Hello everyone,
A couple months back I voulenteered to do a Acknowledgment page and to say the least i'm a bit stuck. I have a first draft/alpha that i'm going to attach here. I would like to know if there is anyone who would like join me in doing this page? Or if anyone here has some ideas on how to improve, complete this page?
I would like to see a discussion on setting a criteria for this page. As this will be a very important page on the winehq site. So any and all feedback is most welcome.
Tom
business that donated significant code to Wine
http://www.codeweavers.com/site/services/accomplishments
1. Made Wine work with Microsoft Office, Adobe Photoshop, Lotus Notes and Quicken 2. Made Wine work with QuickTime, Windows Media Player and Shockwave 3. The Wine 1.0 Initiative 4. Wine Bugs Database 5. Wine Application Database 6. WineHQ Redesign 7. Wine Documentation 8. Winemaker, or making Winelib actually useful 9. Easy to use Configuration 10. Address Space Separation 11. Unicode/code pages support 12. Dramatic window management revision 13. Shared Window handles 14. Most of the DLL separation work 15. Debugging API 16. Lots of work on the common controls 17. About a gazillion bug fixes 18. Making many more installers work
Corel dedicated a team of paid engineers to the Wine project in January 1999. This team focused on adding functionality to Wine that let Corel applications, such as WordPerfect, CorelDRAW, and Quattro Pro run on Linux and be ported to native Linux applications. In the past, Corel relied on conventional porting techniques to move some of its applications (Corel WordPerfect 8) to Linux. This provided a fast way to get these applications to Linux, but meant that porting had to be repeated with each new version. Otherwise, development had to be maintained on two separate code bases, which required considerably greater resources. Although there is an up-front investment in time and energy required to make Wine viable, once it reaches a high enough level, the facilities it provides can be used repeatedly to port many applications with minimal engineering effort.
http://www.macadamian.com/column/wine101.html
macadamian got involved with the Wine project through partnership with Corel Corporation.
1. 2D DirectDraw 2. DirectSound 3. DirectInput 4. DCOM, RPC 5. WIDL IDL compiler 6. Wininet code, including SSL support.
worked on winelib extensively in order to make Canvas work.
http://www.fujitsu-siemens.com/index.html
Implementation of Windows-style asynchronous I/O over sockets in Wine. As well as small contributions to advapi32 and netapi32.
1.Wine Registry Editor (regedit) contributions. 2.Shell32.dll code contributions 3.Am I missing anything ??????????????
People that donated money
Lindows.com helped to put on the first Wine developer's conference in 2002, by both hosting it and paying travel expenses for many major Wine developers.
Codeweavers.com helped to put on the second Wine developer's conference in 2004, by both hosting it and paying some expenses for major Wine developers.
Below is a short list of people who have given money to the wpf. If you have given money to this fund and would like to be included on this page just send a e-mail to wine-devel and ask for inclusion.
* Dimitrie O. Paun * Michael Stefaniuc * Nick Capik * Tom Wickline * Gregory M. Turner * Sylvain Petreolle * Dan Kegel * John Alvord * Kirk Ruff * David L. Harper * Bob Hepple * Mark A. Horton * Kevin P. Lawton * The Syntropy Institute * James Woulfe * VMWare Inc.
Major code contributors
Okay this is where I'm really stuck... First off I was not here the first eight years of this project so I have no idea of who was the guru of the day. Also some may say if you list one person you should list everyone. But that is the job of the Authors page. So should I just say here is the full list of people who have given there time and work and link to the Authors page ?
Hmm. I have several thoughts on this. First, I think that corporate sponsors get enough 'props'. While I appreciate the gesture, I'd rather the acknowledgements page highlight the many people who do good work for Wine without pay or other recompense.
I'm not suggesting you remove credit for corporate sponsors (Corel's contribution, in particular, I have long felt has been under appreciated by the larger community), but I'd think that all parties should be treated equally, and with perhaps a shorter blurb about their contributions.
Now add $1.48 to that $0.02, and you can get a cup of coffee...
Cheers,
Jer
Tom wrote:
Hello everyone,
A couple months back I voulenteered to do a Acknowledgment page and to say the least i'm a bit stuck. I have a first draft/alpha that i'm going to attach here. I would like to know if there is anyone who would like join me in doing this page? Or if anyone here has some ideas on how to improve, complete this page?
I would like to see a discussion on setting a criteria for this page. As this will be a very important page on the winehq site. So any and all feedback is most welcome.
