Google Summer of Code - Website maintenance

[Ed Mack]

Hello,

I'm terribly sorry if this is the wrong forum to ask my question, if it
is please redirect me :) But, I think I'm in the right from poking in
the archives.

Anyway, I'm really interested in maintaining the Wine site as per
http://www.winehq.org/site/contributing , and would love some more info
on the the responsibilities and aims.

I have pretty good knowledge of PHP, and enjoy web-design. I've worked
with MySQL, but not any of the other commercial databases. My little
homepage http://www.edmack.com has many little sites I've built up for
various games.

My day-to-day language is C++ (games development with openGL), although
I originally learnt C.

Thanks for your time,
Ed Mack

[Chris Morgan]

As a developer on http://appdb.winehq.org I'd like to say that we
could certainly use some help with the php that runs that site.  The
application database is an important resource to new and potential
wine users and will only become more important as we approach the 0.9
and 1.0 releases of wine.  There are several outstanding todo items of
reasonable size and I'm sure people on the mailing list can come up
with a few more.

Chris

On 6/2/05, Ed Mack  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm terribly sorry if this is the wrong forum to ask my question, if it
> is please redirect me :) But, I think I'm in the right from poking in
> the archives.
>
> Anyway, I'm really interested in maintaining the Wine site as per
> http://www.winehq.org/site/contributing , and would love some more info
> on the the responsibilities and aims.
>
> I have pretty good knowledge of PHP, and enjoy web-design. I've worked
> with MySQL, but not any of the other commercial databases. My little
> homepage http://www.edmack.com has many little sites I've built up for
> various games.
>
> My day-to-day language is C++ (games development with openGL), although
> I originally learnt C.
>
> Thanks for your time,
> Ed Mack

[Ed Mack]

On Thu, 2005-06-02 at 17:37 -0400, Chris Morgan wrote:
> As a developer on http://appdb.winehq.org I'd like to say that we
> could certainly use some help with the php that runs that site.  The
> application database is an important resource to new and potential
> wine users and will only become more important as we approach the 0.9
> and 1.0 releases of wine.  There are several outstanding todo items of
> reasonable size and I'm sure people on the mailing list can come up
> with a few more.
>
> Chris

I'm assuming you're referencing this TODO:
http://cvs.winehq.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/appdb/TODO?rev=1.20&content-type...

That sounds great. Are there any other aims that you would like me to
add to the project description? I'll of course wait for more feedback
before looking into the application.

Thanks,
Ed Mack

[Chris Morgan]

I wasn't thinking of any of the things on the current todo.  It could use to 
be updated.

One thing I've been thinking about lately is allowing maintainers to handle 
screenshot and version submissions for the applications they maintain.  The 
maintainer system has been a great success so far with over 150 applications 
maintained by users of the appdb.  These maintainers reply to forum postings 
for particular apps, edit and update application howto's and descriptions, 
and can add screenshots without appdb maintainer interaction.  This would 
take more load off of the highest level maintainers of the appdb who have to 
go through all screenshots and all new versions that have been submitted.  
Continuing this distribution of work to individual experts should let us 
provide more accurate and complete information.

Another task would be to overhaul the look and feel of the appdb.  It looks a 
bit clunky in areas and I think with some polish it would be more pleasing to 
the eye and easier to maintain the look and feel.

We are looking for anything that makes the appdb easier and simpler to use and 
makes administration and the data contained in it more timely and accurate.

Chris

On Thursday 02 June 2005 6:06 pm, Ed Mack wrote:
> On Thu, 2005-06-02 at 17:37 -0400, Chris Morgan wrote:
> > As a developer on http://appdb.winehq.org I'd like to say that we
> > could certainly use some help with the php that runs that site.  The
> > application database is an important resource to new and potential
> > wine users and will only become more important as we approach the 0.9
> > and 1.0 releases of wine.  There are several outstanding todo items of
> > reasonable size and I'm sure people on the mailing list can come up
> > with a few more.
> >
> > Chris
>
> I'm assuming you're referencing this TODO:
> http://cvs.winehq.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/appdb/TODO?rev=1.20&content-type...
> xt/plain
>
> That sounds great. Are there any other aims that you would like me to
> add to the project description? I'll of course wait for more feedback
> before looking into the application.
>
> Thanks,
> Ed Mack

[Ed Mack]

> We are looking for anything that makes the appdb easier and simpler to use and 
> makes administration and the data contained in it more timely and accurate.
>
> Chris

I just found out I'm not eligible to take part -Sorry. Without the
backing, I'll have to do something else over summer to raise uni-funds
ect.

Thanks for your help, and hopefully the scheme will run next year so
more people can take part :)

Ed Mack

[Mitchell Mebane]

Hi,

I would be interested in working on the AppDB. What skills exactly are 
you looking for?

--Mitchell Mebane

[Brian Vincent]

On 6/2/05, Ed Mack  wrote:
> Anyway, I'm really interested in maintaining the Wine site as per
> http://www.winehq.org/site/contributing , and would love some more info
> on the the responsibilities and aims.

My thought is that we're doing just fine on the web site. In fact, we should 
probably remove it from the "Contributing" page. Between Newman committing 
lostwages patches, me doing news, and a boatload of new stuff flowing to the 
Wiki, I think we're ok. Plus, Dimi got suckered^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H promoted 
into doing the doc maintenance. 
Another idea I had was regarding fonts. What do you guys think of having the 
task of creating some TrueType fonts? A lot more projects besides Wine would 
benefit and it's something that could be done with no coding skills. (Can 
you tell it bugs me every time I download the Core Fonts?) If that was 
deemed reasonable, we'd have to figure out what fonts should be tackled 
first. Maybe Arial? The to-do list would look like:
1. Figure out if tracing glyphs is legal. If not, find some TTF fonts 
someone is willing to relicense.
2. Trace glyphs or relicense fonts.
3. Import new glyphs into fontforge.

It's deceptively simple.

-Brian

[Dimi Paun]

On Thu, 2005-06-02 at 16:11 -0600, Brian Vincent wrote:
> My thought is that we're doing just fine on the web site.  In fact, we
> should probably remove it from the "Contributing" page.

Agreed. Can you send a patch to do just that?
> Another idea I had was regarding fonts.  What do you guys think of
> having the task of creating some TrueType fonts?

Let's list it there. It is a lot of work, and maybe not Wine related,
but lets see if anyone comes out of the woodwork...

[Brian Vincent]

On 6/2/05, Dimi Paun  wrote:
> On Thu, 2005-06-02 at 16:11 -0600, Brian Vincent wrote:
> > My thought is that we're doing just fine on the web site. In fact, we
> > should probably remove it from the "Contributing" page.
>
> Agreed. Can you send a patch to do just that?

Patch submitted, waiting to be modded on.
> Another idea I had was regarding fonts. What do you guys think of
> > having the task of creating some TrueType fonts?
>
> Let's list it there. It is a lot of work, and maybe not Wine related,
> but lets see if anyone comes out of the woodwork...

New wiki page:
http://wiki.winehq.org/CreateFonts
-Brian