"Alexandre" == Alexandre Julliard julliard@winehq.org writes:
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Alexandre> ... Start deprecating the --debugmsg option.
Would a patch extending the wrapper to understand all those old but handy options ( --debugmsg , --dll) be acceptable?
Uwe Bonnes bon@elektron.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de writes:
Would a patch extending the wrapper to understand all those old but handy options ( --debugmsg , --dll) be acceptable?
No, I think it's better to start using the new mechanism. Otherwise there will be even more confusion about when you can use the options and when you can't. And really, typing WINEDEBUG= isn't much harder than typing --debugmsg.
"Alexandre" == Alexandre Julliard julliard@winehq.org writes:
Alexandre> Uwe Bonnes bon@elektron.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de writes: >> Would a patch extending the wrapper to understand all those old but >> handy options ( --debugmsg , --dll) be acceptable?
Alexandre> No, I think it's better to start using the new Alexandre> mechanism. Otherwise there will be even more confusion about Alexandre> when you can use the options and when you can't. And really, Alexandre> typing WINEDEBUG= isn't much harder than typing --debugmsg.
Changelog: documentation/wine.man.in Mention the env command to start a command with modified variables
On Fri, 12 Mar 2004, Uwe Bonnes wrote:
Changelog: documentation/wine.man.in Mention the env command to start a command with modified variables
Why do you need env(1)? What's wrong with:
WINEDEBUG=+relay wine yourprog.exe
"Dimitrie" == Dimitrie O Paun dimi@intelliware.ca writes:
Dimitrie> On Fri, 12 Mar 2004, Uwe Bonnes wrote: >> Changelog: documentation/wine.man.in Mention the env command to start >> a command with modified variables
Dimitrie> Why do you need env(1)? What's wrong with:
Dimitrie> WINEDEBUG=+relay wine yourprog.exe
It only works with selected shells...
On Fri, 12 Mar 2004, Uwe Bonnes wrote:
Dimitrie> WINEDEBUG=+relay wine yourprog.exeIt only works with selected shells...
s/selected/standard/
If you have the bad inspiration to us csh instead, I think you should know how to translate standard shell idions into your own. It's just stupid to have to document these in every project in existance. They belong in one place: csh/xxxsh/etc. man page.
"Dimitrie" == Dimitrie O Paun dimi@intelliware.ca writes:
Dimitrie> On Fri, 12 Mar 2004, Uwe Bonnes wrote: WINEDEBUG=+relay wine Dimitrie> yourprog.exe >> It only works with selected shells...
Dimitrie> s/selected/standard/
Dimitrie> If you have the bad inspiration to us csh instead, I think you Dimitrie> should know how to translate standard shell idions into your Dimitrie> own. It's just stupid to have to document these in every Dimitrie> project in existance. They belong in one place: Dimitrie> csh/xxxsh/etc. man page.
Ah, holy shell wars :-)
An example is worth a lot of explanations. The vanishing wine command line option nerved me a long time now. Only today I looked up what can be done to start wine with changed variables for that command. For csh, I found no other way than the env(1) way...
On Fri, 12 Mar 2004, Uwe Bonnes wrote:
Ah, holy shell wars :-)
yes, finally!!!
An example is worth a lot of explanations. The vanishing wine command line option nerved me a long time now. Only today I looked up what can be done to start wine with changed variables for that command. For csh, I found no other way than the env(1) way...
Sure, but my point is that the wine man pages are not the place to document csh behaviour. Vast majority of Wine users are Linux users, and virtually all of them run a Bourne compatible shell. As such, your clarification in fact is quite confusing (WTF is this env(1) about, and why should I care? Did I miss anything? Eh? That was my reaction in the first .1s) for the vast majority of our users.
If you want to use a non-standard shell, you should be fully aware what a heck your doing, and be prepared to adapt standard idioms to your special shell. And this without looking at the wine man page.
On Fri, Mar 12, 2004 at 08:33:32PM +0100, Uwe Bonnes wrote:
"Dimitrie" == Dimitrie O Paun dimi@intelliware.ca writes:
Dimitrie> On Fri, 12 Mar 2004, Uwe Bonnes wrote: WINEDEBUG=+relay wine Dimitrie> yourprog.exe >> It only works with selected shells... Dimitrie> s/selected/standard/ Dimitrie> If you have the bad inspiration to us csh instead, I think you Dimitrie> should know how to translate standard shell idions into your Dimitrie> own. It's just stupid to have to document these in every Dimitrie> project in existance. They belong in one place: Dimitrie> csh/xxxsh/etc. man page.Ah, holy shell wars :-)
If our hearts are pure, we can stomp out csh in our lifetime!
To paraphrase Jamie Zawinski... :-)
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