Susan, thanks for your continued research. It's giving me a good grasp of reality.
On that note, will it be possible to run the various MS Office 2003 apps. on the Mac with Crossover, or will there be so many snags that it makes more sense to buy the Office product designed for Mac? This is a question for all of you.
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 6:13 AM, Susan Cragin susancragin@earthlink.netwrote:
Thanks to all of you. This is very helpful information. Susan, I appreciate your willingness to run more tests. I'm particularly interested in being able to run NS on CrossOver Mac by Codeweavers. I am planning on switching from a PC to a Mac, and for several reasons, I don't want to have to install the Windows operating system and use Boot Camp or Fusion. I already own NS 8 Professional and am hoping it can function on the Mac and be used on Office applications designed for the Mac (and on Mac applications, too). I don't need most of the features that go beyond the Preferred version, so if I stick to those features available on Preferred, would I get good functionality?
Of course, if I could also use the feature that records and saves a transcript of specific dictations (not available on Preferred), it would be especially nice. Any possibility of your testing that out?
I was hoping I could upgrade to the new version 10 and use it on the Mac, but it seems that would not be a good idea at this time.
I'll be grateful for whatever further assistance you can provide.
Steve D.
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Susan Cragin susancragin@earthlink.netwrote:
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Jeff Zaroyko jeffzaroyko@gmail.com
wrote:
While I don't own any NS product, two open bugs to come to mind for NS 8, one affecting the installer but with a workaround, bug 15708 and the other a user has reported a regression bug 16248 but was not interested in running a regression test.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15708 http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16248
I think those were both for NS 7, not 8... A full list of NS bugs is at http://bugs.winehq.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=Dragon+Naturally+Speaking Looks like 9 is happier than 10...?
I have 7, 8, 9, 9.5 and 10 here. I'll test a couple tonight, maybe 7 and 8, on today's git. Here's what I remember. 7 worked great right out of the box at one time, with all-native code. 8 is virtually the same product as 7. Ditto worked great. (Nobody bought 8 much because it was the same engine as 7.) 9.0 worked pretty good out of the box with a couple of glitches. 9.5 does not install, and works not at all, except for one lucky man who developed a workaround that doesn't always work. (9.5 replaced 9.0 as "version 9," and 9.0 is no longer sold, at least in the US.) 10.0 installs well and runs pretty well for 10 minutes, then nasty crashes happen.
Wine support has been given primarily for the two cheapest "consumer" versions, Standard and Preferred. Very few people have asked about Professional, and I don't know of anyone who has tried to make Professional 8 run with wine.
Susan
Well, I tested 7 and 8 last night with a current git. For 7, bug 15708 is
still active. I was unable to do the workaround. 8 installs and trains without a problem but then does not run. I filed a bug report. bug 17057. I will do a little more work on this and keep you updated. Susan
Steven Druker wrote:
Susan, thanks for your continued research. It's giving me a good grasp of reality.
On that note, will it be possible to run the various MS Office 2003 apps. on the Mac with Crossover, or will there be so many snags that it makes more sense to buy the Office product designed for Mac? This is a question for all of you.
Actually, this is a user question. As an avid supporter of the Mac Darwine builds, I would state that running Office 2008 for the Mac would be better (it is a native application). HOWEVER, there is NO Access program that ships for the Mac (at least as far as I know) so if you require this program, you will have to take a step backwards and use Office 2003.
As to support for various Windows programs, you have to test most of them yourself as functionality between the Linux and Mac releases of Wine may vary.
Also, as a side note, I am working on Mike Kronenberg's Darwine builds on my Intel Mac. Darwine does not fully function on the Power PC and it appears that the project is currently abandonware.
As to the functionality of various Office 2003 programs with Crossover for the Mac, you'll have to ask there and look at their compatibility list. They do things that Wine does not, like support the Aqua native interface (I just got done playing Doom II on it, which did not run on Mike Kronenberg's nor Zach Drayer's Darwine builds.)
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