I have begun some cleanup of the website, starting with the most popular pages. In particular, the about page: http://www.winehq.org/about/
The text is much easier to read for a newcomer to get a general overview of the project. On a wide browser window, however, it looks very horizontal -- this is fixable with a good picture on the right side of the screen, however I don't have one ready yet. It's kind of hard to capture what Wine is about for a typical user in a single picture, but I think it may be doable.
Regardless, for users who want more information, the About page now directly links to 4 separate wiki articles: - Why Wine is so important - Common Myths about Wine - History of the Wine Project - Organization and Leadership
I'll be personally giving each of these an edit over the coming weeks, however help is of course appreciated - that's why it's in the wiki. The last article, in particular, needs to be essentially written from scratch.
Thanks for your help, especially Newman for committing my patches ;)
Thanks, Scott Ritchie
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009, Scott Ritchie wrote:
I have begun some cleanup of the website, starting with the most popular pages. In particular, the about page: http://www.winehq.org/about/
The text is much easier to read for a newcomer to get a general overview of the project.
Actually I got the page in French (which is good) so I don't know if I got the latest version. But I did not find a way to switch the language on the page (I could reconfigure the browser but that's not reasonable to expect). So this raises two questions:
* What's the right way to handle out of date translation? Ignore the translation if it's older than the English file? Consider each language to be completely independent from the others? (i.e. they are not translations of each other but independently developped texts and thus cannot be 'out of date'; a bit like the Wikipedia articles)
* Shouldn't we have a way to switch between languages?
Also, the link to the next page still says 'Wine's History: Next' instead of 'L'historique de Wine: Suivant'. So maybe links are not localizable? (it could also be that the translation is missing)
2009/8/4 Francois Gouget fgouget@free.fr:
* Shouldn't we have a way to switch between languages?
Hi François,
You can switch between languages on home page. Link "Français (Changez la langue)" (which IMHO should be Changer la langue) is below the left blank square. It could be a good idea to duplicate this possibility on every pages.
Francois Gouget wrote:
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009, Scott Ritchie wrote:
I have begun some cleanup of the website, starting with the most popular pages. In particular, the about page: http://www.winehq.org/about/
The text is much easier to read for a newcomer to get a general overview of the project.
Actually I got the page in French (which is good) so I don't know if I got the latest version. But I did not find a way to switch the language on the page (I could reconfigure the browser but that's not reasonable to expect). So this raises two questions:
- What's the right way to handle out of date translation? Ignore the translation if it's older than the English file? Consider each language to be completely independent from the others? (i.e. they are not translations of each other but independently developped texts and thus cannot be 'out of date'; a bit like the Wikipedia articles)
Since from what I can tell the non-english content on the site is still more or less direct translations it would be nice to at least notify translators when they're out of date. If they think the text they have is still better then that's fine.
Thanks, Scott Ritchie
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Francois Gougetfgouget@free.fr wrote:
* What's the right way to handle out of date translation? Ignore the translation if it's older than the English file? Consider each language to be completely independent from the others? (i.e. they are not translations of each other but independently developped texts and thus cannot be 'out of date'; a bit like the Wikipedia articles)
IMO if the translation is out-of-date, a "warning box" should be displayed, but the original translation should remain (better than nothing after all)
On 4 Aug 2009, at 10:42, Francois Gouget wrote:
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009, Scott Ritchie wrote:
I have begun some cleanup of the website, starting with the most popular pages. In particular, the about page: http://www.winehq.org/about/
The text is much easier to read for a newcomer to get a general overview of the project.
Actually I got the page in French (which is good) so I don't know if I got the latest version. But I did not find a way to switch the language on the page (I could reconfigure the browser but that's not reasonable to expect). So this raises two questions:
Someone else already answered that the link to switch languages is on the main winehq.org page.
However, I'd like to suggest that the current language is not handled via a cookie but rather as part of the URL. That would make it possible for external sites to link to the right language and also google would be able to find these other languages. If I configure google to only return results in German and search for Wine I get German Wikipedia entries as a result but not a link to winehq.org in German. At least not on the first results page.
- Shouldn't we have a way to switch between languages?
Also, the link to the next page still says 'Wine's History: Next' instead of 'L'historique de Wine: Suivant'. So maybe links are not localizable? (it could also be that the translation is missing)
That's just a missing translation.
Cheers, -Maik
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