WineConf and sound recording

[M. GOUJON]

Hi everyone,

Recordings of previous wine confs have been somewhat disappointing 
especially the sound part: microphone buggy, people asking question too 
far from the micro...
Some of you are native English speakers, others not and understanding 
everyone quickly becomes a challenge (and you ends up with a headache).

May I suggest you to buy some clip-on microphones ?
Handheld ones ones are heavy and people always forget to speak in it.
If you wanna invest some bucks, digital recorders are the best option.

If needed, I can donate those missing bucks.

[Stefan Dösinger]

> Am 29.03.2018 um 20:30 schrieb M. GOUJON :
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Recordings of previous wine confs have been somewhat disappointing especially the sound part: microphone buggy, people asking question too far from the micro...
> Some of you are native English speakers, others not and understanding everyone quickly becomes a challenge (and you ends up with a headache).

I agree. I used my camera which was far away from the speaker, and placed one phone near the presenter and one phone at the other end of the room. Then I mixed the sound channels as appropriate and added subtitles especially to questions. I did not subtitle the main presentation because it'd be way too much work. Doing the video editing was always a lot of work, but I hope I created a useful result out of the crappy raw data.
> May I suggest you to buy some clip-on microphones ?
> Handheld ones ones are heavy and people always forget to speak in it.
> If you wanna invest some bucks, digital recorders are the best option.

I'm afraid the answer is no. The main requirement for the recording is that it does not interrupt the conference itself. We had clip on microphones and mics to pass around at FOSDEM and on the WineConf 2007 in Zurich, and they always cause problems. Batteries are empty, clips coming off, passing around the microphone slows down conversations, etc.

What would be highly welcome is help with editing the videos afterwards. If someone has the patience to create subtitles for everything we'd make life easier for non-native speakers.

[Francois Gouget]

On Fri, 30 Mar 2018, Stefan Dösinger wrote:
[...]
> What would be highly welcome is help with editing the videos 
> afterwards. If someone has the patience to create subtitles for 
> everything we'd make life easier for non-native speakers.

What software do you use for the editing? Avidemux? With a pinch of 
Audacity? What format do you use for the vidéo during editing?

[Stefan Dösinger]

> Am 31.03.2018 um 09:43 schrieb Francois Gouget :
>
> On Fri, 30 Mar 2018, Stefan Dösinger wrote:
> [...]
> > What would be highly welcome is help with editing the videos 
> > afterwards. If someone has the patience to create subtitles for 
> > everything we'd make life easier for non-native speakers.
>
> What software do you use for the editing? Avidemux? With a pinch of 
> Audacity? What format do you use for the vidéo during editing?

I used Cinelerra. It is horribly buggy, but it was the only software I could find that was able to work with multiple video (camera, slides) and audio (camera, phones) input streams and allowed me to mix and match between them. I generally kept the video in its original format, and had Cinelerra output motion jpeg with the lowest possible compression ratio and then compressed it into mp4 with VLC. Cinelerra's MP4 output produced ungodly huge files.

In my search for video editing software Avidemux and Audacity did not come up. Avidemux looks rather simplistic, and I'm not sure if Audacity supports video.

Adobe Premiere is a commercial solution I know of, but it has a rather steep price tag.

[Bas Weelinck]

If I might offer a few suggestions,
> From the stories I've heard, Blender provides a good video editing suite

these days, which should include all the support needed for multiple
video and audio inputs and transitioning between them. Blender is also a
project with very active development and the aim of being part of a
production pipeline. The most obvious problem with Blender is overcoming
the learning curve.

And if we're talking live casting, OBS (open broadcaster software) is
used a lot now, in favor of proprietary solutions such as X-split even,
and should also handle multiple audio and video sources without problem
and can also do overlays.

Finally, perhaps the people behind FOSDEM might also offer some advice:
[e-mail]

Cheers,

Bas

On 2018年03月31日 15:33, Stefan Dösinger wrote:
> > Am 31.03.2018 um 09:43 schrieb Francois Gouget :
> >
> > On Fri, 30 Mar 2018, Stefan Dösinger wrote:
> > [...]
> > > What would be highly welcome is help with editing the videos 
> > > afterwards. If someone has the patience to create subtitles for 
> > > everything we'd make life easier for non-native speakers.
> >
> > What software do you use for the editing? Avidemux? With a pinch of 
> > Audacity? What format do you use for the vidéo during editing?
>
> I used Cinelerra. It is horribly buggy, but it was the only software I could find that was able to work with multiple video (camera, slides) and audio (camera, phones) input streams and allowed me to mix and match between them. I generally kept the video in its original format, and had Cinelerra output motion jpeg with the lowest possible compression ratio and then compressed it into mp4 with VLC. Cinelerra's MP4 output produced ungodly huge files.
>
> In my search for video editing software Avidemux and Audacity did not come up. Avidemux looks rather simplistic, and I'm not sure if Audacity supports video.
>
> Adobe Premiere is a commercial solution I know of, but it has a rather steep price tag.