Wine has two bugs filed for this also: http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10495 http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10910 I am worried that everyone (WINE, ALSA, Pulse, Ubuntu) is not on the same page. Will try cross-posting bug information. Part of the problem seems to be that the most-missed application is Skype, and some are trying to get away with blaming closed-source issues. Tom -- I should include the link to your patch, yes, so that other developers have access to it? Susan Dan -- What do you think? Good idea?
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From: Tomas Carnecky tom@dbservice.com Sent: Mar 18, 2008 5:14 PM To: Susan Cragin susancragin@earthlink.net Cc: wine-devel@winehq.org Subject: Re: Hardy Heron -- Pulseaudio interferes with non-gnome audio
Susan Cragin wrote:
The new default pulseaudio in Hardy screws up every program that isn't gnome, delivering terrible sound. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/198453
Applications that use ALSA should work fine with the alsa pulse plugin - should. Unfortunately the plugin has a few bugs, and the developers (of both pulseaudio and alsa) have been unresponsive in this matter. See
Question -- what does WINE do with pulseaudio?
Some suggested to create a native PulseAudio wine driver. That would yield the best results as far as the performance and reliability goes. Unfortunately we'll be stuck with the alsa driver for some time to come, so I tried to do the best to make the alsa pulse plugin to work with wine. I had to patch both the wine alsa driver as well as the alsa pulse plugin and it worked fine for my taste.
I submitted the patch to wine-patches: http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-patches/2008-February/050561.html
I don't know if the relevant alsa pulse plugin patch is publicly available, I haven't looked at that matter in a long time. Some of the needed patches are probably still in my local repositories. It makes no sense for me to work on this anymore until the developers respond to my questions.
I heard that the skype developers are very interested in getting skype working with pulseaudio, even helped tisting some patches. I have gotten skype to work with pulseaudio, I think if you apply the second patch attached to alsa bug #2601 skype will work. I haven't looked at the code since because apparently nobody from the alsa team is interested in fixing the bug.
tom
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 6:03 AM, Susan Cragin susancragin@earthlink.net wrote:
Wine has two bugs filed for this also: http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10495 http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10910 I am worried that everyone (WINE, ALSA, Pulse, Ubuntu) is not on the same page. Will try cross-posting bug information. Part of the problem seems to be that the most-missed application is Skype, and some are trying to get away with blaming closed-source issues. Tom -- I should include the link to your patch, yes, so that other developers have access to it? Susan Dan -- What do you think? Good idea?
Could be that a wiki page is the best way to provide a central rallying point between two projects on an issue like this.
Really, though, the answer is for Wine to have a native pulse audio driver. Maarten said he met somebody in IRC who is almost done with one. I do wish he would decloak... - Dan
"Dan Kegel" dank@kegel.com writes:
Could be that a wiki page is the best way to provide a central rallying point between two projects on an issue like this.
Really, though, the answer is for Wine to have a native pulse audio driver.
No, the right answer is to make the Alsa driver work right. We need to stop rushing out to write a new driver every time there's a problem with an existing one, all it leads to is more broken drivers.