Tom
business that donated significant code to Winehttp://www.codeweavers.com/site/services/accomplishments
- Made Wine work with Microsoft Office, Adobe Photoshop, Lotus Notes and Quicken
- Made Wine work with QuickTime, Windows Media Player and Shockwave
- The Wine 1.0 Initiative
- Wine Bugs Database
- Wine Application Database
- WineHQ Redesign
- Wine Documentation
- Winemaker, or making Winelib actually useful
- Easy to use Configuration
- Address Space Separation
- Unicode/code pages support
- Dramatic window management revision
- Shared Window handles
- Most of the DLL separation work
- Debugging API
- Lots of work on the common controls
- About a gazillion bug fixes
- Making many more installers work
Corel dedicated a team of paid engineers to the Wine project in January 1999. This team focused on adding functionality to Wine that let Corel applications, such as WordPerfect, CorelDRAW, and Quattro Pro run on Linux and be ported to native Linux applications. In the past, Corel relied on conventional porting techniques to move some of its applications (Corel WordPerfect 8) to Linux. This provided a fast way to get these applications to Linux, but meant that porting had to be repeated with each new version. Otherwise, development had to be maintained on two separate code bases, which required considerably greater resources. Although there is an up-front investment in time and energy required to make Wine viable, once it reaches a high enough level, the facilities it provides can be used repeatedly to port many applications with minimal engineering effort.
http://www.macadamian.com/column/wine101.html
macadamian got involved with the Wine project through partnership with Corel Corporation.
- 2D DirectDraw
- DirectSound
- DirectInput
- DCOM, RPC
- WIDL IDL compiler
- Wininet code, including SSL support.
worked on winelib extensively in order to make Canvas work.
http://www.fujitsu-siemens.com/index.html
Implementation of Windows-style asynchronous I/O over sockets in Wine. As well as small contributions to advapi32 and netapi32.
1.Wine Registry Editor (regedit) contributions. 2.Shell32.dll code contributions 3.Am I missing anything ??????????????
People that donated moneyLindows.com helped to put on the first Wine developer's conference in 2002, by both hosting it and paying travel expenses for many major Wine developers.
Codeweavers.com helped to put on the second Wine developer's conference in 2004, by both hosting it and paying some expenses for major Wine developers.
Below is a short list of people who have given money to the wpf. If you have given money to this fund and would like to be included on this page just send a e-mail to wine-devel and ask for inclusion.
* Dimitrie O. Paun * Michael Stefaniuc * Nick Capik * Tom Wickline * Gregory M. Turner * Sylvain Petreolle * Dan Kegel * John Alvord * Kirk Ruff * David L. Harper * Bob Hepple * Mark A. Horton * Kevin P. Lawton * The Syntropy Institute * James Woulfe * VMWare Inc. Major code contributorsOkay this is where I'm really stuck... First off I was not here the first eight years of this project so I have no idea of who was the guru of the day. Also some may say if you list one person you should list everyone. But that is the job of the Authors page. So should I just say here is the full list of people who have given there time and work and link to the Authors page ?
On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 08:56:24AM -0500, Jeremy White wrote:
Hmm. I have several thoughts on this. First, I think that corporate sponsors get enough 'props'. While I appreciate the gesture, I'd rather the acknowledgements page highlight the many people who do good work for Wine without pay or other recompense.
I still find it informative to see what companies did, so I suggest we simply move them towards the bottom of the page, rather then remove the info altogether.
Jeremy White wrote:
Hmm. I have several thoughts on this. First, I think that corporate sponsors get enough 'props'. While I appreciate the gesture, I'd rather the acknowledgements page highlight the many people who do good work for Wine without pay or other recompense.
Hello Jer,
But that would just be a copy of the who's who? http://www.winehq.org/site/who
I could link to it and say here is a list of current developers. and link to the Authors page and say here is a list of all developers.
As I see it if a developer is currently active they should be listed in the who's who, and if they have given in the past but are no longer active there still listed in the Authors page.
So this leaves corporate sponsors and people that have given to the wpf.
Or, do you suggest we do a "all time who's who" and list everyone and if they want to put a blurb on the page of there past contributions they can?
The only problem with this is, the page would list 600+ past and present contributors. And I would only guess that maybe 10% of this list would ever be completed.
I'm not suggesting you remove credit for corporate sponsors (Corel's contribution, in particular, I have long felt has been under appreciated by the larger community), but I'd think that all parties should be treated equally, and with perhaps a shorter blurb about their contributions.
Well I copied your section from your site :) As your the only company that has a page listing your past contributions. I'll trim it down some so your section doesn't take a full screen to fill.
Now add $1.48 to that $0.02, and you can get a cup of coffee...
