I dont normally top post ;^) but this time it makes sense to. This (replied to) email is not archived in the Piper Mail archive correctly although it looks fine here. In the pipermail archive there is only a pgp signature. This is not the first time I have seen this, it seems that Piper Mail grabs the pgp signature and does not archive the patch which makes the archive less usefull. If you ask me this is what I would call a bug in pipermail.
http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-patches/2006-January/023490.html
Between this bug and the lack of dates in the archive I really getting to despise pipermail. So... I went looking at the alternative and thought of GMANE and it turns out that this patch is not archived there at all. In fact the last patch by Jonathan Ernst that was archived by GMANE is 2005-12-19 16:28:02 GMT and I know that there are more after that date.
http://search.gmane.org/?query=&email=Jonathan+Ernst&group=gmane.com...
So now I'm really starting to get upset because we have no reliable archive and that just sucks. Has anyone got any ideas on how to fix this.
--
Tony Lambregts
Jonathan Ernst wrote:
Le dimanche 15 janvier 2006 à 07:40 -0800, Dan Kegel a écrit :
On 1/15/06, Ge van Geldorp gvg@reactos.org wrote:
The Mozilla ActiveX control download feature is cool and all, but until we repackage the sucker to include MSVCP60.DLL to fix http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4064 ... I could have sworn I saw somebody post a note saying they had done said repackaging, but I can't find it now...
http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-patches/2005-December/022795.html Instructions on how to repackage can be found at svn://svn.reactos.org/trunk/tools/MozillaControl/
Thanks! I've updated bug 4064. Now can somebody update winehq.org's copy of the control so we can close that bug?
- Dan
-- Wine for Windows ISVs: http://kegel.com/wine/isv
Le lundi 16 janvier 2006 à 14:30 +0100, Filip Navara a écrit :
Jonathan Ernst wrote:
// Exact size of the file: $iFileSize = 4771240;
Shouldn't you change the file size too?
- Filip
Sure, thanks for spotting it ;-)
Changelog:
- use repackaged Mozilla ActiveX control from ReactOS
Index: mozactivex.php
RCS file: /home/wine/tools/mozactivex.php,v retrieving revision 1.1 diff -u -p -r1.1 mozactivex.php --- mozactivex.php 19 Oct 2005 16:17:09 -0000 1.1 +++ mozactivex.php 16 Jan 2006 14:02:33 -0000 @@ -14,31 +14,27 @@
// Name of the file -$sFileName = "MozillaControl1712.exe"; +$sFileName = "MozillaControl1712-ReactOS.exe";
// Exact size of the file: -$iFileSize = 4771240; +$iFileSize = 4735160;
// List of locations -$aList = array("http://www.iol.ie/~locka/mozilla/",
"http://osdn.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/wine/","http://nchc.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/wine/","http://easynews.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/wine/","http://mesh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/wine/","http://puzzle.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/wine/","http://citkit.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/wine/","http://umn.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/wine/","http://cogent.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/wine/","http://jaist.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/wine/","http://surfnet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/wine/","http://peterhost.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/wine/","http://ufpr.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/wine/","http://optusnet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/wine/","http://keihanna.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/wine/","http://heanet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/wine/","http://switch.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/wine/","http://internap.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/wine/","http://ovh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/wine/"+$aList = array("http://switch.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/reactos/",
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Tony Lambregts wrote:
...
Between this bug and the lack of dates in the archive I really getting to despise pipermail. So... I went looking at the alternative and thought of GMANE and it turns out that this patch is not archived there at all. In fact the last patch by Jonathan Ernst that was archived by GMANE is 2005-12-19 16:28:02 GMT and I know that there are more after that date.
http://search.gmane.org/?query=&email=Jonathan+Ernst&group=gmane.com...
So now I'm really starting to get upset because we have no reliable archive and that just sucks. Has anyone got any ideas on how to fix this.
...
Tony,
Please try the Nabble archive of the Wine lists: http://www.nabble.com/Wine-f924.html - The is the parent Wine archive that combines all the Devel, Users, Patches, Bugs into a single place.
With regard to the latest patch post by "Jonathan Ernst", Nabble shows it should be Jan 16, 2006. http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-Repackaging-Mozilla-ActiveX-control-to-include-M...
You can simply click the user name link in the thread. That will show you all the posts by a user. To narrow it down, you can click the dropdown box (located at the top) from "All Dates" to "Past Month", then search again. Also, you can narrow it down by forums (located to the right) to narrow down to the "Wine - Patches" archive.
Nabble is a new project trying to improve online discussions. It archives all the post up to the minute. Hope this helps.
