I'm going to be giving a Wine presentation at Cebit next month. You can see a draft of the presentation at http://kegel.com/wine/cebit2009/talk.html (I will say lots more than is written there; the slides are kept simple on purpose, with just the key idea in the caption.)
A large part of the presentation will be demos of platium-rated apps. Can people suggest compelling apps to demo? Right now my list is kind of boring-sounding: Framemaker 7 Kid Pix gp-Untis Photoshop cs2 Futuretax Dreamweaver
It'd be nice to also have some games, but I don't play enough to know which ones to pick. I suspect online games are out, since I can't count on an internet connection.
I'm tempted to write an autohotkey script to demo each app so I don't have to worry about fumbling mouse clicks while on stage. The ability to script would be a nice demo itself.
This show is a big opportunity for us to introduce Wine to a large audience, so any help here would be appreciated.
Dan,
As far as games go, off the top of my head there is WoW, and Guildwars. Battlefield 2/2142 both seem good choice. Counter Strike: Source and COD4 are gold rated. Lastly Crysis is gold rated too. There is an issue with punkbuster but that only effects online play.
3Dmark06 seems to work to some degree, http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=13809 .
Also it might be interesting to show off, how Wine works with CUDA, http://gpu2.twomurs.com/index.php?title=Main_Page . There are some emails on the mailing list back when I first started working on the wrapper. I think it shows just how advanced Wine is. Not only can it run a windows program but with a wrapper it transfers the calls from windows dll to linux .so to the GPU, with stellar performance.
-Seth Shelnutt
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Dan Kegel dank@kegel.com wrote:
I'm going to be giving a Wine presentation at Cebit next month. You can see a draft of the presentation at http://kegel.com/wine/cebit2009/talk.html (I will say lots more than is written there; the slides are kept simple on purpose, with just the key idea in the caption.)
A large part of the presentation will be demos of platium-rated apps. Can people suggest compelling apps to demo? Right now my list is kind of boring-sounding: Framemaker 7 Kid Pix gp-Untis Photoshop cs2 Futuretax Dreamweaver
It'd be nice to also have some games, but I don't play enough to know which ones to pick. I suspect online games are out, since I can't count on an internet connection.
I'm tempted to write an autohotkey script to demo each app so I don't have to worry about fumbling mouse clicks while on stage. The ability to script would be a nice demo itself.
This show is a big opportunity for us to introduce Wine to a large audience, so any help here would be appreciated.
On Sunday 01 February 2009 20:11:33 Seth Shelnutt wrote:
Dan,
As far as games go, off the top of my head there is WoW, and Guildwars. Battlefield 2/2142 both seem good choice. Counter Strike: Source and COD4 are gold rated. Lastly Crysis is gold rated too. There is an issue with punkbuster but that only effects online play.
You do need to take the German youth protection law into account, though. I'd stay away from shooters, I guess.
Cheers, Kai
2009/2/1 Kai Blin kai.blin@gmail.com:
On Sunday 01 February 2009 20:11:33 Seth Shelnutt wrote:
Dan,
As far as games go, off the top of my head there is WoW, and Guildwars. Battlefield 2/2142 both seem good choice. Counter Strike: Source and COD4 are gold rated. Lastly Crysis is gold rated too. There is an issue with punkbuster but that only effects online play.
You do need to take the German youth protection law into account, though. I'd stay away from shooters, I guess.
A lot of the Casual games work (e.g. from Oberon Media and PopCap Games) such as Westward III, Chuzzle, Bejeweled 2 and Peggle, but then again a lot don't :( - the AppDB has an entry for them.
With WoW I spent my free game period downloading the ~8 GB worth of data :(! The other Blizzard titles (Diablo 2, StarCraft and its expansion, Warcraft 3 Reign of Chaos and The Frozen Throne expansion [1]) work.
Other than that, Cepstral SwiftTalker (a text to speech program, with various voices) works flawlessly (if you disable pulseaudio; with pulseaudio it can lock up if you stop then play some text). But then they also have a (command line) Linux version.
[1] I have had it crash sometimes between levels, but haven't had the time to track this down or try the Warcraft 3 save race condition game patch.
- Reece
It's too bad you can't count on an internet Connection. WoW and City of Heroes/Villains are two of the most impressive looking (and fast) games under Wine, IMHO. Heck, even just the login screen for WoW might be a nice show - with the dracolich constantly landing/taking off while it's snowing.