Thanks! would you please pass the sugar? <g>
Tom
Cheers,
Jer
On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 14:25:26 -0400, Tom twickline@sitestar.net wrote:
Jeremy White wrote:
Hmm. I have several thoughts on this. First, I think that corporate sponsors get enough 'props'. While I appreciate the gesture, I'd rather the acknowledgements page highlight the many people who do good work for Wine without pay or other recompense.
Hello Jer,
But that would just be a copy of the who's who? http://www.winehq.org/site/who
Random thoughts..
1) Tom - you sent me a preview of an acknowledgement page a few months ago and I thought it was an excellent start. I have it laying around somewhere still.
2) Companies definitely need to be mentioned. Corporate sponsors _don't_ get enough props.
3) A quick glance at the AUTHORS file shows tons of names I don't recognize and some that I happen to recognize but I know their contributions were a line or two here and there. I think a decent guideline for an acknowledgement page is to scan wine-patches for the past 2 or 3 years and pick out anyone who submitted more than, say, 4 (or Insert-Favorite-Random-Number-Here) patches. I suspect it's smaller than you'd think. (cat the files together | grep From | uniq | sort -rn) From there, add in some folks who had contributions (Bertho Stultiens, et al). Finally put out a call for people to add themselves to care of any oversights. No, the end result won't be perfect but it's better than nothing.
4) Who's Who does need an update, and I can think of quite a few people who deserve to be on there. I'd encourage anyone who isn't on there to speak up and add themselves (patch to wine-patches, or email to me). The most likely for someone not being on there is simply an oversight on my part. Names that immediately come to mind include Rob Shearman, Robert Reif, and Filip Navara. There's probably a dozen more. The guideline for a Who's Who entry is shameless self-promotion.
5) On our FAQ page we say this: People and organizations who have given generous contributions of money, equipment, or licenses, include: David L. Harper Bob Hepple Mark A. Horton Kevin P. Lawton The Syntropy Institute James Woulfe
Pardon my ignorance, but I don't know any of these people. Maybe we should add them to that page but it might help to have an explanation of why.
-Brian
Brian Vincent wrote:
- Who's Who does need an update, and I can think of quite a few
people who deserve to be on there. I'd encourage anyone who isn't on there to speak up and add themselves (patch to wine-patches, or email to me). The most likely for someone not being on there is simply an oversight on my part. Names that immediately come to mind include Rob Shearman, Robert Reif, and Filip Navara. There's probably a dozen more. The guideline for a Who's Who entry is shameless self-promotion.
The problem with wine hackers is that they are too modest. They appreciate the publicity, but won't typically go looking for it. I think it would be best to call upon all wine hackers to think of names of people who deserve to be there and are not.
- On our FAQ page we say this:
People and organizations who have given generous contributions of money, equipment, or licenses, include: David L. Harper Bob Hepple Mark A. Horton Kevin P. Lawton The Syntropy Institute James Woulfe
Here's a question for you - should money contribution's credit expire? If someone donated 100$ some five years ago, should we still list them?
This is not about code contribution.
Shachar
Here's a question for you - should money contribution's credit expire? If someone donated 100$ some five years ago, should we still list them?
Another comment on this - - I have a list of names that have donated to Wine over the past 2 years - some folks quite generously - and yet I don't feel it's appropriate to publish their names without their permission.
I try, when I thank them, to ask if they want it to be an anonymous donation, or if they want credit, but I don't always succeed.
But I suspect if I dug around I could find a list of additional names to add there.
Cheers,
Jeremy
But I suspect if I dug around I could find a list of additional names to add there.
The list I have was from the old faq-o-matic way before the current faq. and from one of the pages that dimi use to have on his site. Donations to the MFC docs? and the money went to the wpf?
So should we list people or not?
I added the part :
Below is a short list of people who have given money to the wpf. If you have given money to this fund and would like to be included on this page just send a e-mail to wine-devel and ask for inclusion.
This way if someone wants to be addded they can simpley ask for inclusion. Do you want me to also add if your name is listed here and you would prefere not to be listed just send a e-mail and we will glady remove your name from this list.
If and when this page is ever done I was going to send a patch to remove the people from the faq as it would only be duplication.
Tom
Cheers,
Jeremy
Brian Vincent brian.vincent@gmail.com writes:
- On our FAQ page we say this:
People and organizations who have given generous contributions of money, equipment, or licenses, include: David L. Harper Bob Hepple Mark A. Horton Kevin P. Lawton The Syntropy Institute James Woulfe
Pardon my ignorance, but I don't know any of these people. Maybe we should add them to that page but it might help to have an explanation of why.
This dates from the very beginning of the project, when Bob Amstadt was in charge. I have no idea what these people have donated. They probably wouldn't get mortally offended if we were to drop their names from the FAQ...
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Tom