Request for help with running Unreal ED 3.0 in Wine (from developer Running With Scissors)
Greetings everyone,
I work as a project manager and developer for Running with Scissors. We have a game called POSTAL 2 that natively supports Linux and runs on the Unreal 2 engine, and includes modding Steam workshop features. Sadly, the Level editor (based on UnrealED 3.0) is not supported in Linux, and rewriting it to support it natively is out of the question.
However, when running the Windows build under Wine, almost everything works perfectly, including navigating the viewports and rebuilding the maps. It’s so close to being perfectly usable as a level editor, with one major caveat - not being able to select actors or surfaces by clicking or access their right click menus to add actors. It is possible select actors with marquee select in the orthographic views, and you are able to add static meshes to a level via the Insert button in the Static Mesh browser. The texture browser also has issues with selection which can be worked around by increasing the size in the View menu. It run a bit slow but well enough for practical use (20 FPS in the viewports on bigger maps on a 2.8ghz CPU).
There is a log on the WineHQ database regarding this here which focuses on the UT2004 editor, but the problems are much the same.
https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=4638
Reason I'm interested in this is because, with that one thing fixed, we could use a Wine wrapper and put the SDK up for Linux on Steam and elsewhere. We'd even have it so it hands off to the native Linux version of the game when testing the map from the editor. It would be quite a thing to be one of the few games with a full SDK for Linux on Steam. No one is maintaining this it seems in WineHQ, but there is a a least a chance the fix it needs may not be too hard to work out, so I'm hoping to find someone that's willing to see if they can fix this (and any other problems we come across in QA).
Thank you for your time in reading this,
Jon
Update: here's the relevant wine bug report for the main issue: [ https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37180]
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Jon M jonm@gopostal.com wrote:
Greetings everyone,
I work as a project manager and developer for Running with Scissors. We have a game called POSTAL 2 that natively supports Linux and runs on the Unreal 2 engine, and includes modding Steam workshop features. Sadly, the Level editor (based on UnrealED 3.0) is not supported in Linux, and rewriting it to support it natively is out of the question.
However, when running the Windows build under Wine, almost everything works perfectly, including navigating the viewports and rebuilding the maps. It’s so close to being perfectly usable as a level editor, with one major caveat - not being able to select actors or surfaces by clicking or access their right click menus to add actors. It is possible select actors with marquee select in the orthographic views, and you are able to add static meshes to a level via the Insert button in the Static Mesh browser. The texture browser also has issues with selection which can be worked around by increasing the size in the View menu. It run a bit slow but well enough for practical use (20 FPS in the viewports on bigger maps on a 2.8ghz CPU).
There is a log on the WineHQ database regarding this here which focuses on the UT2004 editor, but the problems are much the same.
https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=4638
Reason I'm interested in this is because, with that one thing fixed, we could use a Wine wrapper and put the SDK up for Linux on Steam and elsewhere. We'd even have it so it hands off to the native Linux version of the game when testing the map from the editor. It would be quite a thing to be one of the few games with a full SDK for Linux on Steam. No one is maintaining this it seems in WineHQ, but there is a a least a chance the fix it needs may not be too hard to work out, so I'm hoping to find someone that's willing to see if they can fix this (and any other problems we come across in QA).
Thank you for your time in reading this,
Jon
Am 17.08.2015 um 15:37 schrieb Jon M jonm@gopostal.com:
It’s so close to being perfectly usable as a level editor, with one major caveat - not being able to select actors or surfaces by clicking or access their right click menus to add actors. It is possible select actors with marquee select in the orthographic views, and you are able to add static meshes to a level via the Insert button in the Static Mesh browser. The texture browser also has issues with selection which can be worked around by increasing the size in the View menu.
It's difficult to say what's wrong from that description. I suspect it's a user32 input handling problem, though maybe the mouse click is read right and the editor can't find out which 3D object you hit with your click.
Can I download the editor for free, or you I need to buy a version of UT 3 and/or some SDK license?
Cheers, Stefan
Hi Stephen,
Many thanks for the reply! I can get you a Steam key for POSTAL 2 which includes the SDK under the tools tab, or I can simply get you a zip file with it included. Let me know what works best for you.
Best,
Jon On 17 Aug 2015 16:55, "Stefan Dösinger" stefandoesinger@gmail.com wrote:
Am 17.08.2015 um 15:37 schrieb Jon M jonm@gopostal.com:
It’s so close to being perfectly usable as a level editor, with one
major caveat - not being able to select actors or surfaces by clicking or access their right click menus to add actors. It is possible select actors with marquee select in the orthographic views, and you are able to add static meshes to a level via the Insert button in the Static Mesh browser. The texture browser also has issues with selection which can be worked around by increasing the size in the View menu. It's difficult to say what's wrong from that description. I suspect it's a user32 input handling problem, though maybe the mouse click is read right and the editor can't find out which 3D object you hit with your click.
Can I download the editor for free, or you I need to buy a version of UT 3 and/or some SDK license?
Cheers, Stefan
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