Running Wine under MS SFU under Wine ... ?

[Dan Kegel]

I recently posted with problems running Microsoft's
Services for Unix under Wine.  I only tried it out
of morbid curiosity, actually, and because MS was
offering it for free.  The free offer expired, but
it's back again for a little while; slashdot.org
seems to be running banner ads for it.  I'd encourage
any of you who even *might* be tempted to try this
out to go order the CD-ROM.  It would be way bitchin'
cool if we could nest Wine and MS SFU (I seem to recall
we can't nest Wine in Cygwin for some technical reason,
but who knows, maybe SFU won't have the same problem).
- Dan

[Gregory M. Turner]

On Sunday 14 December 2003 09:02 pm, Dan Kegel wrote:
> I recently posted with problems running Microsoft's
> Services for Unix under Wine.  I only tried it out
> of morbid curiosity, actually, and because MS was
> offering it for free.  The free offer expired, but
> it's back again for a little while; slashdot.org
> seems to be running banner ads for it.  I'd encourage
> any of you who even *might* be tempted to try this
> out to go order the CD-ROM.  It would be way bitchin'
> cool if we could nest Wine and MS SFU (I seem to recall
> we can't nest Wine in Cygwin for some technical reason,
> but who knows, maybe SFU won't have the same problem).
> - Dan

Don't get your hopes up; they are nothing to write home about.

[Gregory M. Turner]

On Sunday 14 December 2003 10:05 pm, I wrote:
> On Sunday 14 December 2003 09:02 pm, Dan Kegel wrote:
> > I recently posted with problems running Microsoft's
> > Services for Unix under Wine.  I only tried it out
> > of morbid curiosity, actually, and because MS was
> > offering it for free.  The free offer expired, but
> > it's back again for a little while; slashdot.org
> > seems to be running banner ads for it.  I'd encourage
> > any of you who even *might* be tempted to try this
> > out to go order the CD-ROM.  It would be way bitchin'
> > cool if we could nest Wine and MS SFU (I seem to recall
> > we can't nest Wine in Cygwin for some technical reason,
> > but who knows, maybe SFU won't have the same problem).
> > - Dan
>
> Don't get your hopes up; they are nothing to write home about.

Perhaps I spoke too soon, although when I evaluated this long ago, it was 
probably true.  MS has acquired (license to?) Interix and SFU3.5 is based on 
it; it is now available for download from Microsoft for free, I do not think 
it's supposed to be a limited-time offer this time.

I recently learned that SFU (3.5, at least) is actually a Windows "subsystem," 
which supposedly should mean that it is not a compatibility layer like cygwin 
implemented on top of the Windows API.  Could be fun, I definitely will give 
it a whorl presently...

[Steven Edwards]

Hello Greg,
--- "Gregory M. Turner"  wrote:
> I recently learned that SFU (3.5, at least) is actually a Windows
> "subsystem," 
> which supposedly should mean that it is not a compatibility layer
> like cygwin 
> implemented on top of the Windows API.  Could be fun, I definitely
> will give 
> it a whorl presently...

I attempted a port of WINE to SFU a while back and it should work as
well as the Cygwin port would once we get Get/SetThreadContext
supported implemented for the Cygwin case. There were some issues I had
at the time getting configure running with ksh and then with conflicing
types in msvcrt. All in all there were no major showstoppers except the
same problems as the Cygwin port which is time.......

Thanks
Steven

PS. OpenNT the first incarnation of SFU/Interix was based on Cygwin.

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