I wouldn't recommend Counter-Strike: Source. It needs to be forced to DirectX8 mode to achieve a usable speed, and in that mode it looks pretty poor up next to what people are used seeing on the average Windows machine.
Though boring to some, I think you made a good choice including DreamWeaver - as the native apps just haven't caught up, yet.
-J
Seth Shelnutt wrote:
Dan,
As far as games go, off the top of my head there is WoW, and Guildwars. Battlefield 2/2142 both seem good choice. Counter Strike: Source and COD4 are gold rated. Lastly Crysis is gold rated too. There is an issue with punkbuster but that only effects online play.
3Dmark06 seems to work to some degree, http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=13809 http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=13809 .
Also it might be interesting to show off, how Wine works with CUDA, http://gpu2.twomurs.com/index.php?title=Main_Page . There are some emails on the mailing list back when I first started working on the wrapper. I think it shows just how advanced Wine is. Not only can it run a windows program but with a wrapper it transfers the calls from windows dll to linux .so to the GPU, with stellar performance.
-Seth Shelnutt
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Dan Kegel <dank@kegel.com mailto:dank@kegel.com> wrote:
I'm going to be giving a Wine presentation at Cebit next month. You can see a draft of the presentation at http://kegel.com/wine/cebit2009/talk.html (I will say lots more than is written there; the slides are kept simple on purpose, with just the key idea in the caption.) A large part of the presentation will be demos of platium-rated apps. Can people suggest compelling apps to demo? Right now my list is kind of boring-sounding: Framemaker 7 Kid Pix gp-Untis Photoshop cs2 Futuretax Dreamweaver It'd be nice to also have some games, but I don't play enough to know which ones to pick. I suspect online games are out, since I can't count on an internet connection. I'm tempted to write an autohotkey script to demo each app so I don't have to worry about fumbling mouse clicks while on stage. The ability to script would be a nice demo itself. This show is a big opportunity for us to introduce Wine to a large audience, so any help here would be appreciated.
Hi Dan from top of my head -
Heroes of Might and Magic III Wizardry 8 Lord of the Rings: Battle for Middle-Earth 2
all have free demo downloads and don't require net.
I already had Heroes 3 Demo autohotkey script prepared for my presentation about Windows GUI automation inside Unixes.
Feel free to use it if it fits your needs, it's attached in mail.
Cheers Hark
SetWorkingDir, C:\Program Files\3DO\Heroes III Demo Run h3demo.exe Click 1,1 Click 1,1 ; Wait till intro movies start Sleep 10000
; Skip two intro movies via click. no coords needed Click 2,2 Click 2,2 Sleep 1000
; New Game - stable coords MouseMove 640,50 Sleep 1000 Click 640,50 Sleep 1000
; Confirm New Game first message, stable coords MouseMove 400,410 Sleep 1000 Click 400,410 Sleep 1000
; Ride with horse near the chest, movement coords start to vary MouseMove 400,320 Click 400,320 Sleep 1000 Click 400,320 Sleep 1000
; Get chest, movement coords vary MouseMove 280,250 Click 280,250 Sleep 1000 Click 280,250 Sleep 1000
; Select Money over Experience, stable coords MouseMove 330,350 Sleep 1000 Click 330,350 Sleep 1000
; Confirm, stable coords MouseMove 390,470 Sleep 1000 Click 390,470 Sleep 1000
; Return to castle, coords relative to current location MouseMove 200,200 Sleep 1000 Click 200,200 Sleep 1000 Click 200,200 Sleep 1000
; Select building, stable coords MouseMove 150,250 Sleep 1000 Click 150,250 Sleep 1000
; Build town hall, stable coords MouseMove 100,100 Sleep 1000 Click 100,100 Sleep 1000
; Confirm Build town hall, stable coords MouseMove 250,510 Sleep 1000 Click 250,510 Sleep 1000
; Exit building, stable coords. Not needed in case of confirm dialog like above. ;MouseMove 780,570 ;Sleep 1000 ;Click 780,570 ;Sleep 1000
; Exit castle, stable coords MouseMove 780,560 Sleep 1000 Click 780,560 Sleep 1000
; Game Options, stable coords MouseMove 720,320 Sleep 1000 Click, 720,320 Sleep 1000
; Exit to desktop, stable coords MouseMove 450,480 Sleep 1000 Click 450,480 Sleep 1000
; Confirm Quit, stable coords MouseMove 350,350 Sleep 1000 Click 350,350 Sleep 1000
; Confirm exit advertisement, no coords needed Sleep 1000 Click 1,1
Exit
; Unused resources
; Load from Main menu ;MouseMove 640,150
; Quit from Main menu MouseMove 640,450 Click 640,450 Sleep 1000
Hiya, I've forgotten to add that .ahk script was designed to run with Wine Virtual Desktop Emulation enabled, not in full screen. Cheers Hark
Vít Hrachový wrote:
Hi Dan from top of my head -
Heroes of Might and Magic III Wizardry 8 Lord of the Rings: Battle for Middle-Earth 2
all have free demo downloads and don't require net.