Will L Nabble.com
-- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Repackaging-Mozilla-ActiveX-control-to-include-MSVCP60... Sent from the Wine - Devel forum at Nabble.com.
Will L (sent by Nabble.com) wrote:
Tony Lambregts wrote: ... Between this bug and the lack of dates in the archive I really getting to despise pipermail. So... I went looking at the alternative and thought of GMANE and it turns out that this patch is not archived there at all. In fact the last patch by Jonathan Ernst that was archived by GMANE is 2005-12-19 16:28:02 GMT and I know that there are more after that date. http://search.gmane.org/?query=&email=Jonathan+Ernst&group=gmane.comp.emulators.wine.patches&sort=date&DEFAULTOP=and&xFILTERS=Gcomp.emulators.wine.patches-Ajonathan+ernst---A <http://search.gmane.org/?query=&email=Jonathan+Ernst&group=gmane.comp.emulators.wine.patches&sort=date&DEFAULTOP=and&xFILTERS=Gcomp.emulators.wine.patches-Ajonathan+ernst---A> So now I'm really starting to get upset because we have no reliable archive and that just sucks. Has anyone got any ideas on how to fix this. ...Tony,
Please try the Nabble archive of the Wine lists: http://www.nabble.com/Wine-f924.html - The is the parent Wine archive that combines all the Devel, Users, Patches, Bugs into a single place.
With regard to the latest patch post by "Jonathan Ernst", Nabble shows it should be Jan 16, 2006. http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-Repackaging-Mozilla-ActiveX-control-to-include-M...
You can simply click the user name link in the thread. That will show you all the posts by a user. To narrow it down, you can click the dropdown box (located at the top) from "All Dates" to "Past Month", then search again. Also, you can narrow it down by forums (located to the right) to narrow down to the "Wine - Patches" archive.
Nabble is a new project trying to improve online discussions. It archives all the post up to the minute. Hope this helps.
Thank you for trying but unfortunately it does not help, it does not have the patch either. ;^(
From the link... --8<--- Changelog: - use repackaged Mozilla ActiveX control from ReactOS
[attachment removed][attachment removed] --8<---
So any one else have ideas..
--
Tony Lambregts
Tony Lambregts wrote:
http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-patches/2006-January/023490.html
Looks odd with all the MIME in there.
So... I went looking at the alternative and thought of GMANE and it turns out that this patch is not archived there at all.
GMANE snips stuff with X-No-Archive set - just offering pointers.
[snip body of email from Jonathan Ernst]
Would you mind posting the entire email, including headers etc., as an attachment? I'd like to take a look at it too but I'm not subscribed to wine-patches =).
Molle Bestefich wrote:
Tony Lambregts wrote:
http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-patches/2006-January/023490.html
Looks odd with all the MIME in there.
So... I went looking at the alternative and thought of GMANE and it turns out that this patch is not archived there at all.
GMANE snips stuff with X-No-Archive set - just offering pointers.
[snip body of email from Jonathan Ernst]
Would you mind posting the entire email, including headers etc., as an attachment? I'd like to take a look at it too but I'm not subscribed to wine-patches =).
attached is the message source that I got throught gmane news server. (I do not get emails from wine patches even though I am subscribed...)
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Le dimanche 15 janvier 2006 =C3=A0 07:40 -0800, Dan Kegel a =C3=A9crit :
On 1/15/06, Ge van Geldorp gvg@reactos.org wrote:
The Mozilla ActiveX control download feature is cool and all, but until we repackage the sucker to include MSVCP60.DLL to fix http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D4064 ... I could have sworn I saw somebody post a note saying they had done said repackaging, but I can't find it now...
http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-patches/2005-December/022795.html Instructions on how to repackage can be found at svn://svn.reactos.org/trunk/tools/MozillaControl/
=20 Thanks! I've updated bug 4064. Now can somebody update winehq.org's copy of the control so we can close that bug?
- Dan
=20
Wine for Windows ISVs: http://kegel.com/wine/isv =20 =20 =20
Le lundi 16 janvier 2006 =C3=A0 14:30 +0100, Filip Navara a =C3=A9crit :=20
Jonathan Ernst wrote: =20
// Exact size of the file: $iFileSize =3D 4771240;
Shouldn't you change the file size too? =20
- Filip
=20
Sure, thanks for spotting it ;-)
Changelog: - use repackaged Mozilla ActiveX control from ReactOS
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Tony Lambregts wrote:
attached is the message source that I got throught gmane news server.
