Hey all. We've migrated our Wiki to a new backend. At this point we've ported most of the English pages over. BIG BIG thanks to Rosanne for doing this migration work.
Right now, the Wiki is locked down so only approved editors can make changes. So, if you need edit access, send an email to web-admin@winehq.org until we have a better system for approving editors in place.
The old wiki is temporarily available at http://oldwiki.winehq.org If you need some content from there.
I'm sure there will be plenty of things to fix.
I also want to give serious kudos to Dimi and Lattica for previously hosting the Wiki. Thanks man!
-N
On 01/19/2016 01:35 PM, Jeremy Newman wrote:
Hey all. We've migrated our Wiki to a new backend. At this point we've ported most of the English pages over. BIG BIG thanks to Rosanne for doing this migration work.
Wow, that was quick! It looks like you all are making rapid progress, especially Rosanne going by hand. I just remembered a couple things about the wiki pages that might help.
The first is that you can get a list of all pages with "Help" in the title on the old wiki (I'd include a link but "oldwiki.winehq.org" isn't working right now); the page "HelpingWine" is one of ours, but IIRC, every other one is a pre-loaded Moinmoin page and can be ignored (please check me on that though). There are some other system pages to avoid too, like SyntaxReference, but I don't think there's a simple way to avoid checking one by one (unless you're in contact with Dimi, on the actual server they're stored in a separate "underlay" folder). The other thing is that I tried trimming a lot of the redirects last year, so all the redirects that are still there should probably be kept for at least another year or so.
I'm sure there will be plenty of things to fix.
The new theme looks realllly good; I only noticed a couple things (on Iceweasel/Firefox 38.5.0) about the navigation tabs. On the main WineHQ pages (but not the wiki), they don't stick to the top of the window (I think it's caused by the 45px margin-top for #whq-page-body, line 302 of styles.css). The other issue is the tab labels seem to be smaller on the wiki than on the main page; the only difference I'm seeing in CSS Inspector though is that on the main page, styles.css is overriding bootstrap to give ... font-family: "bitstream vera sans","verdana","arial","helvetica",sans-serif while on the wiki, load.php is overriding bootstrap so that ... font-family: "Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif
Kyle
On 01/19/2016 05:31 PM, Kyle Auble wrote:
The new theme looks realllly good; I only noticed a couple things (on Iceweasel/Firefox 38.5.0) about the navigation tabs. On the main WineHQ pages (but not the wiki), they don't stick to the top of the window (I think it's caused by the 45px margin-top for #whq-page-body, line 302 of styles.css).
The 45px margin-top on #whq-page-body allows the search input to be above it. The whq-search-box is absolute positioned. The tabs themselves have a 0 margin and padding, so nothing should be above them.
The other issue is the tab labels seem to be smaller on the wiki than on the main page; the only difference I'm seeing in CSS Inspector though is that on the main page, styles.css is overriding bootstrap to give ... font-family: "bitstream vera sans","verdana","arial","helvetica",sans-serif while on the wiki, load.php is overriding bootstrap so that ... font-family: "Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif
Yep, good catch. That was a leftover from the old design, I had meant to remove that.
On 01/20/2016 01:44 PM, Jeremy Newman wrote:
On 01/19/2016 05:31 PM, Kyle Auble wrote:
The new theme looks realllly good; I only noticed a couple things (on Iceweasel/Firefox 38.5.0) about the navigation tabs. On the main WineHQ pages (but not the wiki), they don't stick to the top of the window (I think it's caused by the 45px margin-top for #whq-page-body, line 302 of styles.css).
The 45px margin-top on #whq-page-body allows the search input to be above it. The whq-search-box is absolute positioned. The tabs themselves have a 0 margin and padding, so nothing should be above them.
Yeah, for some reason I forgot to actually tweak that setting in Inspector last night; I just measured the pixel gap I was seeing for the nav-tabs, got 45px, and it seemed like a nice round number so I searched for it in CSS. You're right, the content boxes rush to the top when I unset it, but doing so does fix the gap for the nav-bar. So it's somehow deciding the gap for me, but it turns out that WineHQ definitely isn't the problem, Firefox before v.42 is:
https://www.fxsitecompat.com/en-CA/docs/2015/css-float-bugs-have-been-fixed/
I went ahead and checked some of the other pages, on a phone too (Firefox for Android, v.43.0). The mobile theme looks amazing. I only found two very minor things and one that's totally subjective. The first is that we're still using the Moinmoin logo for the wiki entry on the Support landing page; it looks like there's a wide set of MediaWiki icons though, in png or svg and all licensed GPL or some form of CC:
(for png) https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:MediaWiki_logos (for svg) https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:SVG_MediaWiki_logos
The second is that in the mobile version, content on the left of some entries overflows into text on the right. It's just the other distro icons on Download (but not the CrossOver icon) and longer words (but not the icons) on the Support and Development pages. I think it's mostly the padding collapsing some under my phone's narrow screen (~2 in), but if I look closely even on desktop, the Support page labels "AppDB" and "Bugzilla" don't seem to centered in their divs (or under their icons). I don't know if this is Firefox specific too, but changing "text-align" from "center" to "-moz-center" doesn't center the icons to the text.