I already had Heroes 3 Demo autohotkey script prepared for my presentation about Windows GUI automation inside Unixes.
Feel free to use it if it fits your needs, it's attached in mail.
Cheers Hark
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Vít Hrachový vit.hrachovy@sandbox.cz wrote:
Hi Dan from top of my head -
Heroes of Might and Magic III Wizardry 8 Lord of the Rings: Battle for Middle-Earth 2
all have free demo downloads and don't require net.
Wow. I just tried LOTRBFME2 :-) and it's impressive. Only problem so far is that it doesn't restore video resolution on exit. Otherwise it's the coolest game of the sort I've ever seen. (I don't get out much :-) - Dan
Hello Dan,
Maybe run the game in a Virtual Desktop?
Tom
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Dan Kegel dank@kegel.com wrote:
Wow. I just tried LOTRBFME2 :-) and it's impressive. Only problem so far is that it doesn't restore video resolution on exit. Otherwise it's the coolest game of the sort I've ever seen. (I don't get out much :-)
- Dan
ACK, I like it too :) VirtualDesktop is one workaround, second is using 'xrandr -s 0' past wine exit. As I have each game installed into individual WINEPREFIX, I've got game start scripts in ~/bin that handle WINEDEBUG=-all before start and 'xrandr -s 0' after exit.
Although, on Linux I usually play with Wine Virtual desktop (to be able to listen on ICQ and for easier app switching).
Mmmm. According to AppDB Runescape is said to work well in Wine ;) That's another layer-within-layer - Runespace is an MMORPG written in JAVA/OpenGL as browser-embedded application. Cheers Hark
Tom Wickline wrote:
Hello Dan, Maybe run the game in a Virtual Desktop? Tom
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Dan Kegel <dank@kegel.com mailto:dank@kegel.com> wrote:
Wow. I just tried LOTRBFME2 :-) and it's impressive. Only problem so far is that it doesn't restore video resolution on exit. Otherwise it's the coolest game of the sort I've ever seen. (I don't get out much :-) - Dan
2009/2/24 Vit Hrachovy vit.hrachovy@sandbox.cz:
Mmmm. According to AppDB Runescape is said to work well in Wine ;) That's another layer-within-layer - Runespace is an MMORPG written in JAVA/OpenGL as browser-embedded application.
Sounds like something that could work equally well natively ...
Ben Klein wrote:
2009/2/24 Vit Hrachovy vit.hrachovy@sandbox.cz:
Mmmm. According to AppDB Runescape is said to work well in Wine ;) That's another layer-within-layer - Runespace is an MMORPG written in JAVA/OpenGL as browser-embedded application.
Sounds like something that could work equally well natively ...
Hi Ben, surely it works natively well. Tested on people!
The $subj tells about simple and awesome demos ... 'of complexity Wine can handle'.
One sample of complexity is gaming GUI automation mentioned in the previous posts.
Another sample of elegance could be JAVA and DotNet apps embedded in browser. Imagine if Wine could handle MS SharePoint 3.0 installation...
Hark
2009/2/24 Ben Klein shacklein@gmail.com:
2009/2/24 Vit Hrachovy vit.hrachovy@sandbox.cz:
Mmmm. According to AppDB Runescape is said to work well in Wine ;) That's another layer-within-layer - Runespace is an MMORPG written in JAVA/OpenGL as browser-embedded application.
Sounds like something that could work equally well natively ...
It does. Also on Macs.
- d.
I have to suggest Knytt: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=6849
It's a simple 2d platformer. While it's not impressive in the sense of "look at all the amazing stuff wine must be doing for this to work", it's a thing that you can just download and run (with any version of wine since 1.0). Unlike some other games, it should be immediately accessible to everyone. There's a nice tutorial you can run through in a minute or so.
It was written using multimedia fusion, meaning a native port is impossible without a complete rewrite.
