wine explorer /desktop=Title,0x0 app.exe for fullscreen?

Hi,

on MacOS, I've setup winecfg with a default virtual desktop because
full screen apps generally don't work.

However, all windowing apps (e.g. notepad, regedit) would benefit from
not using this desktop window. They nicely open resizable windows when run in full screen.

The FAQ recommends wine explorer /desktop=Title,800x600 for running
apps inside windows when fullscreen is the default setting.

What I need is the exact opposite.

Looking at the source, I found out that the converse works using
wine explorer /desktop=Title,0x0 regedit.exe
opens a regedit window without a virtual desktop one.

Can that behaviour be blessed officially and documented? Or is it accidental?

Regards,
 Jörg Höhle

[Alexandre Julliard]

 writes:
> What I need is the exact opposite.
>
> Looking at the source, I found out that the converse works using
> wine explorer /desktop=Title,0x0 regedit.exe
> opens a regedit window without a virtual desktop one.
>
> Can that behaviour be blessed officially and documented? Or is it accidental?

It's accidental. What you want is /desktop=root.

[James McKenzie]

[e-mail] wrote:
> Hi,
>
> on MacOS, I've setup winecfg with a default virtual desktop because
> full screen apps generally don't work.
>
> However, all windowing apps (e.g. notepad, regedit) would benefit from
> not using this desktop window. They nicely open resizable windows when run in full screen.
>
> The FAQ recommends wine explorer /desktop=Title,800x600 for running
> apps inside windows when fullscreen is the default setting.
>
> What I need is the exact opposite.

This won't work until Apple/MacQuartz builds an xrandr that works and 
works properly.  The fact that Notepad/Regedit/Winecfg work is purely 
accidental and may break at any time.

James McKenzie

[Charles Davis]

On Jul 11, 2010, at 10:01 PM, James McKenzie wrote:
> This won't work until Apple/MacQuartz

You mean XQuartz, right?
> builds an xrandr that works and works properly.  The fact that Notepad/Regedit/Winecfg work is purely accidental and may break at any time.

No, they work because they don't have to change the screen resolution.

In general, any app that only creates windows and doesn't need to change the screen resolution will work just fine without a virtual desktop under XQuartz. Only apps that need to change the screen resolution (like full-screen games) need XRandR (or a virtual desktop).

Chip

[James McKenzie]

Charles Davis wrote:
> On Jul 11, 2010, at 10:01 PM, James McKenzie wrote:
> > This won't work until Apple/MacQuartz
>
> You mean XQuartz, right?

Correct.  Add MacPorts to this as they distribute XQuartz as an 
installable product.  My confusion here...
> > builds an xrandr that works and works properly.  The fact that Notepad/Regedit/Winecfg work is purely accidental and may break at any time.
>
> No, they work because they don't have to change the screen resolution.
>
> In general, any app that only creates windows and doesn't need to change the screen resolution will work just fine without a virtual desktop under XQuartz. Only apps that need to change the screen resolution (like full-screen games) need XRandR (or a virtual desktop).

Thank you for the clarification.  So, a program that does creates its 
own 'window' would also work as well?  That explains why eSword works 
fullscreen.  Something like Quake4 as delivered for Windows would not as 
it wants to change the screen resolution.

Makes sense now.  Just is XRandR is a big missing piece from X11 for the 
Mac right now.

James McKenzie