Hi,
I know that I was pointed to the README file for my first german translation "because it is pretty stable and no major overhauls are planned". ;-) Nevertheless, I refuse to not offer you a little bit of my time to update some parts of the README and README.de files (the other translators would have to follow because I don't speak their languages well enough).
I have two major update favorites:
1) Fabian Cenedese and others have made some good remarks about parts of the README being not precise enough or a little bit wrong / outdated. I would like to work on these sections.
2) Someone on the ML of my local LUG asked a rather simple question that would fit to the "quick start" section IMO. He asked how to include original MS fonts into wine because some Windows application seems to demand them being present (physically). A short explanation of this and the possibility to use native DLL files would perfect to a README file I think. Using native files certainly is not a primary goal of wine development; on the other hand it could help new users or users with tricky applications a lot.
I will wait for your positive or negative feedback before I will post to wine-patches. If updating the README at this time is not wanted at all, please let me also know. I would offer then my help later.
Christian
Christian Britz wrote:
- Fabian Cenedese and others have made some good remarks about parts of
the README being not precise enough or a little bit wrong / outdated. I would like to work on these sections.
If a Doc is outdated then it should be updated. I woul'd try to do everything in one patch. This way the others won't have to sync two or three extra times...
Just to say all other docs would then be out of sync is not a good reason to have wrong docu.
Tom
On March 11, 2004 4:35 pm, Christian Britz wrote:
Hi,
I know that I was pointed to the README file for my first german translation "because it is pretty stable and no major overhauls are planned". ;-) Nevertheless, I refuse to not offer you a little bit of my time to update some parts of the README and README.de files (the other translators would have to follow because I don't speak their languages well enough).
I have two major update favorites:
- Fabian Cenedese and others have made some good remarks about parts of
the README being not precise enough or a little bit wrong / outdated. I would like to work on these sections.
Well, it's better to create a patch and post it to the list. This way we know precisely what you have in mind, and we can comment on that.
- Someone on the ML of my local LUG asked a rather simple question that
would fit to the "quick start" section IMO. He asked how to include original MS fonts into wine because some Windows application seems to demand them being present (physically). A short explanation of this and the possibility to use native DLL files would perfect to a README file I think. Using native files certainly is not a primary goal of wine development; on the other hand it could help new users or users with tricky applications a lot.
Hmm, I don't know about this one. The README is long enough as it is, and having the native DLL discussion in there will only make it longer. I think we should just refer people to the User Guide where is the proper place to document these matters.
Dimitrie,
Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
Well, it's better to create a patch and post it to the list. This way we know precisely what you have in mind, and we can comment on that.
I will prepare my patch tommorow. Should I sent it to wine-devel or wine-patches to discuss it? I refer to the comments in my original contribution offer thread.
Hmm, I don't know about this one. The README is long enough as it is, and having the native DLL discussion in there will only make it longer. I think we should just refer people to the User Guide where is the proper place to document these matters.
Well, I didn't have hundreds of lines in mind; the font issue could be explained in one sentence, I think! I would like to give the users just the basic knowledge THAT it is possible to use native DLLs and fonts. For detailled Information I would redirect them to the User Guide.
I ask you again to tell me if a update of the README is not really wanted at all this time, I would have no problem with this (plenty other tasks to do). :-)
Bye Christian
On March 11, 2004 9:58 pm, Christian Britz wrote:
I will prepare my patch tommorow. Should I sent it to wine-devel or wine-patches to discuss it?
wine-patches.
I would like to give the users just the basic knowledge THAT it is possible to use native DLLs and fonts. For detailled Information I would redirect them to the User Guide.
Well you can say "If you have a native Windows installation, you can use some of its native components with Wine. For details..."
I ask you again to tell me if a update of the README is not really wanted at all this time, I would have no problem with this (plenty other tasks to do). :-)
Not sure if it's needed, I haven't reviewed it lately.
Hi,
here is my patch for the README file. If you like it, i will also send you my updated german README.de
Christian
Dimitrie O. Paun schrieb:
On March 11, 2004 9:58 pm, Christian Britz wrote:
I will prepare my patch tommorow. Should I sent it to wine-devel or wine-patches to discuss it?
wine-patches.
I would like to give the users just the basic knowledge THAT it is possible to use native DLLs and fonts. For detailled Information I would redirect them to the User Guide.
Well you can say "If you have a native Windows installation, you can use some of its native components with Wine. For details..."
I ask you again to tell me if a update of the README is not really wanted at all this time, I would have no problem with this (plenty other tasks to do). :-)
Not sure if it's needed, I haven't reviewed it lately.
--- /usr/src/wine/README Wed Nov 26 04:55:02 2003 +++ /usr/src/wine/README.new Sat Mar 13 20:41:37 2004 @@ -24,6 +24,13 @@ (see "DOCUMENTATION"), and especially the wealth of information found at http://www.winehq.org.
+This is still a developers only release. There are many bugs +and unimplemented features. Most applications still do not work +correctly. The ability to use native Microsoft Windows dll and +font files is not a primary goal of Wine but by using them you +can gain better compatibility with tricky applications. +Please read the documentation for details. + 3. REQUIREMENTS
To compile and run Wine, you must have one of the following: @@ -123,9 +130,9 @@
5. SETUP
-Once Wine has been built correctly, you can do "make install"; this -will install the wine executable, the Wine man page, and a few other -needed files. +Once Wine has been built correctly, you can do "make install" either as +root or using sudo; this will install the wine executable, the Wine +man page, and a few other needed files.
Don't forget to uninstall any conflicting previous Wine installation first. Try either "dpkg -r wine" or "rpm -e wine" or "make uninstall" @@ -139,6 +146,7 @@ man page (documentation/wine.conf.man). The file documentation/samples/config contains an example configuration file which has to be adapted and copied to the location mentioned above. +The recommended installer does this work for you.
Don't forget to add vital registry entries by applying winedefault.reg with programs/regedit/. See documentation/ directory for details.
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Christian Britz -
Dimitrie O. Paun -
Tom