Also, it looks and sounds really nice.
Just, uh, don't press escape when it's in full screen mode.
Vincent Povirk
On Sun, Feb 01, 2009 at 09:48:01AM -0800, Dan Kegel wrote:
I'm going to be giving a Wine presentation at Cebit next month. You can see a draft of the presentation at http://kegel.com/wine/cebit2009/talk.html (I will say lots more than is written there; the slides are kept simple on purpose, with just the key idea in the caption.)
A large part of the presentation will be demos of platium-rated apps. Can people suggest compelling apps to demo? Right now my list is kind of boring-sounding: Framemaker 7 Kid Pix gp-Untis Photoshop cs2 Futuretax Dreamweaver
It'd be nice to also have some games, but I don't play enough to know which ones to pick. I suspect online games are out, since I can't count on an internet connection.
For games at least a NVIDIA or ATI card is required, so make sure the Laptop has one.
My shiny Lenovo X61 just has Intel graphics which makes Wine demos difficult :(
Btw, I will talk about Wine on FOSDEM 2009 next weekend in Brussel, in the openSUSE devroom.
Ciao, Marcus
Dan Kegel wrote:
It'd be nice to also have some games, but I don't play enough to know which ones to pick.
I'd suggest FlatOut 2. It's an arcade racing game with nice graphics. The only thing I couldn't get to work on Wine is online play, everything else work great - sound, videos, special effects (post processing, shadows, reflections etc).
It looks stunning on a big screen... with all the spectacular crashes, car parts, scenery parts flying around. Lots of action, plus loud rock music makes it good for parties :)
I'm amazed how well it works on Wine, even more so when I realize that it's a DX9 game, not OpenGL. Frame rate is very good on my GeForce 8600GT, perfectly smooth. I finished the whole game, and it never crashed while playing, even after several hours.
There is a playable demo available on the net. I just checked if it still works on Wine 1.1.13. Played a few races. It crashed on exit, but otherwise was OK.
Regards
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Dan Kegel dank@kegel.com wrote:
I'm going to be giving a Wine presentation at Cebit next month. You can see a draft of the presentation at http://kegel.com/wine/cebit2009/talk.html
I've updated the presentation. Mostly I just added hyperlinks (some even useful) to all the images, and added screenshots of winehq. I still have a lot to add.
If anyone knows how to get rid of the highlighting around image links via css, please let me know.
Thanks for the suggestions, I'll try the apps everybody suggested (and the autohotkey script) soon, I hope. And yes, the laptop will have a good nvidia chip, and I will make darn sure it can talk to video projectors well before I leave...
2009/2/2 Dan Kegel dank@kegel.com:
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Dan Kegel dank@kegel.com wrote:
I'm going to be giving a Wine presentation at Cebit next month. You can see a draft of the presentation at http://kegel.com/wine/cebit2009/talk.html
I've updated the presentation. Mostly I just added hyperlinks (some even useful) to all the images, and added screenshots of winehq. I still have a lot to add.
If anyone knows how to get rid of the highlighting around image links via css, please let me know.
1) Most simple way: img { border: none }
2) More advanced: img:link, img:visited { border: none }
Method 1 removes borders on all images as the default. Method 2 restricts removing the borders to hyperlinks.
Thanks for the suggestions, I'll try the apps everybody suggested (and the autohotkey script) soon, I hope. And yes, the laptop will have a good nvidia chip, and I will make darn sure it can talk to video projectors well before I leave...
Thanks, the simple way worked great.
On Feb 1, 2009 10:29 PM, "Ben Klein" shacklein@gmail.com wrote:
2009/2/2 Dan Kegel dank@kegel.com:
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Dan Kegel dank@kegel.com wrote: >> I'm
going to be giving a Wine... 1) Most simple way: img { border: none }
2) More advanced: img:link, img:visited { border: none }
Method 1 removes borders on all images as the default. Method 2 restricts removing the borders to hyperlinks.
Thanks for the suggestions, I'll try the apps everybody > suggested (and
the autohotkey script) s...
Dan -
I just a presentation last week at our local LUG and here's what I did. (And for reference, this is the first time in almost 2 years I've had Linux and Wine loaded on my laptop - I like what you guys did with the place.)