Thanks. gmail seems to like to ruin line endings as much as Outlook does, so I've attached my reply to preserve the fine ASCII art :-).
Please take a look...
(I do not get emails from wine patches even though I am subscribed...)
Oh, ok.
Molle Bestefich wrote:
Tony Lambregts wrote:
attached is the message source that I got throught gmane news server.
Thanks. gmail seems to like to ruin line endings as much as Outlook does, so I've attached my reply to preserve the fine ASCII art :-).
Please take a look...
(I do not get emails from wine patches even though I am subscribed...)
Oh, ok.
Mime-Version: 1.0
Looks odd, usually it's "MIME-Version". Not that it should matter. And it could be gmane that's altering it.
Archived-At: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.emulators.wine.patches/21235
Which means that it's also available at: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.emulators.wine.patches/21235
I missed that, cool.. it archived it with a .bin extention even though I could open it in gedit fine.
Now the question remains (now that we know it is archived) how do would one actually find it
As a matter of fact I could not find any reference to your post or mine in this thread
http://search.gmane.org/?query=&email=tony.lambregts%40gmail.com&gro...
Something to talk to Gmane about?
So it's not really missing from gmane, or?
Anyway, the MIME structure of the email is:
body: multipart/mixed | +-- multipart/signed | | | +-- multipart/mixed | | | | | +-- text/plain (Jonathan's mail) | | | | | +-- text/x-patch [attachment] (Jonathan's patch) | | | +-- section: application/pgp-signature (Jonathan's pgp sig) | +-- text/plain (blank text/plain?!)
So looking at the inner multipart/mixed, it contains a "text/plain" which is Jonathan's bread text, and a "text/x-patch" with an attachment flag, which is obviously his attachment.
But if you take a look at the outer multipart/mixed, there's a multipart/signed and then there's a completely blank text/plain section:
--===============0121623449== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
--===============0121623449==--
Which makes no sense to me at all.
If I were writing a mail parser, I'd have serious trouble choosing what to do with this kind of c... too :-).
I think I'd choose to merge all the text/plain sections (without attachment flags) into a single entity and consider that the bread text.
Pipermail seems to choose to pick the first text/plain section, the outer one (which happens to be empty) and just use that. And then scrub that other multipart/signed part, who needs that anyway. Right?
Is it Jonathan's mailer or gmane that does this???
At this point I am happy that it is archived somewhere at least.
Tony Lambregts wrote:
Now the question remains (now that we know it is archived) how do would one actually find it
I'm leaving now, but I'll check this out later. If I remember :-).
If I were writing a mail parser, I'd have serious trouble choosing what to do with this kind of c... too :-).
I think I'd choose to merge all the text/plain sections (without attachment flags) into a single entity and consider that the bread text.
Pipermail seems to choose to pick the first text/plain section, the outer one (which happens to be empty) and just use that. And then scrub that other multipart/signed part, who needs that anyway.
Is it Jonathan's mailer or gmane that does this???
I assume it's Jonathan's mailer, since I can't find any good reasons why gmane would do this.
Jonathan, what software do you use, if you don't mind revealing? :-)
Le samedi 28 janvier 2006 à 21:07 +0000, Molle Bestefich a écrit :
Tony Lambregts wrote:
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Is it Jonathan's mailer or gmane that does this???
I assume it's Jonathan's mailer, since I can't find any good reasons why gmane would do this.
Jonathan, what software do you use, if you don't mind revealing? :-)
It's Evolution 2.4.2.1, pretty good e-mail client if you ask me.
Jonathan Ernst wrote:
Le samedi 28 janvier 2006 à 21:07 +0000, Molle Bestefich a écrit :
Jonathan, what software do you use, if you don't mind revealing? :-)
It's Evolution 2.4.2.1, pretty good e-mail client if you ask me.
I'll agree that the GUI is pretty good. The MIME assembly lacks somewhat :-).
And for some odd reason Gmail's aggregation feature doesn't like your mails either - the same email always shows up twice for me. I wonder.
Am Sonntag, den 29.01.2006, 14:08 +0100 schrieb Jonathan Ernst:
Jonathan, what software do you use, if you don't mind revealing? :-)
It's Evolution 2.4.2.1, pretty good e-mail client if you ask me.
Evolution 2.2.1.1 here and i had a similar problem with my Patches: I used UTF-8 in as the prefered Encoding in the Editor.
The attachment is encoded as 7-Bit, but Evolution is unable to drop the charset UTF-8 in the Header down to 7-Bit ASCII. => The mail arrived to some People as binary.
I switched back to ISO8859-15.
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