standard Windows logo 
> (which is a copyright work, not just a trademark), and it appears also the 
> Windows 95 retail box design (also a copyright work).

Hmmm, ok, I make again without the win box.
I hope you like now :)

Best regards,

Marcio

[Troy Rollo]

On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 08:52, Marcio Esper wrote:
> Hmmm, ok, I make again without the win box.
> I hope you like now :)

Well there's no legal problems with the second set, so now it's just a matter 
of Alexandre's approval and somebody figuring out where they should go.

[Andreas Mohr]

Hi,

On Tue, Jul 27, 2004 at 07:52:36PM -0300, Marcio Esper wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> On Tue, 2004-07-27 at 19:26, Troy Rollo wrote:
> > On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:55, Marcio Esper wrote:
> > > I made a new icon to be used with wine.
> > >
> > > 128x128, 64x64, 48x48, 32x32, 16x16.
> >
> > Sorry, but these can't be used in WINE. The 128x128 icon clearly shows that 
> > the graphic is a derivative work incorporating the standard Windows logo 
> > (which is a copyright work, not just a trademark), and it appears also the 
> > Windows 95 retail box design (also a copyright work).
>
> Hmmm, ok, I make again without the win box.
> I hope you like now :)

I'm afraid I'm still not too convinced.
While I like a more "modern", rendered, look (though I didn't like the
first Win95 box design at all), I believe that brand recognition is very very
very important. Since your icons deviate a lot from our existing logo,
they shouldn't be used in this form in my view.
...unless we think the current Wine logo is "wrong" (e.g. wrong Wine glass)
and should be fixed to be an entirely different logo.
But I really really think that changing the Wine logo every few months
because there's a new shiny and glitzy logo out there is a major mistake.
Just look at what kind of a ridiculous branding game Mozilla played:
Netscape, Phoenix, Firebird, Firefox, Mozilla Suite, ..., each with its
own new logo having no brand recognition...
No wonder uninformed people are still tending towards downloading the latest
Netscape offering (nevermind that each version is just a slightly outdated
version of Mozilla).

I think Wine should have a "stable" base logo theme, with "improved" versions
of this base version as new people get new ideas how to design this base
Wine logo.

OK, so... should we:
a) have a stable base icon design or not? (me: YES, we should!)
b) change our current logo framework? (me: not sure, but the glass is wrong,
   so...)

Andreas Mohr

[Marcio Esper]

On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 04:35, Andreas Mohr wrote:
> Hi,
> I think Wine should have a "stable" base logo theme, with "improved" versions
> of this base version as new people get new ideas how to design this base
> Wine logo.
>
> OK, so... should we:
> a) have a stable base icon design or not? (me: YES, we should!)
> b) change our current logo framework? (me: not sure, but the glass is wrong,
>    so...)

May be we like now.

I use the traditional logo inside a modern Wine glass
look by top, a very light set ofthe colors rebember the win logo colors.
to the user assign wine with win. May be we can talk about a new power
with a traditional soul inside :)
The semitranparency gray color look fine in a dark or a light desktop :)

I hope you enjoy.

If we need more graphics, let me know.

best regards,

Marcio.