1. I gave the presentation in Powerpoint 2003 and CrossOver Office. I started the presentation on a separate desktop before anyone saw me do it, so they didn't know it was Powerpoint. At the appropriate time during the presentation for eye candy, I pressed ESC and said - "And here's Powerpoint". I also pointed out that it runs so stunningly well that's it's completely unimpressive.. and that's exactly what Wine should be. I also started up Word quickly to show it running.
2. Oh, all of these demos were shortcuts on my desktop so I could start them quickly.
3. I ran Wine's iexplore.exe and let it load winehq.org. Then I explained some architecture stuff like how it was a Wine MSHTML.DLL connecting to a Windows Gecko engine for rendering. It was also a brief intro intro into what a Winelib app was.
4. Then I VERY briefly showed off Wine's regedit, mostly as an intro for folks to understand Wine has a registry.
5. Finally, I ran 3DMark2001SE to show off 3D. I wish I could have gotten 3DMark05 or 06 running, and I suspect I could have with some prodding, but they do seem to require a software purchase and license key to do anything cool. At least 01 is D3D8 and there's good demo's that don't require a license key. 01 does have some good eye candy - I let the demos run for about 10 minutes while I used a whiteboard to illustrate some architecture stuff with Wine. Note: if you run 3D demos on a projector you might want to consider using desktop mode. I got lucky and the projector was ok with the resolution resizing and it only had a bit of a glitch. I do suspect a lot of projectors will be unhappy with Wine changing resolutions.
I considered showing off a real game, like WoW or Call of Duty, but the real problem was the sheer size of the downloads - 600MB and the install size, 16GB, which my little laptop just wasn't up for since I was putting the 3D demo together at the last minute. Also, I wanted something that would run automatically that I didn't have to interact with, hence the 3DMark01 demo.
6. You might want to consider showing off Google's Picasa and it's custom Wine implementation. I almost did.. and you'd know even more about the guts of that.
-Brian
Hello Dan,
I would suggest maybe a demo of CrossOver Office and Office 2003 or 2007. Yes, I'm aware of Open Office but many business still prefer Microsoft Office and Outlook.. It also shows that there is a support channel available for large install bases.
Just my $.02
Tom
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 1:48 AM, Dan Kegel dank@kegel.com wrote:
This show is a big opportunity for us to introduce Wine to a large audience, so any help here would be appreciated.
Hello,
In case of games, I'd suggest Prey - game works perfectly under WINE, and have some very nice graphics. There is a demo available somewhere.
And I agree with someone who previously posted that you should try Flatout 2 (though NFS: Carbon and both Underground I & II work fine for me too). You can try Oblivion too (does have a demo, but requires a decent graphics card and lots of memory). All games have a demo version, so you don't have to own them.
If you want to show some apps, try Photoshop. This is the app that most Linux users miss. Photoshop is big, advanced app that works almost fine (with few glitches, unfortunately it works slower than on Windows because of lack of DIB engine).
Cheers
Tomasz Sałaciński wrote:
Hello, me too). You can try Oblivion too (does have a demo, but requires a decent graphics card and lots of memory). All games have a demo version, so you don't have to own them.
Hi Tom, I'm too sorry to correct you, but both Morrowind and Oblivion don't provide playable demos. Only demo movies.
Please correct me if I'm wrong and provide me download links - I'd gladly mirror them. Hark
Hi, Yes, my bad... I just thought I saw the demo somewhere on the internet. 2009/2/2 Vit Hrachovy vit.hrachovy@sandbox.cz
Tomasz Sałaciński wrote:
Hello, me too). You can try Oblivion too (does have a demo, but requires a decent graphics card and lots of memory). All games have a demo version, so you don't have to own them.
Hi Tom, I'm too sorry to correct you, but both Morrowind and Oblivion don't provide playable demos. Only demo movies.
Please correct me if I'm wrong and provide me download links - I'd gladly mirror them. Hark
Dan Kegel wrote:
I'm going to be giving a Wine presentation at Cebit next month. You can see a draft of the presentation at http://kegel.com/wine/cebit2009/talk.html (I will say lots more than is written there; the slides are kept simple on purpose, with just the key idea in the caption.)
A large part of the presentation will be demos of platium-rated apps. Can people suggest compelling apps to demo?
For the engineerings LTSpice
http://www.linear.com/designtools/software/ltspice.jsp
Its authors are wine-friendly. This from the online help
"LTspice detects whether or not it's running under WINE. If so, it works around a few WINE issues. You can force LTspice to think it's running under WINE with the command line switch –wine. You can force it to think it's not with the command line switch –nowine in case you're interesting in working on WINE issues."
