Im kinda new to Wine, and I hope to get into very much, however I had one question which im sure everyone has heard alot of. Is there any way to run WINE on mac OS X being that it is based on FreeBSD. I have played around with the mac's and have gotten several linux programs to run, however i haven't tried wine yet. I do no that os X comes with many development tools that could possible be used for porting an app, but then again i am new at this so im not sure. Any information on this would be greatly appreciated.
--- David Suarez david@suave.2y.net wrote:
Im kinda new to Wine, and I hope to get into very much, however I had one question which im sure everyone has heard alot of. Is there any way to run WINE on mac OS X being that it is based on FreeBSD. I have played around with the mac's and have gotten several linux programs to run, however i haven't tried wine yet. I do no that os X comes with many development tools that could possible be used for porting an app, but then again i am new at this so im not sure. Any information on this would be greatly appreciated.
The problem is - OS X runs on PowerPC processors architecture, but Window programs are compiled for x86 processors. However, it is possible to port Winelib to OS X. For details see: http://bugs.winehq.com/show_bug.cgi?id=44
Andriy
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On Monday 26 August 2002 11:45 am, David Suarez wrote:
Im kinda new to Wine, and I hope to get into very much, however I had one question which im sure everyone has heard alot of. Is there any way to run WINE on mac OS X being that it is based on FreeBSD. I have played around with the mac's and have gotten several linux programs to run, however i haven't tried wine yet. I do no that os X comes with many development tools that could possible be used for porting an app, but then again i am new at this so im not sure. Any information on this would be greatly appreciated.
The only way that wine would be able to run on OS X is if: a) OS X gets ported to x86 b) Wine includes an x86 emulator and gets nearly re-written. Both have about an equal chance of happening. Read the docs at winehq.com for more information.
b) Wine includes an x86 emulator and gets nearly re-written.
Well, the 'nearly gets re-written' is maybe a little bit exagerated.... Winelib already works on PPC (or at least Marcus is trying to get it to work). That is already a first step :-) After, there are a lot of tricky stuff to do, but no big rewrite (well, except in the core DLLs like Kernel and the server).
I wonder if anybody ever started a 'bug' or 'task' on Bugzilla to write down everything that would be needed to support Wine + emulation.
Lionel
On Mon, Aug 26, 2002 at 09:27:56PM +0200, Lionel Ulmer wrote:
b) Wine includes an x86 emulator and gets nearly re-written.
Well, the 'nearly gets re-written' is maybe a little bit exagerated.... Winelib already works on PPC (or at least Marcus is trying to get it to work). That is already a first step :-) After, there are a lot of tricky stuff to do, but no big rewrite (well, except in the core DLLs like Kernel and the server).
There is just 1 open patch (the powerpc signal handling), which alexandre needs to apply and then you have winemine, notepad and some other sample winelib apps running on PPC.
The ABI is incompatible due to a r13 mess up in the ELF ABI, but this does not matter for sourcecode ported apps.
Ciao, Marcus
Hello,
i'm completely a newbie, but should be possible merge bochs code in order to emulate an x86 cpu in wine? The MacOS port of Bochs is quite operative.
regards, fausto
Lunedì, Agosto 26, 2002, alle 09:27 PM, Lionel Ulmer ha scritto:
b) Wine includes an x86 emulator and gets nearly re-written.
Well, the 'nearly gets re-written' is maybe a little bit exagerated.... Winelib already works on PPC (or at least Marcus is trying to get it to work). That is already a first step :-) After, there are a lot of tricky stuff to do, but no big rewrite (well, except in the core DLLs like Kernel and the server).
I wonder if anybody ever started a 'bug' or 'task' on Bugzilla to write down everything that would be needed to support Wine + emulation.
Lionel-- Lionel Ulmer - http://www.bbrox.org/
--- Fausto Saporito fausto.saporito@virgilio.it wrote:
Hello,
i'm completely a newbie, but should be possible merge bochs code in order to emulate an x86 cpu in wine? The MacOS port of Bochs is quite operative.
Such idea was descussed before many times. Run search on Google with keywords Wine bochs for more information.
Andriy
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On Tue, 27 Aug 2002, Fausto Saporito wrote:
Hello,
i'm completely a newbie, but should be possible merge bochs code in order to emulate an x86 cpu in wine? The MacOS port of Bochs is quite operative.
Trying to run an x86 Windows application inside a non-x86 Wine(lib) environment is going to be a nightmare.
If you want to run Wine (i.e. the binary emulator) on non-x86 architectures, the best approach is to run the Windows application and Wine-x86 in an x86 emulator. If your emulator is fast enough to run the Windows application with a reasonable performance, then it should be fast enough to run Wine-x86 too.
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