However, removing "padding-right" from the "col-xs-2" and "col-md-1" classes does at least center the icon over the text (if not the text itself). Granted that's probably not the ideal solution, it could be counter-productive on other pages, and it definitely will be if padding-right is removed from the other classes in that mass-definition.
The totally subjective thing is that when I loaded the main page on my mobile, for some reason having the About paragraph between the About button and the other buttons felt strange to me (not that I even noticed on the desktop). I can't really give any reason not to arrange it that way though. So if nobody else feels the same or it's technically simpler, definitely ignore my weird sensibilities.
Kyle
On Tue, 19 Jan 2016 14:35:42 -0600 Jeremy Newman jnewman@codeweavers.com wrote:
Hey all. We've migrated our Wiki to a new backend. At this point we've ported most of the English pages over. BIG BIG thanks to Rosanne for doing this migration work.
That overstates things quite a bit. What's actually complete is: --the Main Page and all pages it directly links to --the FAQ and all pages that it directly links to --the pages the Downloads page directly links to Currently I'm working on porting all the pages linked to from the Developers page. I think that will cover the most important (visible and used) pages, but if there are any I've missed that should be ported ASAP, let me know.
Note that besides fixing the markup, I've also been editing content. I've found quite a few things that were outdated, and I've run across pages that we should consider not porting at all. Many pages have not been maintained for years, and IMO shouldn't be ported without updating (e.g., most of the Status pages).
The old wiki is temporarily available at http://oldwiki.winehq.org If you need some content from there.
I need it to continue porting. It's easier than using the Wayback Machine.
I'm sure there will be plenty of things to fix.
A couple of things I am not going to touch: --Home pages: Users will need to recreate their own home pages. --Translations: I'm not qualified. Translators should keep in mind that I have been editing content as needed as I go along, so please check that when porting your translation. --http://oldwiki.winehq.org/Debunking_Wine_Myths: someone started revising this page several years ago and then gave up, leaving the page an absolute mess. I think it should be updated and ported, but right now my priority is on porting the documentation that developers and users actually need, so I'm not likely to get to it any time soon. If anyone wants to tackle that one, feel free.
On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 9:59 PM, Rosanne DiMesio dimesio@earthlink.net wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jan 2016 14:35:42 -0600 Jeremy Newman jnewman@codeweavers.com wrote:
Hey all. We've migrated our Wiki to a new backend. At this point we've ported most of the English pages over. BIG BIG thanks to Rosanne for doing this migration work.
That overstates things quite a bit. What's actually complete is: --the Main Page and all pages it directly links to --the FAQ and all pages that it directly links to --the pages the Downloads page directly links to Currently I'm working on porting all the pages linked to from the Developers page. I think that will cover the most important (visible and used) pages, but if there are any I've missed that should be ported ASAP, let me know.
Note that besides fixing the markup, I've also been editing content. I've found quite a few things that were outdated, and I've run across pages that we should consider not porting at all. Many pages have not been maintained for years, and IMO shouldn't be ported without updating (e.g., most of the Status pages).
I think the Status pages and anything similarly outdated should be dropped.
2016-01-19 20:59 GMT-07:00 Rosanne DiMesio dimesio@earthlink.net:
A couple of things I am not going to touch: --Home pages: Users will need to recreate their own home pages. --Translations: I'm not qualified. Translators should keep in mind that I have been editing content as needed as I go along, so please check that when porting your translation.
Rosanne, thank you for dealing with the wiki :-) I've been meaning to tell you: Most of the translated wiki pages are old, obsolete, and have needed to be redone from scratch for a long time.
-Alex
Updates:
I've added a nightly XML dump of the Wiki content using the Mediawiki export tool. It will be on our ftp site here: https://ftp.winehq.org/wine/
Well, that didn't take long. The site has been up for less than 24 hours and a flood of bots have registered accounts. I've implemented ReCaptcha on the create account page. Take that you bot scum you!
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