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Eliot Blennerhassett linux@audioscience.com wrote:
Dan Kegel wrote:
I'm going to be giving a Wine presentation at Cebit next month. You can see a draft of the presentation at http://kegel.com/wine/cebit2009/talk.html (I will say lots more than is written there; the slides are kept simple on purpose, with just the key idea in the caption.)
A large part of the presentation will be demos of platium-rated apps. Can people suggest compelling apps to demo?
For the engineerings LTSpice
http://www.linear.com/designtools/software/ltspice.jsp
Its authors are wine-friendly. This from the online help
"LTspice detects whether or not it's running under WINE. If so, it works around a few WINE issues. You can force LTspice to think it's running under WINE with the command line switch –wine. You can force it to think it's not with the command line switch –nowine in case you're interesting in working on WINE issues."
Rather than working around any bugs, they should file bugs so we know to fix them, ideally with testcases.
A search in bugzilla shows 2 bugs with LTSpice in the name/comments.
Hmmm.... you make a pretty good point there. Hopefully it's in their plan and they just haven't had time.
Austin English wrote:
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Eliot Blennerhassett linux@audioscience.com wrote:
Dan Kegel wrote:
I'm going to be giving a Wine presentation at Cebit next month. You can see a draft of the presentation at http://kegel.com/wine/cebit2009/talk.html (I will say lots more than is written there; the slides are kept simple on purpose, with just the key idea in the caption.)
A large part of the presentation will be demos of platium-rated apps. Can people suggest compelling apps to demo?
For the engineerings LTSpice
http://www.linear.com/designtools/software/ltspice.jsp
Its authors are wine-friendly. This from the online help
"LTspice detects whether or not it's running under WINE. If so, it works around a few WINE issues. You can force LTspice to think it's running under WINE with the command line switch –wine. You can force it to think it's not with the command line switch –nowine in case you're interesting in working on WINE issues."
Rather than working around any bugs, they should file bugs so we know to fix them, ideally with testcases.
A search in bugzilla shows 2 bugs with LTSpice in the name/comments.
Austin English austinenglish@gmail.com wrote:
Rather than working around any bugs, they should file bugs so we know to fix them, ideally with testcases.
Sometimes ISVs just want to get a product out the door.
At least they have the runtime option so we can force it on or off, which is nice of them.
It would be nice if someone could verify with them that we have bugs filed for everything they had to work around, and maybe wheedle out of them what the workaround they applied was.
Wow... that's pretty cool of the LTspice authors to do that and not just leave it in their own personal debug builds!
Eliot Blennerhassett wrote:
Dan Kegel wrote:
I'm going to be giving a Wine presentation at Cebit next month. You can see a draft of the presentation at http://kegel.com/wine/cebit2009/talk.html (I will say lots more than is written there; the slides are kept simple on purpose, with just the key idea in the caption.)
A large part of the presentation will be demos of platium-rated apps. Can people suggest compelling apps to demo?
For the engineerings LTSpice
http://www.linear.com/designtools/software/ltspice.jsp
Its authors are wine-friendly. This from the online help
"LTspice detects whether or not it's running under WINE. If so, it works around a few WINE issues. You can force LTspice to think it's running under WINE with the command line switch –wine. You can force it to think it's not with the command line switch –nowine in case you're interesting in working on WINE issues."
2009/2/3 Evil Jay wine@eternaldusk.com:
Eliot Blennerhassett wrote:
"LTspice detects whether or not it's running under WINE. If so, it works around a few WINE issues. You can force LTspice to think it's running under WINE with the command line switch –wine. You can force it to think it's not with the command line switch –nowine in case you're interesting in working on WINE issues."
Wow... that's pretty cool of the LTspice authors to do that and not just leave it in their own personal debug builds!
As Austin says, it would be better if they submitted bugs with test cases to bugs.winehq.org. It'd be even better again if they submitted patches to Wine. What will happen when the bugs get fixed in Wine, and LTspice is still trying to work around them?
I've been trying to think of some good games to demo ...
http://www.spore.com/trial Spore Creature Creator runs very well and has a trial version (which sounds weird to me, a trial version of a trial version). It's also family-friendly if that's a consideration.
I was going to suggest Halo: Combat Evolved, but that's probably not cute and fuzzy enough (and some of the shadows don't work properly).
Apparently there's a demo of Portal. That might be a good choice too. Seems it's available via Steam: http://store.steampowered.com/app/410/
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