I know, when I wrote Winetricks, I meant it as a developers' tool only. But... then... people started using it, and it made sense to provide it as a way to download missing visual C++ runtimes etc. for average users.
Quite a few newbies trip over the fact that it needs cabextract installed. Let's make it easy for folks, actually package it up along with Wine (SuSE does this already), and put it in the Wine menu right beneath "Uninstall Windows Software".
What do people think? It might make life easier for a lot of folks.
(And, come to think of it, we should include some documentation in that menu. "man wine" just doesn't cut it for the average gui user, and "wine manual page" in the gnome help browser is a broken link. But that's a separate issue.) - Dan
How about help in a .chm file :)
--- On Sat, 14/2/09, Dan Kegel dank@kegel.com wrote:
From: Dan Kegel dank@kegel.com Subject: Proposal: put Winetricks into Wine menu To: "wine-devel@winehq.org" wine-devel@winehq.org Received: Saturday, 14 February, 2009, 4:42 PM I know, when I wrote Winetricks, I meant it as a developers' tool only. But... then... people started using it, and it made sense to provide it as a way to download missing visual C++ runtimes etc. for average users.
Quite a few newbies trip over the fact that it needs cabextract installed. Let's make it easy for folks, actually package it up along with Wine (SuSE does this already), and put it in the Wine menu right beneath "Uninstall Windows Software".
What do people think? It might make life easier for a lot of folks.
(And, come to think of it, we should include some documentation in that menu. "man wine" just doesn't cut it for the average gui user, and "wine manual page" in the gnome help browser is a broken link. But that's a separate issue.)
- Dan
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Dan Kegel wrote:
I know, when I wrote Winetricks, I meant it as a developers' tool only. But... then... people started using it, and it made sense to provide it as a way to download missing visual C++ runtimes etc. for average users.
Quite a few newbies trip over the fact that it needs cabextract installed. Let's make it easy for folks, actually package it up along with Wine (SuSE does this already), and put it in the Wine menu right beneath "Uninstall Windows Software".
What do people think? It might make life easier for a lot of folks.
I want to cut down on the number of items in the menu as it is - winecfg will be integrated into a System -> Preferences -> Windows Applications menu, browse C:\ drive will be in Places, and uninstall would go into Applications->Add/Remove.
Once that's done, leaving winetricks in the menu would be out of place. Though maybe it could go into the same System -> Preferences -> Windows
(And, come to think of it, we should include some documentation in that menu. "man wine" just doesn't cut it for the average gui user, and "wine manual page" in the gnome help browser is a broken link. But that's a separate issue.)
- Dan
There's already a help feature in the distribution right next to the menu - we should provide documentation there and avoid clutter.
Thanks, Scott Ritchie
On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Scott Ritchie scott@open-vote.org wrote:
I want to cut down on the number of items in the menu as it is - winecfg will be integrated into a System -> Preferences -> Windows Applications menu, browse C:\ drive will be in Places, and uninstall would go into Applications->Add/Remove.
Putting uninstall into Add/Remove will be an interesting bit of integration; you'd have to modify the Add/Remove app quite a bit, I think.
Once that's done, leaving winetricks in the menu would be out of place. Though maybe it could go into the same System -> Preferences -> Windows
But it's not a preferences; it's an add/remove kind of thing, so maybe it too should go into Add/Remove?
Anyway, in the meantime, can you add it into the Wine menu for this release, and sort out where it really belongs later? It really is a missing piece, and having all the Wine stuff together in one menu entry is arguably a nice way to group it, at least for now.
Thanks, Dan
Dan Kegel wrote:
On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Scott Ritchie scott@open-vote.org wrote:
I want to cut down on the number of items in the menu as it is - winecfg will be integrated into a System -> Preferences -> Windows Applications menu, browse C:\ drive will be in Places, and uninstall would go into Applications->Add/Remove.
Putting uninstall into Add/Remove will be an interesting bit of integration; you'd have to modify the Add/Remove app quite a bit, I think.
Not too much. Others have been kind enough to write command line applications as front-ends to uninstallation already.
Once that's done, leaving winetricks in the menu would be out of place. Though maybe it could go into the same System -> Preferences -> Windows
But it's not a preferences; it's an add/remove kind of thing, so maybe it too should go into Add/Remove?
Actually that's not a bad point. That would require some hacking though (though perhaps not too much, since winetricks is also command line driven).
Anyway, in the meantime, can you add it into the Wine menu for this release, and sort out where it really belongs later? It really is a missing piece, and having all the Wine stuff together in one menu entry is arguably a nice way to group it, at least for now.
Agreed.
Thanks, Scott Ritchie
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